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I'd like to ask a follow up question if I may. Allow me to preface it by saying very clearly this isn't intended as an insult to you or anyone else personally. I'd like to follow up on this comment -
11 minutes ago, Dacy said:But here, I think your arguments, on the heels of seeing the CRs dissolved and the base dev retire, started to sound a lot like "the base community isn't important or even really active, and CRs were never needed anyway". If you were part of that community, you might start to feel a bit attacked, you see.
I'd like to know where I expressly said that bases and base building isn't important and that HC shouldn't care about it. I've never said that. I've said yes, it's a small community. I never said HC shouldn't care about it or ignore it. I just understand that it isn't a priority for them and that they should be the ones who decide what they want to work on in their spare time.
I'll also say that as a builder myself - and yes, I am a builder - I don't feel attacked in the least that the base CRs position got eliminated. No, I don't see that as a personal insult by anyone at HC, nor do I see it as anyone from HC ignoring builders and bases or not caring. As I've said many times here, I understand this is a passion project run by a group of volunteers in their spare time. I thank them for that effort and appreciate all the work they've put into this project and all the work they continue to do. I may not agree with everything they do or everything they say, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate their hard work.
I'd also like clarification as to what exactly constitutes being a "member of the community"? I've built bases, included them in your directory, posted photos of them and such in threads on the forums here and shared the code with others for them to use and enjoy at their leisure. I've spent a lot of time visiting bases others have built and enjoying exploring them. I'm working on several different base projects right now. Is that not good enough? If not, please let me know what the requirements are.
Anyway, point taken. I'll steer clear of any of your posts from here on out. It seems like that's for the best. Good day to you. I wish you the best.
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13 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:
I think it's more a matter of "there's a time and a place for everything."
For example: when a coworker sends out an email to everyone that says "Friday will be my last day at work. The company is downsizing and has eliminated my position." That's really not the best time/place to respond with "Oh good. Nothing against you, but I don't think that your position was really necessary and I'm glad the company has eliminated that position." Do you see where that just might be a social faux pas?
And that's basically what you, and others, did. I'm sure that's not what you intended, but that's how it came across.
Thank your for clarifying. I can see how it might be taken that way. With that said, I tried several times to clarify my position, which I think you and everyone else knows already, and I think you know this isn't what I was suggesting. You'll note that I didn't say I was "glad" about any one person losing a position. I can't help it if that's how people felt or how they interpreted what I said, but that's more on them than it is on me. I think I've apologized and clarified my thoughts enough times to get that message across.
But just in case that isn't clear, I'm sorry that people lost a title that meant something to them. I'm sorry people feel bad about it. All I'm suggesting is titles don't change who they are or what they can do or the positive impact they can have on the community. And as has been said already, the actions speak far louder than the titles ever will.
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Ok so just for my future reference, I'd like to understand something - are we not allowed to offer differing opinions or perspectives on topics related to bases any longer? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you and I very well could be, and if that's the case I apologize. It seems to me that's the message we're being sent.
22 minutes ago, Dacy said:First I was informing people of the changes, and then, on a related note, I was proposing that some changes to how homecoming operates might be beneficial to the organization. The fact that this became about your questions and CRs, and whether or not blue titles are needed, and then further, into arguments about the qualities of bases, and the interest or lack thereof in the community for building and contests, is a testament to how your arguments changed the topic.
To be crystal clear, I was not arguing. I was never arguing with you or anyone else. I was not personally insulting you or attacking you at any time. I was only asking questions and offering another perspective on the very thoughts and ideas for changes you were sharing. I provided examples to back up what I was suggesting. Are we no longer allowed to do that here? Maybe I'm wrong, but I had thought that's what discussion forums are for.
We may not agree on the need for PR people or CRs or whatever you want to call the role. At least to me, the actions of others devoting their free time toward organizing events and helping other players out is what matters.
Again, apologies if you feel like you've been insulted, attacked or berated in some way. That certainly wasn't the intent.
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Right so, just to be perfectly clear, I am not attacking anyone nor is it my intent to insult anyone. I have a lot of respect for other players who dedicate their free time toward organizing events and doing things for other players. I've mentioned several of them by name here and thanked them for their generous help. I've also personally thanked @Dacy several times in this thread for all the effort put into doing things for the base community.
As far as questioning numbers, I'm sorry but that's just what I do. Please don't take it personally, it's nothing against you personally. I don't take anyone at their word and I was raised to always get all the facts. It's nothing against you personally and I'm not saying you're lying or that you're a liar or anything the sort. A very wise man once said "I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers I can't question." I'm being honest here, but this kind of response from you is just a clear indication of what I said earlier in the thread in that anything that gets questioned gets labelled as "toxic" or "trolling" or "being argumentative." Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how it appears to me anyway.
I can't help if it you see my disagreement over the need for CRs as a personal insult or an attack. That certainly isn't the case. I don't have "disdain" for the role, nor do I feel like you or anyone aren't worthy of it. I just don't see the role as necessary, sorry. I also don't see how not having a blue title anymore prevents you from continuing to be the kind, helpful person you have been in being generous with your time in working with and helping others.
I hope you do get your title back. It seems like it's very important to you, so best of luck in that pursuit. I don't think you need it to do what you do, but go for it if that's what you want and will make you happy.
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18 hours ago, Dacy said:
So if you think there is a "lack of interest" in bases, quite the opposite. Building, because prestige is gone now, has exploded. We have well over 33,000 bases that have been created on Everlasting alone. And how many players, do you think? Yeah. Clearly no interest in bases there. Excelsior has fewer, but still over 30,000.
I agree that there's way more bases now than before because prestige was eliminated and removing that silly system was a good thing. I'd caution against reporting numbers like this though without context. It's like the HC folks giving everyone a false sense of hope in telling people that's there's over 2 million "inactive" names that are sitting there unplayed. A LOT of people are thinking that's an absolute guarantee the name they want is going to get freed up when the name release finally goes live. That's not a good thing to be putting out there in my opinion and it's going to lead to a whole lot of disappointment when a name someone is after isn't released.
Anyway, 33,000 bases might seem like a lot, but there are important qualifying questions about that number. Some examples -
- Over what time frame have these been built and are the accounts of the builders still active?
- How many of these bases have actual passcodes that can be used by the public at large?
- How many individual players (not accounts) does that number represent in terms of builders? Just about every single person I know here has multiple accounts.
- How many of those bases are something more than experiments to try different things to be used in "real" bases? As an example, I have "test" bases I use on alt accounts to try out different things and then incorporate those items/techniques into the base I'm actually working on.
- How many of these bases are what would be generally be accepted as "contest ready"?
- How many of these bases aren't just one room storage bins cobbled together for someone's alts?
- How many of those bases were built by one person who built it for another person?
Again, removing prestige is a great thing and I agree there's more people messing with bases now than there were on live. That's a good thing. Whether or not they're a base that people would consider entering into a contest is another story. If there's over 33,000 bases on Everlasting alone and it's been difficult to find people to enter a contest, that's telling to me as to what people are using bases for and how small the building community is in relation to the overall player base.
I'm not questioning the overall numbers nor am I saying the sheer number of them means people aren't using the editor and building. Just saying that it's important to have all the context.
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12 hours ago, Dacy said:
K, well, I still don't think you fully understand what it is I'm trying to say, and yes, I have been in leadership, and yes, I know you can't please everyone, and if I didn't know that before, I CERTAINLY know that after the contest we held.
Dacy, I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying just fine. I just don't agree that CRs are a necessity or that they'd have as large an impact as you think they would, if any at all. That doesn't mean I'm right and you're wrong or you're right and I'm wrong. It's only a simple difference of opinion and two people having a discussion. CRs collating player feedback and suggestions to organize and feed to the HC people isn't going to make more people engaged in running events or make more people feel like they're being listened to by the HC folk. They're never going to please everyone, CRs or not.
I think it's you who has been missing what I have been saying. There's plenty of good and helpful and kind players out there who don't have any blue titles, aren't "official" in any way yet are having just as much, if not more of an impact on the community than CRs have. You just don't hear about them or they're basically on one server.
As far as player events, they're out there. Here's one group from Torch advertising server wide events to celebrate their anniversary.
Here's another one from the leader of the weekly Saturday Night Synapse League on Torch which is a hugely successful player run and player organized event.
Here's a shout out to a fellow base builder from another player
I too gave a couple people a shout out in the threads I posted who helped me out with building, especially @ShardWarrior who probably spent more than 40 hours helping me out with building stuff instead of playing their characters. I'm being very honest here in saying that getting that level of help and devotion of time from another player does way more for me personally and my sense of the community than any server wide events ever will. This is just one example from me and a few examples I found in 2 minutes of searching the forums. There's a whole lot of very kind, very helpful people here doing all kinds of things in their free time to help make the game more fun for others. You just don't hear about them.
My point is that none of the people doing this stuff have blue titles and they don't need them. These are successful player run events that get a lot of participation and are fostering a great sense of pride in the community.
12 hours ago, Dacy said:I would rather proactively work to make things as good as possible and not just leave it as "working for now", but we'll just agree to disagree on that one.
That's fair and I would hope you'd understand that to some, the current state of things is good enough for them. Anything new that comes along is icing on the cake. What you consider "good as possible" is going to differ wildly than someone else. Ultimately, it's up to the HC people to decide what's best for them to do in their spare time and the direction they want to take the game.
12 hours ago, Dacy said:I didn't say it before, but thank you for your support. I agree, I don't need a blue title, but not having it does take some of the pressure off to do quite so much. I have to hope you are right, that others, who also do not need blue titles, will step up and do more event organization, especially ones that include other servers than their own.
You're welcome. As for whether or not other players will run events, see above.
12 hours ago, Dacy said:And a last note: no one ever claimed this was even a goal. Collating and keeping track of and communicating player wants is not at all the same thing as that being a way to make sure all those wants are executed. Player wants are endless. Some are impossible. Some are repeating what others have already said. What CRs were supposed to help with, and indeed, did and we continue to try to do this, is help present, but more importantly, narrow down the list to what's the most desired or beneficial (as in, useful to the most people). This is a time and labor saver, but it never was intended to make all the wants into reality.
I wasn't suggesting that having CRs would make all requests from players happen. Apologies if that wasn't clear. I was only suggesting that CRs would be getting bogged down with requests instead of HC folk. It's just shifting the work from one person to the next and it would still mean some requests may get worked on and others wouldn't. There would still be those who would be happy with changes and others who wouldn't be. Again, there's no pleasing everyone.
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23 minutes ago, Dacy said:
if they are off in their own bubble, they will work on what they want to do, which may or may not be something well received by the community. Maybe that's okay with you, but again, games survive by being popular with their player base.
The HC folks have always been working on and from what I can see will always continue to work on things they want to work on. I've also seen there's a very vocal and loyal group of people who are going to lap up every single change made no matter what it is and will continue to support the game and HC for as long as they're alive. It's honestly like watching a cult sometimes lol. I don't mean that as an insult to anyone. HC is never going to please everyone, nor should they try to IMO. As I said before, this isn't a commercial venture. There's no shareholders to worry about hitting revenue numbers for. It's a passion project for a group of volunteers.
29 minutes ago, Dacy said:My point is, culture and the community environment go a long way towards fostering that, and we have, but toxicity seeps in and destroys that.
So what constitutes "toxicity" exactly? Who gets to decide what is or isn't "toxic"? From what I've witnessed here, anything in the slightest that goes against a change being implemented or that questions a decision made by the HC team is labelled "toxic" or "trolling", regardless of how well thought out and respectfully presented. I could go on and on and on and on and on and on with specific examples of this, but there's no point in rehashing any of it. It is what it is and I don't see PR people or CRs changing that ever. Nor do I think even with CRs or PR people or whatever the HC staff will be able to keep up with player demands.
37 minutes ago, Dacy said:As you also demonstrated, there is a disconnect between the leadership here and the community. For you this means, hey, we don't need them, we're doing fine on our own.
That's always the case. I don't know if you've ever been in a leadership or command position of any kind, and if not, you'll quickly learn that you can't please everyone. The HC folk do what they want and work on what they want and listen to a very small subset of players in their inner circle. That's fine by me, I can't change it. I've complained about it before and probably will again at some point in the future, but I also understand it's not going to change nor do I expect it to. Again, this server is a passion project for a group of volunteers. If it were me running it, I'd probably be doing the same thing they are. I don't mean that as an insult to any of them at all. I understand we're all here at their pleasure and they can cut any single one of us off at any time if they want to. It's their house, we're just guests. If anyone feels like they're being marginalized or ignored or don't like the direction this server is going in, there's other options out there to try. Some of the other servers have done some very cool things that are far and away better than anything implemented here as of yet. Again, not an insult to any HC people.
44 minutes ago, Dacy said:Ever try and get someone to volunteer to lead a large activity?
Yup. Every single day in my professional life.
45 minutes ago, Dacy said:So, sorry you can't see who we were or why, but I still think it's a good position to have for the game, for the community, and for the devs.
I know who you all were just fine and thanked you for all your efforts. I understand and appreciate how much work it is to set up events and to get people involved. It's no small feat. All I'm saying is you don't need a blue title for any of that.
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13 minutes ago, BlackHearted said:
if you do not see how adding something that's acctually wanted in the game taking over two years to be heard about b/c there is no true lane of communication then there's no need in us to continue discussing things b/c you're missing my point... there is NO ACTUAL way to communicate with the devs... you have to jump up and down and wave your hands until you are noticed..... if you do not see how that is problematic that's fine........ a lot of us however see that as being an issue while "trash pile 38" is added and things like "hey we'd like an alphabet" takes over 3 years to be heard, and thusly want there to be an actual path of communication to the devs, not a never heard and impossible to wade through bog of ideas on a foum somewhere no one reads b/c it's bogged down with random off topic comments about peoples personal opinions about other ppls posts instead of addressing the actual OP.. .like what you've done here waisting my time and anyone elses who reads this thread.
For starters, whether an item is "actually wanted" is highly dependent on the individual making the request. As for the rest, well from what I can see, it isn't true at all that there's no line of communication with the HC folks. They're asking for player feedback on changes all the time in the various focused feedback threads. I don't personally use Discord, but from what I understand they listen to and gather player suggestions there too. What players they listen to most is another discussion entirely.
I understood what you wrote just fine. I'll reiterate that I don't see adding yet another bathroom sign to the editor is all that important or critically needed by any stretch. I get that it's important to you though. Your post is also making my point about CRs getting bogged down by requests for nice to haves that are personal pet projects for someone. All your doing is making another avenue for ideas to get lost and/or ignored. What happens when the HC people don't implement your idea for a bathroom sign? Start pestering the CR every 5 minutes about whether the HC people heard the idea? It's proving my earlier point that some people can't manage their own expectations and making demands of what a volunteer group should be working on in their free time. CRs won't change that.
As far as forum threads being "bogged down with random off topic comments about peoples personal opinions", well you're doing that too. In your personal opinion, another bathroom sign is a must have. To others, it's not even on the bottom of the list nor should it be. The forums are a place for discussion and for people to share ideas.
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10 minutes ago, BlackHearted said:
It would be really nice to see an actually thought out process of having CRs to communicate with the developers... as someone who's succesfully campained multiple times to get base items and game features added, it's a painfully mind numbing process to go back to the devs over and over and over re-wording the same concept until it is finally communicated properly.. i spent like 2 years begging to get gender neutral bathroom signs added to the bases....... b/c for obvious reasons those are desirable..... and it was turned into a circus and openly mocked for months and months until finally one day i just happened to be able to get the attention of 3 of the right ppl at the same time and then magically it was added into the game an hour later... b/c there is no real system for getting things done.. even if you know the people involved and have a report with them...... good luck getting even the most basic of things accomplished.. Some kinda way to actually get ideas into the hands of the right ppl without it being an act of congress + a three rings circus of forum communications would be great, be that CRs or something else.
So I'm not going to lie, but I don't see what you asked for taking a long time being a huge issue. I'm not trying to insult you as it was something that was clearly important to you, but I personally don't see adding that item into bases as being "mission critical" by any stretch. It's also a very good example of how the CRs would get bogged down by tons of requests for personal stuff that isn't really needed or helpful to everyone or the stability of the code. Adding a bathroom sign doesn't do anything to address things like helping to reduce item counts in bases. Changes that'll reduce item counts will lead to less memory and storage and lagging in bases and that's good for everyone, not the one or two people who want a specific sign. I'm sure everyone who builds a base has a list twice as long as their arm for items they'd personally like added. I've made a few suggestions on that front too, but I can admit they're more "pet project" things that are nice to haves for me and I'd much rather see more comprehensive changes made that increase stability of the code and reduce the lagginess in the editor.
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1 hour ago, Dacy said:
Public relations is not about just promotion of the game to the press. This wouldn’t be about promoting the game although, the game only exists because there’s a Community. If people leave and no one comes to replace them, it will die. So, despite the fact it’s not a money making venture, they still need a certain amount of promotion to keep the game going at this level. They also need donations to keep the servers running. People are not going to play or donate if they don’t feel good about the game.
That's fair and I see this mentioned by a lot of people. The games got a very healthy playerbase from what I can see and there's literal tons of veterans playing who've been around since the game went live 20 years ago. They don't appear to be leaving anytime soon and from what we're told, there are new players coming in every day. Donations are filled in literal minutes every month, so I don't see that as being a problem either. The game and the loyal players don't look to be going anywhere anytime in the foreseeable future. I'd be more concerned about the HC folk getting burned out and not wanting to do it anymore than I would about a dwindling player base.
1 hour ago, Dacy said:This is why I’m saying that people who have skills with people are needed.
I don't know that'll really make any difference to be honest. We already have a lot of great, very kind people here with excellent people skills who don't have blue titles and aren't affiliated with HC. I've had a couple of really kind players devote way too much of their free time helping me out with building stuff. I don't think HC needs that kind of role when the players themselves can do it just fine and don't have to worry about whether or not they're following proper protocol.
1 hour ago, Dacy said:I’ve heard you complaining lots about the editor.
haha I'm not the only one! 🤣 It's all good though. The editor is what it is.
I think it's important to say that I personally don't feel like I'm being marginalized if changes I'd like to see to the editor don't get addressed and stuff I'd like to see added into it doesn't happen. I understand the HC folk are volunteers and they're doing this in their precious spare time for free. I think more people need to understand that IMO. If they see something I suggest and want to act on it, great. If not, oh well. Of course I'll try to advocate for changes I'd like to see, but in the end, I get it that this is a volunteer group doing this in their spare time. Maybe more people who are feeling that they're being marginalized need to manage their expectations better. Others might feel differently and feel like they're being ignored. That's a personal thing though.
1 hour ago, Dacy said:I know not all people want contests, and that’s why we started things like the base crawls. Which you enjoy, and you would not have without the CRs.
I'm not sure I understand why we couldn't have base crawls without CRs? There's all kinds of player run events going on every day. Just last weekend I brought a Kronos Titan to the weekly Saturday Night Synapse league which is a hugely successful and ongoing player run and player managed event on Torch. I'm not sure why base crawls would be any different?
Back in the live days, on Triumph there used to be Supergroup Faires where SGs would recruit and host all sorts of contests and such. That was all player run too. That kind of stuff happens here, like nightly Hami raids and MSRs. It just takes interested and motivated people who want to make that stuff happen to do it.
This is an interesting topic and discussion to be sure. I respect your perspective on it.
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I was bummed to read about this, but given what I've witnessed firsthand from some of the HC folk, I can't say I'm at all surprised and to be honest, you're better off. That's all I'll say there and leave it at that.
I think people are forgetting that HC is not a commercial for profit venture and it's never going to be one. They don't need "PR" people for HC. It's just making more work for a volunteer staff. IMO they should continue to focus their limited time in developing the game the way they see fit and doing what's fun for them. Having to come up with all kinds of training materials, new positions that need to be monitored and such is another step toward making their limited volunteer time into a full time job, which I don't think is the goal.
Somebody said in base chat the other night that we really don't need CRs at all. I agree to be honest. Only speaking for myself, gold titles and merit rewards and such don't mean anything for me. I really like the whole base crawl more than a contest, especially since it's a small enough community that less than a handful of people are ever going to get a real shot at winning top prizes in a contest anyway. To be honest, it's more special I think when it's run by the community instead of having any HC involvement. We just don't need it IMO. At least for me, sharing a creation with the community or being able to visit other peoples bases is the real reward.
Anyway, that's my 2 inf. Thanks for all your continued efforts. Other than not having a blue title anymore, I honestly don't see the difference.
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23 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said:
Everyone on the retail forums knew who these people were. So they were famous, in the City of Heroes community.
Sorry mate, but this isn't true. I played the game and visited the retail forums frequently back during the live days and I don't recognize any of those names. Sorry if I don't remember your friends though. Does that mean I'm not part of the community then?
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That base is truly amazing @ShardWarrior! I'm honestly blown away by this one. It has to be seen to be believed. I'm really impressed with the level of effort that must have went into building something of this scope. I think the engineering section is my favorite. Reminds me of the engine room from Galaxy Quest! But I love the bridge and command center too. This base really deserves a showcase/walkthrough tour video from @Dacy. I also just love the thought you put into the story behind these bases and the supergroups.
Wanted to ask ...
21 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:Not only are they keeping the peace ... they are looking for something.
What exactly are they looking for?
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5 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:
You're not being insulting, you're just not thinking. Just because you don't know who someone is doesn't mean they're not famous. Do you know who Shah Rukh Khan is? No? Well all 1.4 BILLION people in India know who he is. Therefore he's famous.
Just being honest here, there's a real big difference between someone known by a billion people and a small handful of folks known by a small handful of other folks from the forums of a video game.
5 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:Of course you've never heard of them, you didn't spend much, if any, time on the retail forums. Just because you haven't heard of people that were part of a community that you were never involved in doesn't mean they weren't famous in that community. If you ask anyone who spent a lot of time on the retail forums they'll remember at least some of these people as these people were famous in the City of Heroes community.
Just so I understand, if we've never heard of any of those people you mentioned, we're not part of the community? I don't think that's what you're saying or what you're intending, but wanted to ask because that's certainly what it sounds like. If it is what you're saying, well then you're just wrong. We're all part of this community whether we've heard of these other players or not.
I'm sure there's lots of people that remember those names from back in the day and that they're famous to them. I don't think that automatically means they're considered famous by everyone, nor do I think not knowing who they were/are means you aren't part of the game community.
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WOW! I am blown away by this base. These pics definitely don't do it justice. It has to be see to be experienced. Thank you @ShardWarrior! You are most definitely the GOAT! 😁
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20 hours ago, Etched said:
Secondly, I'm not sure where settin complex pieces come from what I said? Since all I said was "I can set an object in 3 seconds". To set an object in 3 seconds, that's it. I didn't say complex maneuvering. Just to place an item.
But you assumed that I meant something I never once said because after all, all I said was to set an item in 3 seconds.
I didn't assume anything, and I think you know that.
20 hours ago, Etched said:Really? You should take a stroll through some of my bases as well because you are preaching to the choir. I haven't done a simple base since Club7, which was the only SG that wanted an interior base.
Anyhow, always fun to have a chat with you Zacking. im sure ill say something that will offend you in a few days.
You haven't offended me. If you want to keep looking down your nose at others, go right ahead. You keep doing you. I don't need to stroll through your bases at all, nor do I want to. I'm sure they're ok as is and I'm sure there's much, much better ones out there.
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On 4/19/2024 at 6:52 PM, PeregrineFalcon said:
Translation: I deliberately logged on to Homecoming, made a ton of characters with all of the famous names that I could remember from the live servers (or possibly looked at a copy of the old forums in case memory wasn't enough), and then flew one of the characters around Atlas Park while saying to myself "ha, ha, I got your name".
So debate all you want about whether or when or which level, but understand that at least some of the people who are against this are against it because they are deliberately hoarding names and they don't want you to have them, and this has been confirmed by a GM.
Just being honest, but I read that post you quoted differently. And unless that GM spoke in person to the player in question and that player admitted they "stole" names just for the sake of being a prick, you can't say your interpretation is correct. I admit I don't know much about that person in particular either. If they did do this out of spite or malice or just to be a jerk, then yeah, they're a jerk. I don't think they should be forced to give up the names for that though. If they're still active, they can be contacted and negotiated with to release a name.
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So long as they made it clear in advance this is what they're doing, I don't see a problem with it. Like you said, no one is holding a gun to your head to join the team.
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On 4/12/2024 at 3:16 PM, Dacy said:
I think it's more likely that the storage system would get redesigned, because I know they don't like it as it stands, but I also know it's a very tricky and difficult thing to change. So I'm not holding my breath in anticipation, because I have no idea if it ever will be redone.
I can't imagine it's that difficult to copy/paste the item code for a storage rack and have it reference a smaller, already existing item like a crate or pallet or box. I say that without no knowledge of the internal coding of the game, just saying it doesn't seem that impossible to do.
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2 hours ago, Etched said:
Because you can't do it therefore no one else should be able to do it? That is extremely closed minded. I'm sure Jordan or LeBron was told they can't score a ton of points within a game and they proved people wrong.
This is very arrogant and just as close minded. You may well be efficient and fast with the editor, that in no way means everyone else will be regardless of how much time they spend editing. Not everyone is at the same skill level. Jordan knew others weren't at the same skill level as him, but he didn't look down his nose at them either.
The base editor isn't "easy" or "effortless" or whatever other word you want to use to describe it when it comes to building above the base in rooms with thousands upon thousands of items. As someone said in the base building chat the other night, the editor simply wasn't designed to work in the way it is now, and anyone trying to claim otherwise is trying to sell you something it isn't. The editor works very well and is easier to use if you stick within the confines of the interior base rooms. That's not hard to learn how to do. Fabricating complex structures, items and environments is a whole lot more tedious work than just drag and dropping an existing item into a room.
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The Current Room items list very desperately needs to have search functionality added to it. Finding one single item in a list of potentially thousands that can be in a room is an extremely tedious and painful process to the point of it being unusable.
Nice to haves would be smaller functional items or single items that can hold the total number of salvage items or teleport points.
Cimeroran NPCs and Store/Trainer NPCs for bases would be great too
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On 4/5/2024 at 8:43 PM, Daniel_R said:
I've been aiming for an Avengers Mansion-style feel - let me know what you think. Come see for yourself at JUSTICE-18641.
Very cool!
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1 minute ago, Dacy said:
I said (elsewhere) there are very few. This one just showed up since last patch.
Yes, I know. I was joking, hence the LOL emoji. 🤣
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21 hours ago, warnold7 said:
To Boldly Go
TNG-25980
Excelsior
*Disclaimer - Base is still under construction but has a ton of content created. Already over 16k items*
Just wanted to say, after visiting this base, I've started watching all of the Star Trek series again. 😁
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Name Purge
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I'm not sure that you'd need to wipe the database to do this? I get that the code is whacky, but this doesn't sound right. I don't think I've ever come across a situation where I had to wipe out all the data in a database to start over from scratch with something. I'm not a professional DBA, but I do know a thing or two about about SQL and databases. There's no way to run an update statement to prepend the global@ to the beginning of character names?
You wouldn't be in the chat, unless you specifically wanted to see global names. In chat, your name would still be Bionic Flea. That's how it works in CO and STO. You wouldn't see the global in the name floating above your character either.