awesome ty, i will gladly try it, like i said im always interested in trying new builds, the crazier the better lol, as it stands i only have 3 lvl 50s that ive kept, and they are brigg's rad/fire brutes for ae farming, if it gives you any ideas, so far my favorite builds have been fire/kin and Broadsword/Shield scrapper from when CoH first started when ncsoft launched it