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As pointed out by Stormwalker, most other sets don't have a 20% haste. So theoretically won't your normal abilities be taking 20% more endurance over time when you activate them? (Not the Toggles, obviously.) So yes, it would still be nice to have endurance recovery of some kind.

With that said though.. it would be nice, at least for me to have something additional built in to mitigate it a bit more. Especially with the main suggestion of this thread being the Speedster Power Set, which would likely have a number of quick hitting attacks. Especially when paired with Super Reflexes. You may be able to build around it for the most part but that doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist. The relative danger of allowing a Super Reflexes character to have a bit more recovery is also fairly low. It's not like I'm asking to increase the amount of defenses they get, give them immunities to anything, or to give them some way to gain additional damage modifiers. Especially if as claimed by most people, they don't run into endurance issues for the most part. Because for those people, functionally.. Nothing would change at all.

Technically, this set already has a Recovery buff in it. It's just only available to Sentinels. And it doesn't seem to break anything from the people I've spoken to about it.

Did you read my last reply to this thread..? Was acknowledging that SR is in a fairly good place and the one thing that is still hurting me is the lack of a Recovery passive in it. So that's the only thing I'm really pushing for at this point. I'd love to see a little bit of a consolidation of skills.. so there aren't so many separate active/passive powers just for different defense types, but I acknowledge that people don't want to mess with it. That's just a personal gripe of mine. The only thing I'm asking for on SR at this point is a Recovery effect somewhere. With that said though, I do thank you for your reply and your feedback.

Honestly after working with my Scrapper and Brute on the Super Reflexes side of things.. I still think one of the things that I really could say I want is a Recovery Bonus somewhere in the tree. Wherever it makes sense to put. It would just be super nice to have and help me mitigate quite a lot of the issues I'm having with my energy. Outside of that it performs mostly alright. Though I definitely wouldn't mind some additional consolidation in the powers so you didn't have to have a passive and active for each defense... But that's just a personal gripe. At this point, I just really want that Recovery bonus tacked on somewhere. 😅 As for the "Speedster" side of things, still putting it out there that I'd love a thematic quick/fast attacking character that bounces all over the place throwing flurries of punches at their enemies and doing "rush" attacks to speed up to a target and do some damage. Especially since there aren't really many "thematic" Speedster sets out there. It's mostly just "Guy with Super Reflexes that moves fast.. and does another thing."

Sentinel also gets Enduring added to their power set for Super Reflexes.. and people aren't crying about that being overpowered. That gives Endurance Recovery and Damage Resistance to all damage except for Toxic. I really don't get the doom and gloom that people seem to give any posts that touch on improvements to existing power sets..

Well... no duh? That's why I said it would be a nice QoL for something like that to be automatic?

On the topic of super speed and other travel powers.. Would love for the endurance cost to be suspended or lowered significantly while they're suppressed in combat as well. Would be a nice QoL at least. Lol

TBH that would also be awesome.

WP has 40% Recovery Bonuses, as does Regeneration. It easily offsets and overcomes the Endurance deficit of the power set. Shield Defense only has 3 Toggles, as far as I'm aware... But they do have similar costs to SR. The main difference is that it has many more defensive layers for mitigation. Reducing Enemy Damage, Increasing Defense, Damage Resistance, Increasing Health, and it scales pretty well with additional allies and foes. Willpower is by far one of the most comfortable power sets for defense. Radiation does have 4 Toggles... but it's also closer to Fire Defense in terms that it's an offensive power set with a damage aura. It's also got pretty solid damage resistance and health regeneration as well as a pretty decent steroid. Stone Armor has always been pretty endurance heavy, but is also a very strong defensive power set. You have crowd control and damage with Mud Pots that can be pretty useful. You've got defense, damage resist layers, and with Rooted you can get a decent chunk of regen and additional bonuses.. Though, I'll definitely agree with some QoL being given to Stone Armor in terms of usability. Super Reflexes pretty much just has... Defense. Not that it's a bad thing. I'd just argue that it would also be nice for it to have some recovery bonuses, and for the defense bonuses to be consolidated a bit so you're not having to take 3 passive powers and 3 toggles just to make sure each of the different defenses are covered. I'm not saying that the numbers aren't good where they are in terms of defense. I'm not even asking for higher defense values. I'm asking for recovery bonuses to be added to the set and for some consolidation. Either having both the Active/Passive powers merged so that you have one for Melee, one for Ranged, and one for AoE... or Merging the Passive powers into one so you have a single passive power and 3 toggles for each of the different types. I'm ambivalent to what else makes it into the power set to fill in the missing spots once the consolidation is done.. I just made a couple suggestions of what might be nice to see. I'm totally open to feedback of different options if people can come up with other nice things to add that aren't overpowering and are thematic to the power set.

My biggest issues with SR are the endurance costs for running 3 high cost toggles, the lack of endurance recovery and endurance drain resist, and the fact that the defense bonuses are split between 6 different powers. At least, that has been consistent on every SR character that I've played. For the most part, my go to defensive sets these days are Willpower, Regen, Bio Armor, and Shield. All for different reasons.

I'm totally willing to keep Practiced Brawler as is, or making a portion of it passive while the rest of it is either activatable or toggle. As for the Defense Values, I'm not a fan of reducing those values at all. Is there a specific power that was mentioned that you were concerned about? Or a combination of them? I'd love to know more about what you're saying.

Thank you, corrected.

With that out of the way, I'm totally open for feedback on this as long as it's constructive with the goal of actually seeing something similar to this come into the game. There are no hard numbers or anything in my suggestion as that would be left up to the balancing team to make it work properly. Some obvious concerns that I have for making Super Reflexes viable at the high end is that the current "meta" for defenses is to stack different types of defenses to layer them while having a fairly high damage resistance value where possible. Those layers including: Defense, Damage Resist, and Regeneration as primary mitigation layers.. With secondary layers being debuffing or crowd controlling enemies either reducing their accuracy or damage or simply removing them from the fight temporarily. Super Reflexes does have an issue on the high end with it being a "one trick pony" in that it has a very high amount of Defense value but almost nothing in terms of the other mitigation layers. The "Lucky Dodge" power that was suggested was something to somewhat mitigate that by adding something along the lines of a pseudo "glancing blow" system. This can take form in several different ways, whether it builds up stacks of "damage resistance" over time that are all used to soak damage when they do get hit.. Or it could be a damage resistance power that gains strength the more defense they have compared to their targets. Alternatively it could gain strength based on how full the endurance of the character is at that given time. An alternative to a Damage Resistance power would be some way to allow for high defense values to actually work reliably against high end enemies. I know that normally Villains and other big boss enemies tend to bypass a large portion of defense values to hit straight at the damage resistance values. That's one thing I'm trying to solve for. Some other things worth mentioning for the Super Reflex abilities is that there was a major theme for me there of reducing endurance costs across the board and even giving them an Endurance Recovery passive and resistances to Endurance Drain. The primary reason for this is that almost every Super Speed / Super Reflexes character is seen to have near inexhaustible energy, at least when it comes to dodging. As it is right now SR is one of the most expensive defensive power sets in terms of Endurance Costs and really fights against that dynamic. I do hope that these changes help address that!

Hello World! I just wanted to preface this post with a couple key facts about myself and my goals with this suggestion. Firstly, I am a Superhero/Supervillain lover and have been reading comics the majority of my life. Speedsters have always held a place at the top of the list for my favorite character archetype. With that said, I completely understand that doing "proper justice" to a speedster is neigh impossible in any multiplayer video game and still difficult in a single player game, but my goal isn't to aim for full realism or even to represent a majority of what they're capable of in the comics other media. My goal in its simplest terms is for you to FEEL like you're playing a character based around speed and reflexes. In this post I have several suggestions but I want to preface it with the fact that I am open to discussions on things that could and should be changed with it in order to bring it more in line with what is expected for a character. My goals here are as follows: Quick Power Activations. Quick Power Recharges. (Mostly) Reliable Defenses based primarily around dodging attacks. Faster than normal Movement in Combat. Better than normal recovery of Endurance. Competitive with other "End Game Meta Builds" for taking on high end content. Provided it is properly geared. Super Reflexes Level 1/Level 1: Agile (Passive Elements from Agile, Dodge, and Lucky.) Level 1/Level 2: Focused Fighting (Reduced End Cost.) Level 2/Level 4: Focused Senses (Reduced End Cost.) Level 6/Level 10: Focused Evasion (Reduced End Cost.) Level 8/Level 16: Practiced Brawler (No Changes.) Level 12/Level 20: Quick Metabolism (Passive Recovery Bonus and Resistance to End Drain.) Level 18/Level 24: Quickness (Increased Movement Speed bonus.) Level 22/Level 28: Lucky Dodge (New Passive. Builds stacks of Damage Resistance up to a total of 10 stacks. All stacks are removed when hit.) Level 26/Level 30: Elude (Remove Endurance Crash, but make it so that the power is no longer modified by recharge speed modifiers.) Super Speed Fighting Level 1/Level 1: Quick Strike (Very fast animation punch that does okay damage, activates very quickly and has a very fast recharge. Can disorient foes.) Level 1/Level 2: Quick One-Two (Sped up One-Two Punch that does solid damage, is activated quickly, and has a fast recharge. Can disorient foes.) Level 2/Level 4: Quick Flurry (Sped up Flurry attack that hits a cone of enemies in front of the player. Can disorient foes. Moderate Recharge.) Level 6/Level 10: Build Momentum (Self +To-Hit and +Damage, either instant execution or very quick animation speed.) Level 8/Level 16: Blinding Speed (Quick attack that does a small amount of damage but increases self defense rating to melee and ranged. Can stack.) Level 12/Level 20: Mach Speed (Dash to a target within a certain range and strike it for high damage and a knockdown. Alternatively, lower the damage but make it have a faster recharge.) Level 18/Level 24: Flurry of Blows (PBAoE Melee Attack, Can disorient foes.) Level 22/Level 28: Cyclone (Toggle: High End Cost. PBAoE Damage, Knockdown Foes, Increased Defense while toggled.) Level 26/Level 30: Infinite Mass Punch / Light Speed Punch (Whirlwind around the targets for a short time before charging in and unleashing an extreme damage punch that knocks down the enemy and reduces their damage resistance.) Super Speed Tertiary Pool Finally, I also suggest an increase to the speed bonuses of the Super Speed power. As it is right now it's nowhere near the premier travel power even with all of its limitations. Teleportation is faster and more accessible and Flight is extremely versatile and almost as fast. Thank you for your time!