Kakuyon

I will agree to disagree, I will agree that you have a much larger understanding of the games mechanics and features then me and you have been very helpful between the discussions, but I will still disagree about the xp toggling, it just feels like an extra step BUT I will admit... it is at least something for players to use, It coulda not been there and players would've been unable to do a lot of what is possible now, so I know it has it's uses and was a solution for the time, and I apologize in my assumption as well when I called you that, I didn't mean to retaliate aggressively with that comment, I was a bit hot headed and just assumed you might have been like those that don't really care about the... "Journey" but more the "results", that was my bad and I hope you will forgive that mistake, I don't have anything against those types of players either, we all play the game in our own ways. Also it happens more then Cleopatra's, it has happened in multiple missions where i just dinged 1 to much, the Dr. Arvin and I think in Imp it was... uhhhh a loyalist one I think, that was over 5 years ago tho, think responsibility, it was a different character then the one I was recently playing in any case. same thing with the other times it happened to me, the character i am currently having the issues with i was able to finish nova with xp off. As to answer what I actually quoted from you, I am level 15 so that might be what the issue is, I've never used the Pillar thing before and only recently learned of it because when I learned of Oroboros I tried to access it and was denied(Cuz I'm Praetorian and Oroboros is anti-nonrprimers, won't even let us vote or have jobs!) I then looked it up to find out about the pillar and all that, created a group simply so I can put one down, couldn't use it at first cuz I was level 14 lol, looked it up to learn you gotta be 15 to use it so then leveled up to use it, and well here we are, I didn't wanna level up more because I didn't want to get gated out of the next zones stories(not that 15 would do that but I wasn't sure if imp would continue at 15 or if I got kicked out so didn't wanna risk it) but if it is that his mission only appears on the list when I'm level 20 then that was EXTREMELY helpful and I thank you very much for that enlightenment, again I apologize for my assumptions but it was mostly due to lack of knowledge and my frustrations at the mechanics AND lack of my knowledge in them, I appreciate your feedback even if we disagree in some things but I will leave it at that, I hope you have a wonderful day... I got some stories to complete and leveling to do. Praetoria, We can't be trusted with secrets. (Update, turns out you don't need to be level 20, I just happened to check the Pillar at 17 and his mission popped up... can't confirm the exact level i had to be to get the mission to pop but i was able to complete it sooner then 20 but not at 15, currently working on the next warden step but wanted to let people know in case anybody ends up finding this and was curious)

Hi yea I'm that "Complaining" guy and that was my first post on the forum and you proved my point exactly, you didn't actually read what I said, you immediately jumped on defending your bias's... especially when I mentioned the experience issue, but it really doesn't matter, you said that the contact missions zones arn't scaled to your level, I learned something cool because of that so thank you, but I only thought that it scaled because I can ONLY do missions at my level and in the level enemies were always either same or a couple levels higher/lower then me and usually when I out level my contact but I'm in the middle of a mission it just cuts the mission line... like mongoose's on mercy island or tunnel rat when needing to be introduced to Arvin, thus why it felt like that.... but my point was it should scale to it... since each mission that makes you enter a building or cave or whatever is an instance zone, separate from the main map, and to remove the contacts level cap just so you can at least complete their mission line, but again... you didn't care to think of that especially since this is a "suggestion board" simply you said what it already is and denied my suggestion outright.... simply because I stated... once again "HAVING TO GIMP YOUR EXPERIENCE GAIN JUST TO PLAY MISSION TO MISSION IS A PUNISHMENT", You're somebody I guarantee that probably hops into xp farming groups and generally don't care about the stories or the lore of the game, which is fine I'm not judging you even if you arn't that person, everyone has different ways to play the game. And I'm not trying to deny your opinion if you feel it's not a punishment, it just feels like an unnecessary step that the player has to take if they want to enjoy the world they're exploring and story's their playing, it's not even for doing all of the missions... the OP is saying how even following ONE story line can end up with you out leveling the contact unable to complete the morality mission because of the restrictions, and I've had that happen to me before(Twice in Nova, once in Imperial, 3 times on mercy). and I agreed with their suggestion of even bumping as an option for players to at least finish one line of the story, again tho it doesn't seem like you cared what I said and immediately had to defend your bias. And to answer the last thing in the first post you quoted, That's exactly what I thought to try and do but his mission isn't appearing in the list on the stone because I wasn't able to "START" it... at least I think so... I have stars on all the other missions including imperial wardens ch 1 and 2 but 3 isn't there, even tho I have him in my contact list... I think I might have bugged it, which isn't the games fault but a personal one that I will figure it out. I mostly added that part because I was still pretty heated when it happened because I was literally looking up a fix or solution and was frustrated and happened to spot the OP's post and agreed with it and felt like suggestion other possibility's and venting my grievances in the situation. I'm gonna try to finish up the rest of imp and then level out of his contact range to maybe shift him to de-active and pray that works otherwise I don't think I can complete his mission arc and do wardens ch 3 or 4 cuz she isn't on the list either, but those are my own problems. Regardless whatever I say it doesn't exactly matter, it was simply a suggestion from my own "PERSONAL" experience dealing with it on multiple characters on multiple servers on MULTIPLE sides, on blue and red and gold, and it was just my opinion, I only recently came back after a 5 year hiatus and it was still like this back then to so I know it won't be changing anytime soon, Gold sider's getting called "complainers" is just the usual, especially by guys with "Rude" in the name.(tho just kidding about that last one I'm sure your a nice person just your view to the game is different from mine and my experiences, you did give a lot of good points and feedback, but it seemed pretty hostile like you were defending your life, it's just a suggestion to let players do more, and see more, that's all... saying it like that it sounds pretty greedy but i mean the first character I ever made in the OG game back when it was sub based was a Villain so yea I might be pretty greedy). Praetorian's are players too, that's all.

I think this would be a great idea but I still don't think it solves the overall problem that you lose contacts because you leveled up to much... it feels like a punishment for playing the game, contacts(Especially story arc's) shouldn't have level cut off's... i mean when you enter mission zones it scales to your level anyway(at least from my experience I think), I keep having this problem with all of my praetorian's but it honestly doesn't seem like anybody really cares, the advice I always get is just "shoulda turned your XP off" or "just go to Oroboros".... I mean yea I guess I could go to Oroboros but then I lose out on being a resistance or loyalist and can't go back... and more so the immersion of going through the story itself, and again and people always argue this it seems, but turning off your experience "Is a punishment"... I'm stopping myself from gaining new powers or increasing my slots simply just so I don't get kicked out of honestly one of my favorite zones, oh and the kicker of if you're trying to follow a path but get sidetracked because you wanna play double agent cuz you think it might be fun to only come back and find you locked yourself out of the path cuz the quest giver was removed because of what happened in the last story arc you sidetracked on without looking it up... that's really bitten me in the butt recently and I really don't wanna start it all over again since I spent two days gaining "no exp" just to follow the traitor stories and well... it didn't feel like I was having as much fun as when I was gaining new powers when I was leveling, Powers that would have helped in certain missions when they have a lot of strong enemies. I mostly played solo and now that contact's mission I was hoping to do isn't even showing up in the Pillar thingy(my attempts at a Praetorian solution since I refuse to leave praetoria just because I can't access Oroboros), tho I have never used the pillar before, I can see the missions I've completed, but not sure how to make him appear cuz he ain't in the world no more and I can't even start it(Dr . Steffard btw). It's not just Praetoria tho, Rouge isles and Paragon can be like that too... you're playing along and suddenly you're cut off halfway and told "move onto the next zone now champ, nothing else for ya here bucko" but... my badges? my enchantments and cool temp powers? my immersion and completionist self?!... it sucks. Bumping could be nice, or just getting rid of the level cap for contacts... not the level requirement, or even giving Praetorians access to Oroboros would be nice... but i know it's asking a lot of this beautiful but old game, the fact she's still kicking around is a miracle all on it's own, and to have a huge community it still has is saying what a mistake the original owners made when they first shut 'er down, I know I rambled a bit here, especially in an old post from June so not expecting any feedback, just agreeing something should be changed tho again know it's asking a lot. Praetorians are People/Robots/Aliens/Mutants/and so on too!