How do I Bonk properly?

[Redletter]

I really like the crab spider. It's disgustingly end hungry and god help me there's just not enough global recharge in the world. It is probably the most high-maintance toon I've ever played. I'd like to try the bane, since it seems more efficient, but... it's like. My brain is mush? And I can't think of how to build them or what attraction they ACTUALLY hold outside of my unfounded assumption about them being less thirsty for resources. Any help or guidance would be nice!

[KaizenSoze]

  On 1/7/2022 at 1:38 AM, Redletter said:

I really like the crab spider. It's disgustingly end hungry and god help me there's just not enough global recharge in the world. It is probably the most high-maintance toon I've ever played. I'd like to try the bane, since it seems more efficient, but... it's like. My brain is mush? And I can't think of how to build them or what attraction they ACTUALLY hold outside of my unfounded assumption about them being less thirsty for resources. Any help or guidance would be nice!

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If you want to steamroll most content you cannot beat a Crabbermind...

 

Having said that I don't enjoy playing them, too many things that need to be managed.

 

Banes are like defender/stalkers. Good AOE, good def buffing, decent -resists, good single target, plus you can sneak around like a stalker.

 

A great team asset, plus a good soloer. General not end hungry once built out. I can run barrier instead of ageless. Does not require massive recharge, but benefits well from it.

 

The downside is that they are good at many things, not oh my god good at anything.

 

And of course the ever annoying re-draw issues, which one day I hope the devs fix.

 

Here is an example build which is close to what I am running. Slotting varies because I am always tinkering.

 

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Wasteland Shadow Mixed: Level 50 Magic Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprSpdBit-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprSpdBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(7)
Level 1: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-Max HP%(11), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(13), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 4: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(21)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), GssSynFr--Build%(21)
Level 8: Hover -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(23), Rct-Def(23)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(25), LucoftheG-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 12: Venom Grenade -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(31), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(31)
Level 14: Pulverize -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(34)
Level 16: Poisonous Ray -- Apc-Dmg(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(34), ShlBrk-%Dam(36), GldJvl-Dam%(36), AchHee-ResDeb%(36), Apc-Dam%(37)
Level 18: Frag Grenade -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(37), OvrFrc-End/Rech(37), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(39), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(39), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39)
Level 20: Shatter -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Acc/Rchg(40), Hct-Dam%(42), TchofDth-Dam%(42)
Level 22: Wolf Spider Armor -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(42)
Level 24: Cloaking Device -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 28: Surveillance -- AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDmnofA-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(45)
Level 35: Tactical Training: Leadership -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 38: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-Psi/Status(46), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(46), Ags-ResDam(46), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Conditioning | Hidden
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(17)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19), PrfShf-End%(19)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon
Level 4: Afterburner
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Edited January 7, 2022 by KaizenSoze

[Redletter]

  On 1/7/2022 at 1:07 PM, KaizenSoze said:

If you want to steamroll most content you cannot beat a Crabbermind...

 

Having said that I don't enjoy playing them, too many things that need to be managed.

 

Banes are like defender/stalkers. Good AOE, good def buffing, decent -resists, good single target, plus you can sneak around like a stalker.

 

A great team asset, plus a good soloer. General not end hungry once built out. I can run barrier instead of ageless. Does not require massive recharge, but benefits well from it.

 

The downside is that they are good at many things, not oh my god good at anything.

 

And of course the ever annoying re-draw issues, which one day I hope the devs fix.

 

Here is an example build which is close to what I am running. Slotting varies because I am always tinkering.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.0.10
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Wasteland Shadow Mixed: Level 50 Magic Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprSpdBit-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprSpdBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(7)
Level 1: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-Max HP%(11), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(13), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 4: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(21)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), GssSynFr--Build%(21)
Level 8: Hover -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(23), Rct-Def(23)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(25), LucoftheG-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 12: Venom Grenade -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(31), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(31)
Level 14: Pulverize -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(34)
Level 16: Poisonous Ray -- Apc-Dmg(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(34), ShlBrk-%Dam(36), GldJvl-Dam%(36), AchHee-ResDeb%(36), Apc-Dam%(37)
Level 18: Frag Grenade -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(37), OvrFrc-End/Rech(37), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(39), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(39), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39)
Level 20: Shatter -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Acc/Rchg(40), Hct-Dam%(42), TchofDth-Dam%(42)
Level 22: Wolf Spider Armor -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(42)
Level 24: Cloaking Device -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 28: Surveillance -- AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDmnofA-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(45)
Level 35: Tactical Training: Leadership -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 38: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-Psi/Status(46), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(46), Ags-ResDam(46), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Conditioning | Hidden
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(17)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19), PrfShf-End%(19)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon
Level 4: Afterburner
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Thanks KaizenSoze-Sensei. I figured it was something like a Stalker with ranged options, jsut looking at the powers. I did use my alt build on my crab to test out the mace stuff, but Im a picky eater and the redraw, while basically meaningless, does infuriate me, as does the crab pack being hard coded into the crab powers so even if you take one, on a totally different build, which isnt a problem I'd even say SHOULD be solved since I assume solving it would take more time than other, much more important fixes. But I digress. Thank you.

 

Out of curiosity, is there a reason you didnt use the Mace powers from the patron set?

[KaizenSoze]

  On 1/9/2022 at 2:32 AM, Redletter said:

Out of curiosity, is there a reason you didnt use the Mace powers from the patron set?

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Short answer is that I did have enough power selections or slots to use it effectively. 

 

Long answer is that I would only take Shatter Armor on a mace only Bane. I am not in love with Shatter as some people. It has a long recharge, 30 second, and requires either taking Mace Blast or Web Envelope which are IMO meh. I have a good attack chain w/o it. I used those powers and slots for durability.