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Why did you decide on this specific combination of power sets for your first Defender?
I like Pain Domination but it can a bit hit-or-miss... it can be essential to a low-level team where nobody has good IOs or soft-capped defenses, but a team of 50s with set IOs and incarnate powers may not need any healing at all. In cases like this, the Pain Domination Defender is basically a Blaster who can buff the team with World of Pain and Painbringer, so it's good to have a secondary that you enjoy.
Do you like Sonic Attack or do you just like resistance debuffs?

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This is the build that I'm currently using. It's my first level 50 and the first build I've ever made. I was also trying to keep it cheap (can only afford half of it so far). Others might be more optimal with their choices or know more about what they're doing. You generally want World of Pain to be perma, and Anguishing Cry to be close to perma.

 

A few notes about the build: It is not a heavy heal build at all, it's a +resist -resist buff/debuff group oriented specialist. I've found that people mostly need a little top off or one big heal, which this provides. It also does really crappy damage, although you can push it a bit by running Assault, World of Pain, Amplify, and using Share Pain.

 

Stealth should be providing a bit more than 3% defense once revealed, so its r/s/l/e softcapped. Perma hasten. Screech has a knockback proc but you're mainly using it on bosses/AV's so it shouldn't be that annoying. Painbringer is perma on one person. Siren's Song you can switch out for a rez or something if you want.

 

Strategy: In between packs spread around Enforced Morale, or specifically target people who need mez resist/recovery. Keep up Painbringer on whoever is doing the most dmg or needs recovery. Basically that *one* blaster who does tons of dmg but keeps dying from agro and running out of end gets EM/Painb/Grant Invis. On packs I let tanks get agro, then hit Anguishing Cry/Dreadful Wail/back up and Howl.

 

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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Pain Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Nullify Pain -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(3), Prv-Absorb%(3)
Level 1: Shriek -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(9)
Level 2: Share Pain -- Heal-I(A)
Level 4: Scream -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(23), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 6: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Rct-Def/Rchg(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Rct-ResDam%(23)
Level 8: Howl -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Ann-ResDeb%(15)
Level 10: Enforced Morale -- Range-I(A)
Level 12: Infiltration -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 18: World of Pain -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctArm-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 20: Amplify -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(34), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(46), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(47), GssSynFr--Build%(49)
Level 22: Kick -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mk'Bit-Dam%(46)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(46)
Level 26: Weave -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(29), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(31)
Level 28: Anguishing Cry -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(36), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(36), AchHee-ResDeb%(36), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlBrk-%Dam(37)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Painbringer -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Screech -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(37), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(40), Stp-Stun/Rng(42), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(42), Stp-KB%(42)
Level 38: Dreadful Wail -- Obl-Dmg/Rchg(A), Obl-%Dam(39), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(39), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(40)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(47), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFrt-Def(48), RedFrt-EndRdx(49)
Level 44: Siren's Song -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A)
Level 47: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Vigilance 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(17)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface 
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On 3/19/2022 at 8:12 AM, Two Dollar Bill said:

Why did you decide on this specific combination of power sets for your first Defender?
I like Pain Domination but it can a bit hit-or-miss... it can be essential to a low-level team where nobody has good IOs or soft-capped defenses, but a team of 50s with set IOs and incarnate powers may not need any healing at all. In cases like this, the Pain Domination Defender is basically a Blaster who can buff the team with World of Pain and Painbringer, so it's good to have a secondary that you enjoy.
Do you like Sonic Attack or do you just like resistance debuffs?

I chose it for more or less for those reasons plus a theme I was going for. Used to really like sonic attack back in the day with my corruptor and blaster.

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19 hours ago, Wimbochismo said:

This is the build that I'm currently using. It's my first level 50 and the first build I've ever made. I was also trying to keep it cheap (can only afford half of it so far). Others might be more optimal with their choices or know more about what they're doing. You generally want World of Pain to be perma, and Anguishing Cry to be close to perma.

 

A few notes about the build: It is not a heavy heal build at all, it's a +resist -resist buff/debuff group oriented specialist. I've found that people mostly need a little top off or one big heal, which this provides. It also does really crappy damage, although you can push it a bit by running Assault, World of Pain, Amplify, and using Share Pain.

 

Stealth should be providing a bit more than 3% defense once revealed, so its r/s/l/e softcapped. Perma hasten. Screech has a knockback proc but you're mainly using it on bosses/AV's so it shouldn't be that annoying. Painbringer is perma on one person. Siren's Song you can switch out for a rez or something if you want.

 

Strategy: In between packs spread around Enforced Morale, or specifically target people who need mez resist/recovery. Keep up Painbringer on whoever is doing the most dmg or needs recovery. Basically that *one* blaster who does tons of dmg but keeps dying from agro and running out of end gets EM/Painb/Grant Invis. On packs I let tanks get agro, then hit Anguishing Cry/Dreadful Wail/back up and Howl.

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Pain Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Nullify Pain -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(3), Prv-Absorb%(3)
Level 1: Shriek -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(9)
Level 2: Share Pain -- Heal-I(A)
Level 4: Scream -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(23), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 6: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Rct-Def/Rchg(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Rct-ResDam%(23)
Level 8: Howl -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Ann-ResDeb%(15)
Level 10: Enforced Morale -- Range-I(A)
Level 12: Infiltration -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 18: World of Pain -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctArm-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 20: Amplify -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(34), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(46), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(47), GssSynFr--Build%(49)
Level 22: Kick -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mk'Bit-Dam%(46)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(46)
Level 26: Weave -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(29), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(31)
Level 28: Anguishing Cry -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(36), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(36), AchHee-ResDeb%(36), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlBrk-%Dam(37)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Painbringer -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Screech -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(37), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(40), Stp-Stun/Rng(42), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(42), Stp-KB%(42)
Level 38: Dreadful Wail -- Obl-Dmg/Rchg(A), Obl-%Dam(39), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(39), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(40)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(47), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFrt-Def(48), RedFrt-EndRdx(49)
Level 44: Siren's Song -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A)
Level 47: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Vigilance 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(17)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface 
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More than anything else, I think the one ability that makes a "healing set" like Pain Domination awesome is keeping a teammate from face-planting. Even if you see your character as a (de)buffing blaster-type, I would always take Soothe and slot it like you mean it. There is just no substitute.
For this particular build I went with soft-capped ranged defense because I think that's the easiest way to avoid getting mezzed by random enemies. Still, Scorpion Shield for smashing/lethal defense, like Wimbochismo's build, would be good if you like close range combat.

 

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Level 50 Technology Defender
Primary Power Set: Pain Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Nullify Pain -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(3), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(3), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), NmnCnv-Heal(5), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7)
Level 1: Shriek -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Soothe -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(15), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(19), Prv-Absorb%(19)
Level 4: Scream -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(21), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 6: Howl -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(25), Artl-Dam/Rech(27), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(27), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(29), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(29)
Level 8: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(31), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(31)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31)
Level 12: Enforced Morale -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Shout -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(34)
Level 18: World of Pain -- UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36)
Level 20: Amplify -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(37), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(37), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), RedFrt-Def(39), RedFrt-EndRdx(39)
Level 26: Anguishing Cry -- AnlWkn-Acc/DefDeb(A), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(39), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(40)
Level 28: Conduit of Pain -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Painbringer -- PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(40)
Level 35: Charged Armor -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Ags-Psi/Status(42), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(42), GldArm-3defTpProc(42)
Level 38: Dreadful Wail -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(43), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Screech -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-KB%(45), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(46), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(46), Stp-Stun/Rng(46), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Summon Adept -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(48), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(13)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13), EndMod-I(15)
Level 8: Double Jump
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