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I'm honestly not particularly strong at slotting. So, I need advice. 

 

I love having damage output, but I took invulnerable because I want to live for when I pull a boner and get into a mob that can take me out in short order. 

 

Please help. How should I build? How should I slot? I'm nearing 50, and I'd like to be set with a plan of action. 

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Invulnerability is a multi-layered survivabilty kit. It has resistances, defenses, a heal that increases HP, and some debuff resists. You'll want to maximise the potential of the first 3 mentioned. Keep in mind, the idea is to jump into large crowds as the more your taunt aura affects enemies, the more defense you get.

 

What kind of build are you looking for? End game expensive build, cheap but survivable? Somehwere in between?

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I don't actually have a street justice/invuln scrapper, although I do have a invuln/stj tank but he is still in the high 30's so I threw together a quick example of how I might build an stj/invuln scrapper. I included some alternate slotting in some of the powers. Other notes on the build

 

1) I don't do procced out builds, although I do throw in a proc here or there if I can manage it.

2) I put scrappers strike in sweeping cross because I like the set bonuses (and enhancement bonuses) better than all other non-purple melee AOE sets. You can swap it out for armageddon if you wish but that will cost you twice as much inf (archetype IO's generally cost 8-9 million each on the market and you can get enhancement catalysts to upgrade them to the superior version for less than mill each, where armageddon is going to cost you from 16-20 million a piece - same goes for all other purples)

3) I slotted spinning strike with ragnarock and an FF+rech, but you can replace that with a full set of bombardment if you don't want to spend on the purple set. Bombardment gives you E/NE resistances, ragnarock gives you F/C res and toxic/psionic if you want to drop the FF+rech and 6 slot the set

4) I put critical strikes in shin breaker to try and take advantage of the slightly higher recharge to trigger the crit proc but you can swap its slotting with either rib cracker or heavy blow. 

5) When slotting for typed def in resistance powers there are 2 sets that give you the best benefits. Reactive armor gives you 1.25% E/NE def at 3 pieces and 1.25% S/L def at 4. Aegis gives you 3.13% F/C def at 3 pieces. You can swap these around as needed depending on which def you want to increase. 

6) I set Invulnerability to 3 targets to get an average. That slightly better than softcaps you to S/L and gives you 35-37% to F/C/E/NE.  

7) Hasten isn't perma, but dull pain is when hasten is up. 

 

Its not a perfect, all softcapped build and you might not want to go with Psionic Mastery for an epic pool but I like the extra end reduction you get from harmonic mind and the psionic damage is nice against things that are highly resistant to smashing. 

StJusticeInvulnScrapper.mbd

Posted
1 hour ago, bAss_ackwards said:

Invulnerability is a multi-layered survivabilty kit. It has resistances, defenses, a heal that increases HP, and some debuff resists. You'll want to maximise the potential of the first 3 mentioned. Keep in mind, the idea is to jump into large crowds as the more your taunt aura affects enemies, the more defense you get.

 

What kind of build are you looking for? End game expensive build, cheap but survivable? Somehwere in between?

Well, I'd like to be able to handle end game content comfortably. He doesn't have to be super top of the line elite. I'm sure I'll never be able to afford or manage that. 

 

The future is in the past! 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Midnight Mystique said:

I don't actually have a street justice/invuln scrapper, although I do have a invuln/stj tank but he is still in the high 30's so I threw together a quick example of how I might build an stj/invuln scrapper. I included some alternate slotting in some of the powers. Other notes on the build

 

1) I don't do procced out builds, although I do throw in a proc here or there if I can manage it.

2) I put scrappers strike in sweeping cross because I like the set bonuses (and enhancement bonuses) better than all other non-purple melee AOE sets. You can swap it out for armageddon if you wish but that will cost you twice as much inf (archetype IO's generally cost 8-9 million each on the market and you can get enhancement catalysts to upgrade them to the superior version for less than mill each, where armageddon is going to cost you from 16-20 million a piece - same goes for all other purples)

3) I slotted spinning strike with ragnarock and an FF+rech, but you can replace that with a full set of bombardment if you don't want to spend on the purple set. Bombardment gives you E/NE resistances, ragnarock gives you F/C res and toxic/psionic if you want to drop the FF+rech and 6 slot the set

4) I put critical strikes in shin breaker to try and take advantage of the slightly higher recharge to trigger the crit proc but you can swap its slotting with either rib cracker or heavy blow. 

5) When slotting for typed def in resistance powers there are 2 sets that give you the best benefits. Reactive armor gives you 1.25% E/NE def at 3 pieces and 1.25% S/L def at 4. Aegis gives you 3.13% F/C def at 3 pieces. You can swap these around as needed depending on which def you want to increase. 

6) I set Invulnerability to 3 targets to get an average. That slightly better than softcaps you to S/L and gives you 35-37% to F/C/E/NE.  

7) Hasten isn't perma, but dull pain is when hasten is up. 

 

Its not a perfect, all softcapped build and you might not want to go with Psionic Mastery for an epic pool but I like the extra end reduction you get from harmonic mind and the psionic damage is nice against things that are highly resistant to smashing. 

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I appreciate your advice. I'll strongly consider what you've recommended, and try to implement as I can. Thank you.

The future is in the past! 

Posted
1 hour ago, Cat41717 said:

Well, I'd like to be able to handle end game content comfortably. He doesn't have to be super top of the line elite. I'm sure I'll never be able to afford or manage that. 

 

All it takes is time! Make use of merits and inf and you'll go far with your build.

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Posted
20 hours ago, Midnight Mystique said:

I don't actually have a street justice/invuln scrapper, although I do have a invuln/stj tank but he is still in the high 30's so I threw together a quick example of how I might build an stj/invuln scrapper. I included some alternate slotting in some of the powers. Other notes on the build

 

1) I don't do procced out builds, although I do throw in a proc here or there if I can manage it.

2) I put scrappers strike in sweeping cross because I like the set bonuses (and enhancement bonuses) better than all other non-purple melee AOE sets. You can swap it out for armageddon if you wish but that will cost you twice as much inf (archetype IO's generally cost 8-9 million each on the market and you can get enhancement catalysts to upgrade them to the superior version for less than mill each, where armageddon is going to cost you from 16-20 million a piece - same goes for all other purples)

3) I slotted spinning strike with ragnarock and an FF+rech, but you can replace that with a full set of bombardment if you don't want to spend on the purple set. Bombardment gives you E/NE resistances, ragnarock gives you F/C res and toxic/psionic if you want to drop the FF+rech and 6 slot the set

4) I put critical strikes in shin breaker to try and take advantage of the slightly higher recharge to trigger the crit proc but you can swap its slotting with either rib cracker or heavy blow. 

5) When slotting for typed def in resistance powers there are 2 sets that give you the best benefits. Reactive armor gives you 1.25% E/NE def at 3 pieces and 1.25% S/L def at 4. Aegis gives you 3.13% F/C def at 3 pieces. You can swap these around as needed depending on which def you want to increase. 

6) I set Invulnerability to 3 targets to get an average. That slightly better than softcaps you to S/L and gives you 35-37% to F/C/E/NE.  

7) Hasten isn't perma, but dull pain is when hasten is up. 

 

Its not a perfect, all softcapped build and you might not want to go with Psionic Mastery for an epic pool but I like the extra end reduction you get from harmonic mind and the psionic damage is nice against things that are highly resistant to smashing. 

StJusticeInvulnScrapper.mbd 47.57 kB · 2 downloads

Her, Midnight, I'd like to see the attachment,  but it's not working for me.

The future is in the past! 

Posted
15 hours ago, Cat41717 said:

Her, Midnight, I'd like to see the attachment,  but it's not working for me.

 

What happens when you click on it? I get a 'save file' window with the file name in it. I have never gotten a mids save file to open directly to mids, so I just save them to disk then manually open them. The file I attached is from Mids Reborn v3.7.14 using the homecoming DB v 2025.6.1082. I suppose I could try to message a copy to you, never done that before. 

 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Midnight Mystique said:

 

What happens when you click on it? I get a 'save file' window with the file name in it. I have never gotten a mids save file to open directly to mids, so I just save them to disk then manually open them. The file I attached is from Mids Reborn v3.7.14 using the homecoming DB v 2025.6.1082. I suppose I could try to message a copy to you, never done that before. 

 

 

I can save the file. But the extension is an unknown format. What program are you using to view it?

The future is in the past! 

Posted
11 hours ago, Cat41717 said:

I can save the file. But the extension is an unknown format. What program are you using to view it?

I am using Mids Reborn Hero Designer, get the latest installer from  https://midsreborn.com, Make sure you update it to the lastest version and database, I listed the app/db version I am running in my previous response. 

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