Hybrid Control Radial vs Core for Controllers

[Tankshock]

Are these notably better than Assault for Controllers?  Specifically Fire/Marine in this case.  Anyone feel strongly that one is better than the other?  Is the Core damage noticeable?  Thanks!

[Warshades]

Iirc, control core hybrid should be best if you're trying to max damage on most controller sets. The base damage on most controller powers is quite low and a lot of your damage output will come from a combination of procs and containment which control core hybrid helps.

 

Assault would be more ideal for dominators which have a damage dealing secondary set and already benefit from increased control magnitude if built for perma domination.

 

Edit: ignore my comment.

Edited Wednesday at 12:44 AM by Warshades

[dukedukes]

I'm not familiar with a general consensus on this topic but here's my 2 cents.

 

Control Radial can dish out some serious additional mez, it's a good choice if you actually need the mez but you generally won't. Just keep it in mind if you frequently find yourself in scenarios where you wanted more mez.

 

Control Core procs a good amount but it's not much damage. The +1 mag is less useful than it sounds, the additional mag does not last the same duration as the mez that triggered it. You also need to successfully mez the target before the procs and +1 mag can kick in.

 

Assault Radial. The damage the double hit does isn't very intuitive but I would ballpark it dealing twice as much as Control Core, plus you get a little 10% damage boost. It's more than you would expect with trollers low damage attacks, for example my unenhanced ST hold does 33.65 damage but the double hit does 70.24 damage on its own, from my understanding part of the reason for this is the double hit ignores AT damage scaling (edit: don't take this as gospel, I don't know for sure, in some cases it doesn't seem to line up), and troller damage scaling is painfully low at .55. The choice may vary between sets, I'm only familiar with some. This is the default choice for a troller as far as I can tell. 

Edited Tuesday at 07:53 PM by dukedukes
added caveat

[Tankshock]

How did the Control Core damage proc on AoE and toggles? Wondering how much damage it adds to Fire Cages and Hot Foot.

 

And thanks, that's good info

Edited Wednesday at 10:06 AM by Tankshock

[dukedukes]

34 minutes ago, Tankshock said:

How did the Control Core damage proc on AoE and toggles? Wondering how much damage it adds to Fire Cages and Hot Foot.

 

Control Core is very good with those powers because of the flat proc rate, typically those powers suffer from bad proc rates. Fire Cages would get a big damage increase as the proc hits harder than the power. The toggle will have a good chance of proc'ing every 10 sec.