Maginary

No one was able to backup their opposition with facts, thanks for being another example of that. You aren't taking into account how the damage will be the exact same as P2W powers and a medium inspiration. The trivializing you're referring to is already happening through the use of inspirations and P2W powers.

A GM who publicly demonstrated their lack of awareness of damage formulas and how mission objectives directly determine the playstyle of the team closed my last topic because they would rather exercise power than engage in factual debate. Hopefully this will have a different outcome. I'm also hoping that the usual suspects will take a second to think critically instead of voting no then asking how it works right after. If AE missions are the most brain-dead and most popular way to level up and slotting P2W powers and a medium inspiration is the equivalent to just having access to your own, why not allow players to keep their powers? Please keep in mind that damage is capped at lower levels. The Lv32 big damage/aoe whatever you're thinking of will do the same amount of damage as a P2W power in places like DFB and Posi+. Incarnates are not included. Common ignorance: "That's too powerful!" - People are already spamming Team Inspirations to reach the damage cap (you don't need many at that level) and equipping P2W powers to blaze through lower level content. Your irrational fear of Level 1s having Fulcrum Shift is already happening by popping 2 medium inspirations. "Well there's more to damage, please consider CC abilities" - A Storm Controller using Gale slotted with knockdown and recharge can permanently lockdown and knockdown whole groups of mobs from the start of DFB. A Kinetic using Repel slotted with knockdown and reduced cost can permanently lockdown and knockdown whole groups of mobs in DFB. An Electric Controller using Jolting Chain slotted with recharge can permanently lockdown and knockdown whole groups of mobs in DFB.

Aside from the repeating of the same arguments on the last page, does leveling from 1-10 in one +4 8x DFB hosted by higher level friends not sound fun as sh*t? You're already doing it semi-afking in AEs chatting with Dave about his cat's dementia.

Power access has nothing to do with mission pace. The lower level missions are more enjoyable because the objectives encourage cooperation. If DFB's objective was to just kill the bosses or escort teleporting, they would be speed ran. Having access to powers is the exact same as replacing them with P2W powers and popping an inspiration in DFB and Posi.

Alright, tiger. Thank you for your opinion.

My previous posts have facts and receipts. You continue to provide nothing but empty distraction.

Another claim with no data to support it. Thank you for your opinion.

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It's available after the first boss. Also, a Storm Controller using Gale slotted with knockdown and recharge can permanently lockdown and knockdown whole groups of mobs from the start of DFB. A Kinetic using Repel slotted with knockdown and reduced cost can permanently lockdown and knockdown whole groups of mobs in DFB.

Except it's not? I can use it in DFB on my Electric Controller. You can use powers up to level 10 in DFB as you progress.

A Controller or Dominator with recharge slotted in Jolting Chain can permanently lockdown and knockdown entire groups of mobs in DFB already, making them immune to any threat. Having fear and all that will be no more OP than that. I have Jolting Chain on a 3 second cooldown here. That's DIB, but it's the same power in DFB.

Two medium damage inspirations will cap your damage in DFB, depending on the archetype. You are welcome to go test it. edit: My mistake, it took 3 mediums, so maybe a large and one medium to hit the damage cap, depending on the archetype.

The level 32 powers that you think are OP will do maybe 10-15 damage to DFB mobs and appropriate damage to Posi+. It's the same thing as placing P2W powers where yours would be and popping an inspiration for the exact damage. All damage is automatically capped. It will not have the same effectiveness as Level 35+. The same output is already possible with the use of P2W and inspirations. The same thing is already happening except it uses different animations.

I'm saying if that has been possible the whole time, there's no argument vs it being too powerful. For my mental health, I give up. Thank you for aiding my revision of what it means to think critically. Take care, stay safe

To change the tempo of the low and mid level game, all you have to do is pop a medium inspiration or two to hit the damage cap. It's the same damage with different animations. Inferno and whatever powers you are thinking will make everything worse than AE AFKing will do maybe 15 damage to DFB mobs. I think people are not taking into account the damage scaling when they consider having access to powers. There still won't be any one-shotting of bosses going on and mobs will still hurt. All powers have cooldowns.

Fully aware it's a lost cause, even the GMs are ignoring facts and systems already in place that make the exact same damage output possible. Thanks everyone

How do you feel about P2W powers and popping medium inspirations having the exact same damage cap as if your powers were available in places like DFB and Posi 1+2?

The broken record is me trying to explain how the very thing you're saying, having powers would be too OP because of damage, is literally the same mechanic as equipping a P2W power and popping an inspiration. There is no difference. The bonuses that you think you'll get from the Lv35+ powers will not -- will not -- be the same amount that you get at level 35+ because the damage bonus caps on its own from level 1-30+. It's the same reason why Lv50+ are not one-shotting SBB bosses. The cap adjusts the damage on it's own already. It really is just access to the exact same maximum amount of damage already possible through use of P2W powers and a medium inspiration except with better animations. I am sad for the future of games, but I think I'm done yelling at the wall. Thanks everyone for your participation. Take care, stay safe.

I don't have a fixation on P2W powers, it's the counter to people who don't realize there are already systems in place that work that way and are being used. That would be true if the content did actually force you to play with only a few tools available. Allowing P2W powers negates the idea that you're being forced to play that way. All you have to do is move the P2W powers where the faded out powers are and pop a medium inspiration to outperform having your powers available.

Alright, people will just continue to spam Team Inspirations in place of Fulcrum Shift at lower levels for the exact same experience. Thank you for your opinion.

That's a mighty long way to ignore the fact that Team Inspirations and P2W powers are the equivalent (sometimes even better) to just having them available. Thank you for your opinion.

This is the idea, yeah. It's just another power creep among the bunch.

...unless you read it and see that I left out Incarnates. Thank you for your opinion.

I can give everyone Fulcrum Shift on my Scrapper in DFB with Team Inspirations. It won't be +400% damage bonus because it caps at lower levels. It would be the same as popping a medium inspiration. Again, there are already systems in place that do the same thing. The repeated argument that it will somehow make things too easy when people are already finding ways around it along with AE AFKing existing is a bit concerning. e: excuse the quality of the pic, the PNG form is too big to post

Thank you for your opinion.