Sweetcake Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Hi, I was hoping to get some feedback on a possible TW/WP. I am positive it can be improved but my brain doesn't seem to want to see it. Any help is really appreciated (even if it's to tell me the build sucks) This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Titan WeaponsSecondary Power Set: WillpowerPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Crushing Blow (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (3) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (3) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (5) Accuracy IO Level 1: High Pain Tolerance (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge Level 2: Titan Sweep (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (7) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 4: Fast Healing (A) Regenerative Tissue - +RegenerationLevel 6: Follow Through (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (17) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 8: Build Momentum (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build UpLevel 10: Indomitable Will (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (11) Reactive Defenses - Defense (11) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 12: Mind Over Body (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (17) Aegis - Resistance (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance Level 14: Super Speed (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)Level 16: Rise to the Challenge (A) Healing IOLevel 18: Rend Armor (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (21) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (21) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 20: Quick Recovery (A) Endurance Modification IOLevel 22: Boxing (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 24: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (25) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (48) Reactive Armor - Resistance (50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 26: Whirling Smash (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage (27) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (27) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc Level 28: Heightened Senses (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (29) Kismet - Accuracy +6% (29) Reactive Defenses - Defense (31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 30: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (31) Reactive Defenses - Defense (31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 32: Arc of Destruction (A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (34) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff Level 35: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (36) Reactive Defenses - Defense (36) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 38: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (39) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (39) Reactive Defenses - Defense (39) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 41: Moonbeam (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Superior Winter's Bite - 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1seanv Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 I modified your build: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1433&c=710&a=1420&f=HEX&dc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our build is probably better overall because you are slightly over soft cap for most of the damage types, whereas mine is significantly lower on S/L/E/N. In real world terms your build will take less hits on average, but mine will regen more hp, has almost 23% more psionic resist, and has a true get out of jail card with hibernate every 80 seconds. I don't like Shadow Meld because to me it's a power you use pre-combat vs mid with its 3 second cast time. Anything with a 3 second cast time is liable to get you killed when surrounded by enemies. I realize that with your defense that generally wouldn't be an issue, but I prefer powers that cast almost instantaneously and can completely turn your character around. I think your build with its higher defense would outperform mine on average by a decent margin, but mine would be better dealing with cascading defense failure and the occasional massive damage spike. I remember testing my two brutes in RWZ against the classic scrapper challenge spawns and my /INV brute always outsurvived my /WP brute - ALWAYS. Both were IO'd to the max. The only thing I could think of for this was because the /INV could handle the occasional bout of chunky damage getting through better with Dull Pain's huge heal and hp capping, and because with /INV having better resists in general. This is kinda what led me to hibernate - the ability to deal with those times when /WP's layered mitigation gets overwhelmed. I think your build is great. I wouldn't have thought to slot it like you did to get all those types of defense over the soft cap. Also, I definitely do not claim to make great builds, but thought I'd offer an alternative and the reasons for it.
Sweetcake Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Hi, thank you for taking the time to respond. To be perfectly honest, I'm not a huge fan of Shadow meld either, I only took it as I remembered using it on a bio character previously and didn't think I'd be able to softcap. I haven't come across any debuffs yet on this character but it was only a theoretical build until it hit 50 last night. I really like the idea of having hibernate in there somewhere to help deal with it when things do go wrong. I also like the high regen, it looks like over a minute your build would regen around double mine. I think I may have a play around and see if I can work some of your build into mine. Thank you once again.
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