Let the TRAM/Helicopter system go to all non hazard zones

[DrRocket]

On 10/14/2024 at 5:42 PM, Greycat said:

Given how easy it is to just head to (or create your own!) "transit base" to get anywhere, on  top of things like using Ouro and TUNNEL, I'd personally rather leave the little bit of flavor of "Peregrine Island is an *island,* of *course* you need to use a ferry and not just ride the tram" alone.

 

The whole "two separate tram lines, with the Red line destroyed" was already merged back on live, but at least those still had "they're still tram lines on the ground" (yes, I know, Talos) going for them. (And not having to go station to station to station.)

In the same vein, the tram takes you to town with the boat and a taxi/bus gets you to the boat, type of concept

[DrRocket]

On 10/15/2024 at 4:30 AM, UltraAlt said:

 

You mean like this?

 

 

 

I thought one of the helicopters had a propeller on it, but the one I used didn't have one. So I guess none of the base stuff is animated on that level.

 

 

 

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Awesome!

[DrRocket]

On 10/15/2024 at 12:35 PM, Rudra said:

The Rogue Isles are all connected via ferry. With both Cap au Diable and Port Oakes both having two ferry connection points. So the OP is already met just as you said. Further, the Rogue Isles also have the Black Helicopter Line. This option also connects all the isles with two connection points for some of the Isles as well. Particularly helpful for getting to north Nerva Archipelago. So again, like you said, the Rogue Isles are all already connected like the OP is asking for.

 

Praetoria has the Cole Transit Authority. Trams just like blue side has. However, the CTA only connects Nova Praetoria, Imperial City, and Neutropolis. The Underground does not have a inter-zone connection system other than hoofing it. First Ward is also not connected, nor should it ever be. First Ward is where people are sent to be forgotten. And you can't exactly do that if there is ready access to it via a mass transit system.

 

So, yeah, what the OP is asking for already exists. And I am stuck wondering how the author does not already know all this since using any tram or ferry readily shows all the zones (edit: except for PI and SI, which should remain disconnected in my opinion given how/where they are located) connected.

 

Edit: And it isn't like the ferry or ship that takes players to Striga Isle or Peregrine Island are that far from the Talos Island tram either....

 

No need to be rude here, I am not going to judge you as you have me. There is no tram to PI, of course there are bunches of work arounds, but that does not address the simple suggestion. At one time to get to talos you were forced to got SC south tram and hoof it to the north tram, now that has been removed it was assumed that somehow the traveler was transported between trams, it does not take a lot of imagination here. Thinking if you use the same type of assumptions you could imagine that when you arrive at the tram, likely Talos, internal transportation took you to the boat to PI or striga accordingly. it really is not mind blowing difficult to visualize, after this was simply a quality of life improvement...

[Rudra]

1 hour ago, DrRocket said:

No need to be rude here, I am not going to judge you as you have me.

Did I miss something here? The post you are quoting was directed at the person I was quoting. And I wasn't being rude. I was stating what we already have in the game. The OP asked for basic transit to connect all zones, while keeping red and blue distinct. Red side is already connected for all zones. By two means of transportation. (Edit: Both of which go to all red side zones.)

 

1 hour ago, DrRocket said:

There is no tram to PI, of course there are bunches of work arounds, but that does not address the simple suggestion. At one time to get to talos you were forced to got SC south tram and hoof it to the north tram, now that has been removed it was assumed that somehow the traveler was transported between trams, it does not take a lot of imagination here. Thinking if you use the same type of assumptions you could imagine that when you arrive at the tram, likely Talos, internal transportation took you to the boat to PI or striga accordingly. it really is not mind blowing difficult to visualize, after this was simply a quality of life improvement...

The ferry and the smuggler's ship are both near the trams. With the smuggler's ship to Striga being slightly closer to the Independence Port (north) tram than to the Talos Island tram. And Peregrine Island is readily accessible via TUNNEL or Ouroboros if you lack a base with portals. And if you have the base, the base portal in Talos Island and Independence Port are both right there at the tram. I'm not gonna pitch a fit if the devs decide to implement the OP for whatever reason, but I do think with all the ways we have of quickly getting to Striga Isle and Peregrine Island, the fact you have to walk, run, jump, fly, or teleport the short distance to the ships as opposed to crossing an entire zone to reach the red or green line trams from the other is not a problem. That was always the problem with the red and green lines before they were merged. They were at opposite ends of the entire zone that had both of them. (Edit again: For both zones.) The ships to PI and SI are both right there, just a short distance from the trams.

 

(Edit again: Was it the red and green lines or the yellow and green lines? I can't remember.)

 

Edited October 19 by Rudra