Something Funky with 120s procs (Numina)(Kismet)...

[brass_eagle]

As far as I know, the 120s procs were supposed to work 120s after you turned off a toggle--

 

I had -Kismet +6%- slotted in multiple powers and it shut off right away.

 

I had -Numina Regen/Recovery- slotted in [Cauterizing Aura] from Fire Manipulation and it *wasn't even working* according to combat attributes.

 

Could be wrong on the 120s after you turn a toggle off... but Numina not even working is weird as well.

 

Edit: Not looked at any other 120s procs.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:51 AM by brass_eagle

[brass_eagle]

I'd like to add the Numina Proc worked on health, and the effect remained 120s after I "unslotted" it.

Edited yesterday at 01:01 AM by brass_eagle

[Ridiculous Girl]

18 hours ago, brass_eagle said:

As far as I know, the 120s procs were supposed to work 120s after you turned off a toggle--

i think it is the opposite, procs like this turn off as soon as the toggle is turned off. 

 

but i could be misremembering... 🙂

 

[srmalloy]

7 hours ago, Ridiculous Girl said:

i think it is the opposite, procs like this turn off as soon as the toggle is turned off. 

From the wiki for the Kismet +ToHit global: "When used in a toggle power, the effect persists until 120 seconds after the toggle power is deactivated." And from the mouseover on the enhancement itself: "Increases ToHit for all attacks by 6.0% for 120 seconds."

[Ridiculous Girl]

9 hours ago, srmalloy said:

From the wiki for the Kismet +ToHit global: "When used in a toggle power, the effect persists until 120 seconds after the toggle power is deactivated." And from the mouseover on the enhancement itself: "Increases ToHit for all attacks by 6.0% for 120 seconds."

 

On 7/20/2025 at 2:48 AM, brass_eagle said:

As far as I know, the 120s procs were supposed to work 120s after you turned off a toggle--

 

what i was remembering was a quote from one of the devs about toggles on closed beta, i'll ask permission to quote them.

 

but none of the descriptions on the two enhancements mention toggles now. i think the desrciption on the wiki is outdated, i will find out when this was changed. 

 

 

 

[Ridiculous Girl]

@srmalloy and @brass_eagle

 

Quote

Proc120 Special IOs: Previously, when the 'Proc120' Special IOs were slotted into toggles, they would continue to 'work' for 120 seconds after the toggle was turned off. Now, they shut off immediately when the toggle is turned off. This is considered a fix to the way they were intended to work. They still work for 120 seconds in a click power and they still remain always on in a working passive power. The Proc120 IOs are the Stealth IOs, Kismet's +6% ToHit, and the three Healing Set +Recovery and +Regeneration IOs.

from issue 18, apparently... 😁

[brass_eagle]

Good references. Hopefully someone can update the wiki. Still doesn't explain why the Numina proc wasn't working at all.

 

I don't want to get too far away from the other issue in the original post.

Edited 44 minutes ago by brass_eagle