brass_eagle Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM (edited) As far as I know, the 120s procs were supposed to work 120s after you turned off a toggle-- I had -Kismet +6%- slotted in multiple powers and it shut off right away. I had -Numina Regen/Recovery- slotted in [Cauterizing Aura] from Fire Manipulation and it *wasn't even working* according to combat attributes. Could be wrong on the 120s after you turn a toggle off... but Numina not even working is weird as well. Edit: Not looked at any other 120s procs. Edited Sunday at 12:51 AM by brass_eagle
brass_eagle Posted Sunday at 01:01 AM Author Posted Sunday at 01:01 AM (edited) I'd like to add the Numina Proc worked on health, and the effect remained 120s after I "unslotted" it. Edited Sunday at 01:01 AM by brass_eagle
Ridiculous Girl Posted Sunday at 07:18 PM Posted Sunday at 07:18 PM 18 hours ago, brass_eagle said: As far as I know, the 120s procs were supposed to work 120s after you turned off a toggle-- i think it is the opposite, procs like this turn off as soon as the toggle is turned off. but i could be misremembering... 🙂 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
srmalloy Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM 7 hours ago, Ridiculous Girl said: i think it is the opposite, procs like this turn off as soon as the toggle is turned off. From the wiki for the Kismet +ToHit global: "When used in a toggle power, the effect persists until 120 seconds after the toggle power is deactivated." And from the mouseover on the enhancement itself: "Increases ToHit for all attacks by 6.0% for 120 seconds." 2
Ridiculous Girl Posted yesterday at 12:13 PM Posted yesterday at 12:13 PM 9 hours ago, srmalloy said: From the wiki for the Kismet +ToHit global: "When used in a toggle power, the effect persists until 120 seconds after the toggle power is deactivated." And from the mouseover on the enhancement itself: "Increases ToHit for all attacks by 6.0% for 120 seconds." On 7/20/2025 at 2:48 AM, brass_eagle said: As far as I know, the 120s procs were supposed to work 120s after you turned off a toggle-- what i was remembering was a quote from one of the devs about toggles on closed beta, i'll ask permission to quote them. but none of the descriptions on the two enhancements mention toggles now. i think the desrciption on the wiki is outdated, i will find out when this was changed. "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
Ridiculous Girl Posted yesterday at 02:16 PM Posted yesterday at 02:16 PM @srmalloy and @brass_eagle Quote Proc120 Special IOs: Previously, when the 'Proc120' Special IOs were slotted into toggles, they would continue to 'work' for 120 seconds after the toggle was turned off. Now, they shut off immediately when the toggle is turned off. This is considered a fix to the way they were intended to work. They still work for 120 seconds in a click power and they still remain always on in a working passive power. The Proc120 IOs are the Stealth IOs, Kismet's +6% ToHit, and the three Healing Set +Recovery and +Regeneration IOs. from issue 18, apparently... 😁 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
brass_eagle Posted yesterday at 05:10 PM Author Posted yesterday at 05:10 PM (edited) Good references. Hopefully someone can update the wiki. Still doesn't explain why the Numina proc wasn't working at all. I don't want to get too far away from the other issue in the original post. Edited yesterday at 05:11 PM by brass_eagle 1
Ridiculous Girl Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, brass_eagle said: Still doesn't explain why the Numina proc wasn't working at all what was your set up? what blaster primary? we can try to reproduce this... 🙂 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
brass_eagle Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago (edited) Dual Pistols. You can sure try if you like--I'm just reporting what I experienced. Not to be rude, but are you not able to reproduce it? Here's my screenshots: Went on test (open beta Brainstorm realm 7/21 to re-re-produce it. Edited 22 hours ago by brass_eagle added test 1
Ridiculous Girl Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 23 minutes ago, brass_eagle said: but are you not able to reproduce it? i have not tried yet, but the more that we can diagnose and the more we test the better the report. 🙂 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
Ridiculous Girl Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 15 hours ago, brass_eagle said: Went on test (open beta Brainstorm realm 7/21 to re-re-produce it. yeah, i was able to duplicate this too. with dual pistols and fire primaries. what you need to do is submit a new bug report specifically for cauterizing aura, particularily that neither the miracle nor the numina procs work correctly there. funny thing is that i tried miracle proc in another toggle and it persisted after detoggling, which it should not. (oops no) but that is an entirely different thing (but there is another thing related) and i may go and report on that, after i test a few more things. 🙂 Edited 7 hours ago by Ridiculous Girl added something :) "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
Ridiculous Girl Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago On 7/21/2025 at 4:34 AM, srmalloy said: From the wiki for the Kismet +ToHit global: "When used in a toggle power, the effect persists until 120 seconds after the toggle power is deactivated." And from the mouseover on the enhancement itself: "Increases ToHit for all attacks by 6.0% for 120 seconds." wiki has been updated :) "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
Ridiculous Girl Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago there is another older bug report with mud baths and the same thing, they only activate in the presence of an enemy. "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz
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