Tatterhood Posted Monday at 03:41 PM Posted Monday at 03:41 PM (edited) I did Bobby Curtin's arc and picked the ending where I took Arc Flash's bracers. The souvenir says this: Quote You convinced her to trade her magical bracers for the diamond. She refused and attacked you. Naturally you beat her back, then took her bracers before the mediporter whisked her off. There's an obvious contradiction here between "you convinced her" and "she refused", and in the actual mission she did agree to give them up without (further) violence so the rest of it is just wrong. Looking at the wiki, you only get this version of the souvenir if you beat up the auctioneer. If you take the bracers and didn't beat him up you get a correct description of events. I don't know if it's just a mistake in the souvenir or if beating up the auctioneer is actually supposed to change how she reacts to asking for the bracers, but it doesn't seem to do so currently. Edited Monday at 03:42 PM by Tatterhood
Rudra Posted Monday at 05:32 PM Posted Monday at 05:32 PM (edited) Running off memory, if you beat up the auctioneer, Arc Flash is supposed to be hostile to you regardless. So I'm going to guess the bug is that you were able to convince her to hand over the bracers despite beating up a (relatively) innocent civilian. (Edit: Not that she will flat out attack you after her initial defeat like if you killed her brother, but that she should refuse to hand over the bracers and you beat them off of her because you proved to her you can't be trusted.) Edited Monday at 05:36 PM by Rudra
Tatterhood Posted Monday at 07:03 PM Author Posted Monday at 07:03 PM 36 minutes ago, Rudra said: Running off memory, if you beat up the auctioneer, Arc Flash is supposed to be hostile to you regardless. So I'm going to guess the bug is that you were able to convince her to hand over the bracers despite beating up a (relatively) innocent civilian. I wondered if maybe that was how it worked at some point in development but it ended up being scrapped and they forgot to update the souvenir. It's certainly possible that it's actually a bug though. The wiki has meticulous documentation of all the different branches and doesn't mention anything about Arc Flash's dialogue or behaviour being different based on the treatment of the auctioneer, so if it is a bug it's seemingly not just me who ran into it. (Personally I feel like one way or another you've done enough bad things in the arc – beating up heroes in Paragon, possibly helping a Council archvillain escape captivity, "defeating" dozens of security guards and cops as well as her Legacy Chain friends – that it doesn't really make much sense that she would draw the line at you punching the auctioneer. It's also not even obvious that she would know about it. But that's just my opinion and there's something to fix either way.)
Rudra Posted Monday at 08:11 PM Posted Monday at 08:11 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, Tatterhood said: I wondered if maybe that was how it worked at some point in development but it ended up being scrapped and they forgot to update the souvenir. It's certainly possible that it's actually a bug though. The wiki has meticulous documentation of all the different branches and doesn't mention anything about Arc Flash's dialogue or behaviour being different based on the treatment of the auctioneer, so if it is a bug it's seemingly not just me who ran into it. (Personally I feel like one way or another you've done enough bad things in the arc – beating up heroes in Paragon, possibly helping a Council archvillain escape captivity, "defeating" dozens of security guards and cops as well as her Legacy Chain friends – that it doesn't really make much sense that she would draw the line at you punching the auctioneer. It's also not even obvious that she would know about it. But that's just my opinion and there's something to fix either way.) Just pulled this from the wiki: Traded diamond for bracers, violence against the auctioneer You convinced her to trade her magical bracers for the diamond. She refused and attacked you. Naturally you beat her back, then took her bracers before the mediporter whisked her off. Arc Flash still had the diamond, but you can put the bracers to your own ends and you've eliminated a hero from possibly foiling you in the future. The Miller will be searching for a buyer, but until then you're holding onto the bracers. (Edit: So yes, beating up the auctioneer is supposed to make her just giving you her bracers not a valid outcome. So if you beat up the auctioneer and she willingly gave you her bracers, that part bugged. The souvenir notice you got after though, other than the "convinced' statement being a poor choice of words, is correct. She was supposed to refuse you for you having beaten up the auctioneer. You were supposed to beat her down in response and take her bracers. And she is supposed to escape via mediporter with the diamond still in her possession, but not her bracers.) Edited Monday at 11:53 PM by Rudra
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