Balancethegame

Equally skilled and given the same opportunities, the meta build wins, that's why it's called meta right?

It's less of a power fantasy if there are no overpowered powersets, wouldn't you agree? So it seems we are on the same side. I don't want to be in the power fantasy either.

Experienced, hardcore PvPer with Meta build > (more powerful than) an experienced, hardcore PvPer without meta build If meta builds exist, then the above statement can exist also. If the above statement can exist, then by removing meta builds through balancing, you can minimize the effectiveness of the former variable in a PvP context.

Arrogant and pathetic.

It would TAKE AWAY from the certain advantages that hardcore PvPers have by selecting META builds, through the balancing of the powersets, would it not?

How arrogant.

Then you should stop playing childish games as well, bro.

You know what? You are right, it is how it is. And it's how it was 10 years ago. And it probably will be, based on everyone's responses here. But that doesn't make it RIGHT or FAIR or BALANCED.

And you cannot provide LOGIC to explain WHY.

These four factors you stated, experience, skill, resources, or teammates, these are ACCEPTABLE. They are acceptable BECAUSE they do not necessarily rely on having a powerset imbalance. Eliminating powerset imbalances would open the door to PvP and make it more enjoyable, take away from the hardcore PvPers that crunch numbers to gain unfair advantages through meta builds.

"PvP players don't care about themes" Subjective opinion, blanket statement. I am a PvP player, (also a PvE player) that cares about themes.

Ah, but my good friend, I NEVER SAID THAT. Or at least if I did, I take it back. But please, search my post history and prove me wrong on that one if you can. And the point I made, So long as there are discussions and suggestions for nerfs and buffs and which build is best, you cannot say that the game is balanced.

See this is the wonderful Subjective opinion, subjective opinion. I am for order and balance, you are for chaos. May as well play the JOKER builds.

So long as there are discussions and suggestions for nerfs and buffs and which build is best, you cannot say that the game is balanced. PROVE ME WRONG.

And I've yet to hear a GOOD reason why not.

It does not lock out anyone, true, but it certainly makes it less fun and appealing knowing that your electric/electric blaster stands little chance against some of the better meta builds out there, wouldn't you agree?

While there are people asking about which build is the best, etc then you CANNOT say the game is balanced.

Let's not forget your wonderful signature. How INcredible is that?

100 point single target rotation damage difference clearly and OBJECTIVELY defined in my post above.

The data is available for all to see when making a character. You can clearly get a good idea that fire blasters would easily dominate in PvP based on the DPAs alone. Fire Blaster Single Target Rotation (4 powers from the main set) Damage = 633 Activation Time = 7 seconds Endurance Cost = 34 Electric Single Target Rotation Damage = 508 Activation Time = 7 seconds Endurance Cost = 33 Edit I believe this is PvE data actually.

But that makes PvP less accessible, not more. Because if there are competitive sets for PvP, then that means the effectiveness of the other sets is lesser. So now you lock out several people from the PvP race.

Because of THEMES. By contrast, imagine if the origins all had different stats. And MAGIC happened to be the most powerful, because let's face it - it would be and usually is. Or imagine if the HUGE body set did more physical damage than the average body set.

MOO MOO PVP BAD. MOO.

Alright genius. Here is my logic: Making powersets more similar in terms of damage and losing the focus on mitigation for blasters = blasters dont worry about the numbers behind the powersets or which one is better or worse than the other, they pick the powerset that they like based on theme = blasters focus more on what they are meant for, DAMAGE DEALING NOT MITIGATION.

Yep keep laughing. In fact, it was so funny that the game shut down all those years ago. And it's no wonder, because nobody had the proper vision of making this game the master piece it should be. PvP whether you like it or not, is something that MANY people would enjoy doing, and enjoy it more were it more balanced. I could take snipes at all you PvErs but I enjoy PvE also, I don't hate it. That's the difference between being a knucklehead and being grounded in reason, being able to see above the trees.