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Just something in my head bio/elc more a concept thing than anything

Working on a build concept but I have zero idea about bio anyone have any slotting examples or a link? thx

never done bio no clue about it 😛

Does that look good now?

Im working on my earth/storm now.....still need a good build. But loving the combo.

ok how is this This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Shield Defense Secondary Power Set: Electrical Melee Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Deflection (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (3) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 1: Charged Brawl (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 2: Battle Agility (A) Red Fortune - Defense (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance Level 4: True Grit (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (11) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist (11) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance (15) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 6: Jacobs Ladder (A) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage (13) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Recharge (15) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (17) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (17) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech (19) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff Level 8: Active Defense (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Against All Odds (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 12: Phalanx Fighting (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 14: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (23) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 16: Thunder Strike (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) (19) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (23) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (25) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (25) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 18: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (29) Recharge Reduction IO Level 20: Grant Cover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 22: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff Level 24: Boxing (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff Level 26: Shield Charge (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (34) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (34) Armageddon - Damage (34) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (36) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge Level 28: Tough (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (36) Aegis - Resistance (36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (37) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (37) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Chain Induction (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb (39) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (39) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 32: Weave (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (40) Shield Wall - Endurance/Recharge (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (42) Shield Wall - Defense (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 35: Lightning Clap (A) Force Feedback - Recharge/Endurance (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (50) Force Feedback - Accuracy/Knockback Level 38: Lightning Rod (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (43) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (45) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge (45) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 41: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 44: Focused Accuracy (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 47: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 49: One with the Shield (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Sprint

1st time doing this on my own This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Shield Defense Secondary Power Set: Electrical Melee Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Deflection (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (3) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 1: Charged Brawl (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 2: Battle Agility (A) Red Fortune - Defense (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance Level 4: True Grit (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (11) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist (11) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance (15) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 6: Jacobs Ladder (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (15) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (17) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (17) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 8: Active Defense (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Against All Odds (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 12: Phalanx Fighting (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 14: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (23) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 16: Thunder Strike (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (23) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (25) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage (25) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Recharge (27) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech Level 18: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (29) Recharge Reduction IO Level 20: Grant Cover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 22: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance Level 24: Boxing (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff Level 26: Shield Charge (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb (33) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime Level 28: Tough (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (36) Aegis - Resistance (36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (37) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (37) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Chain Induction (A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (39) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (39) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (39) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Weave (A) Red Fortune - Endurance (40) Red Fortune - Defense (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (42) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 35: Lightning Clap (A) Force Feedback - Recharge/Endurance (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 38: Lightning Rod (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (45) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (45) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (45) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (46) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 41: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 44: Focused Accuracy (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 47: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (50) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self (50) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 49: One with the Shield (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Sprint

have to find/trytomake a build for that...seems electrifying 😄 lol

sounds interesting

Curious, I dont want to PL, rush, any of that. just wondering what people would think would be the funnest?

For some reason Im all hard thinking of the carnies and my stoner...get it? 😄 I was so happy to see this game back. WIsh they had the exact same game with upgraded graphics. BUT I am not complaining. Simply saying and if they did it might draw more people Now that my stoner can make muh money (slowly right now) Im gonna figure out the funnest toon to level the old fashion way

OHHHH yes and tyvm you are my hero...or villian if you prefer... 😄

O M GI have to learn??? GEEZ FINE...Ill go do that now 😄

damnit

Anyone have a few hundred million I could borrow until the 7th tuesday of next month? 😄

Where at? Here is another This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Stone Armor Secondary Power Set: Spines Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Teleportation Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Stone Skin (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (25) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (25) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (27) Impervium Armor - Resistance Level 1: Barb Swipe (A) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (3) Hecatomb - Damage (5) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (7) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (7) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge Level 2: Earth's Embrace (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (5) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal Level 4: Rock Armor (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 6: Spine Burst (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (11) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (17) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (19) Armageddon - Damage (21) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 8: Rooted (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance (9) Doctored Wounds - Heal Level 10: Mud Pots (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) (15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (17) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 12: Boxing (A) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance (21) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 14: Combat Teleport (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 16: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 18: Ripper (A) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Recharge (27) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech (29) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (29) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 20: Brimstone Armor (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (33) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 22: Tough (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (23) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance (23) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 24: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO Level 26: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance Level 28: Minerals (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 30: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (31) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 32: Granite Armor (A) Aegis - Resistance (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (39) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 35: Quills (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (37) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 38: Throw Spines (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (40) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (46) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage Level 41: Gloom (A) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Apocalypse - Damage (42) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge Level 44: Dark Obliteration (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (45) Ragnarok - Damage (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (46) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge Level 47: Summon Widow (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (48) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Endurance (48) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage (50) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge (50) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Recharge Level 49: Crystal Armor (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl

anybody? ;D ok ok im done 😛

ok here is my newest build...thanks for the advice This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Stone Armor Secondary Power Set: Spines Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Teleportation Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Stone Skin (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (25) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (25) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 1: Barb Swipe (A) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (3) Hecatomb - Damage (5) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (7) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (7) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge Level 2: Earth's Embrace (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration (5) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Recharge (31) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (34) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 4: Rock Armor (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 6: Spine Burst (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (17) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (19) Armageddon - Damage (21) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge Level 8: Rooted (A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge (9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance (9) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal (13) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Mud Pots (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) (15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (17) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 12: Boxing (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff (21) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (23) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (23) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge (42) Absolute Amazement - Stun (45) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge Level 14: Combat Teleport (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 16: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge (31) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 18: Ripper (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (27) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (29) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (29) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage (31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 20: Brimstone Armor (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 22: Tough (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (27) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance Level 24: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO Level 26: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (36) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance Level 28: Minerals (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (34) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5% Level 30: Impale (A) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (34) Apocalypse - Damage (37) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (39) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge Level 32: Granite Armor (A) Aegis - Resistance (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 35: Quills (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge (42) Multi-Strike - Damage/Endurance (43) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance (43) Multi-Strike - Damage/Recharge (45) Multi-Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Multi-Strike - Accuracy/Damage Level 38: Throw Spines (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range Level 41: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (48) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (50) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (50) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5% Level 44: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 47: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 49: Crystal Armor (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl

I thought about bio myself but I just cant understand the concept. Of course i never really played it

You guys are the greatest! Have I told you that recently?

Up to 22 now. Going good so far if anyone has a build I can see i would greatly appreciate it Thanks have a wonderful day

Already doing claws/energy just need a build now. Already level 10. im l33t....in my mind...;P

And Dirty Kitty is born and on his path to...ah...superness? I shall beg and plead for a build now....ok...was that enough? 😄

Yeah got a concept in mind for my kitty build. Claws/Energy. Time for a build and a test drive

Let me know. Im leaning Claws. Also I know I ask for a lot of builds. if it is too much by all means tell me to stop. I dont mind Im married im used to it. Just cant get a feel for what i truly want to play. I loved scrappers before WAY back in the day my very first 50 was spines/invul never played claws. Plus all the new mechanics Im a noob again.