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This is helpful. I know Psi insight is pretty wonky. I was just thinking Shield Charge + Mass Levitate would be a nice combo.

These are all good points. MA on a Brute or Tanker is pretty sweet. Rad Armor seems like it can be argued for either Brute or Scrapper. Elec Armor feels like it’s just flat out better on a Brute. Between Kat/Rad and Kat/Elec, which do you like?

Haha so you’re saying BS/SD would have your vote? I don’t mind the KM sound effects. For Psi, what do you mean? I’ll most likely find it underwhelming? Good to know for the Kat/Rad. Out of the extra damage or extra surviability, which would you value more? I.e. which would scale better for harder content?

I thought that at first, but than I noticed the extra damage buff Meltdown gets on Scrappers. Also, I hear Katana shines on Scrappers. How do you like Katana on Brutes? I was thinking Katana/Elec Armor could be a great Brute.

I do agree with this. Some cool costume options.

In helping me choose my next Scrapper! Options: Kinetic Melee/Ice Armor Katana/Rad Armor Psi Melee/Shield Broad Sword/Shield

Do you take the KM T9? What powers do you slot the KM ATO's in?

This.

This was nice to hear, thanks Someguy. How do you feel KM performs on a Scrapper compared to a Stalker or Tanker? Apparently Stalkers get that 100% crit on Burst from hide, which is nice. My thoughts are the Scrapper ATO's might pull them ahead.

I have a concept in mind that involves Kinetic Melee. I know, I know... Many don't care for it and say it is lower damage. I just know the animations. Anyways, I'm hoping to take a secondary that can shore up some of it's weaknesses. These are the ones I have in mind: Ice Armor: Chilling Embrace has -dmg, which stacks nicely with KM. Icy Bastion is an awesome T9 and I can rotate between that and Shadow Meld. Shield: Just seems very sturdy. AAO can boost damage, and shield charge is cool. Rad Armor: Brings two AOE's, and Meltdown is a good T9 with an extra damage boost on Scrappers. Dark Armor: Dark seems to have a lot of tools, and is usually pretty strong when kitted out. Would love to hear anyone's thoughts.

Sold!!! 😂 I did like how much that power pair seemed to bring to the table. I’m sure there is some build here on the forums I can use as a base.

Hey all, Going to start leveling a Defender with some friends. 3-4 of us in the group. Want to invest in a Defender that is good for a smaller group like this, but will also be great for endgame content like iTrials/Aeon/ stuff like that. I've narrowed it down to either Thermal/Ice or Elec/Elec. Between those 2, are there any suggestions?

Was KM's ability to AOE crit with Burst from Hide removed?

Good advice! I also think Kinetic Melee looks AWESOME, but I hear it is a low performing set (apparently on Scrappers at least). It might be decent on a Brute with ramping fury, or a Tanker who is using it more for Aggro.

Thank you. Katana/Elec seem like they could be a cool match. I just read that Katana is way better on scrappers and Elec is way better on Brutes… so I’m torn.

Funnily enough, my friend used your CEBR build for his brute. Since he did claws, I want to switch it up. What other primaries would your pair with an Elec Armor Brute?

Fair enough 😂😂😂

Didn’t even think about the overcapping on a Tanker. Great point

So a friend of mine and I were talking. He knows I’m really interested in Electric Armor and suggested, if I do run it, that I should on a Brute. However, he couldn’t really give me any details as to why it pairs best with Brute 😂 so I thought I’d ask: - What makes Electric Armor so good on Brutes? Ability to hit resistance softcaps? Damage aura for Fury? I do like that it provides protection against endurance drain. I read on here somewhere that Elec Armor is great for iTrials. - What primaries pair well with it? My buddy has a Claws/Electric Brute, which seems great, but I’d want to do something different. Street Justice, Katana and Psi Melee both stood out to me, but I’d love to hear what works nicely with Electric Armor.

I was thinking this. I just know Ice works great with Scourge, so that might mush Corruptor's ahead. But Ice is also proc friendly, which could be great on a Defender. As for the values, does anyone know the value changes for Thermal from Defender to Corruptor, or where I can find them? For example, I know the value for Sleet in Cold is the same for both of them, making it fit nicely on a Corruptor since you don't lose much.

Howdy all! After playing with creator, I decided I love the aesthetics of this combo. I’m just torn on whether to do it on a Corruptor or Defender! Defender: Pros - Higher debuff and buff modifiers. Higher defensive modifiers, so easier to hit soft caps. Opens up the option to proc out more of Ice Blast’s attacks. Can close the damage gap a bit. Defender ATO adds an additional heal to an Ice Blast Attack. Corruptor: Pros - Moarrrrr damage. Scourge works well with ice’s rains. Corruptor ATO can be split up into sets of 3 for some extra recharge. The only negative I can really think of is that Thermal doesn’t really have any CC tools to keep baddies on Ice’s rains. I’m not sure if Ice’s rains are good enough at slowing enemies for that. The only other secondaries I’ve thought of that MIGHT replace Ice Blast are Sonic and Dark. Please let me know your thought/suggestions!

Some people mentioned Elec Affinity. How would an Elec/Elec Defender fair in iTrials? Thermal seems interesting as well. How do they compare for tough content?

That is fair. I’ll probably only have the resources for one hero, so I want to go all in. Ice/Cold seems wonderful as well, the lack of a heal makes me think it won’t solo as well for tough content. BUT I could see it being the superior choice with a full team backing it up.

Very helpful, thank you. On the Ice/Dark vs Water/Dark, would you say the Ice/Dark would be a bit more optimal since the 2 heals would be redundant? Water seems to have nice knockdown, but the slows from ice and hold (now that you mention it) could work nicely with Tar Pit.

Also, would you agree on the statement that Water Blast would be lacking in the single target damage for tough targets (AV’s), and that Ice will just be flat out better there?