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8 minutes ago, Veracor said:
...not bid on your own items
That probably includes items that share inventory.
Practical example: I got a crafted, Level 50 PvP IO that I don't want, because I use Attuned. So I list the crafted IO then bid on the same attuned one. Since they share inventory, that might count as "bidding on your own item".
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This is a picture of all yellows cleared, blues halfway down, and all greens up.
6 green mitos x 4 blooms = 24 green mitos
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Hamidon Taunter Role
Being the Hamidon Taunter can be done by any melee class if they have Taunt and enough external support. But sometimes multiple characters for this single role can be difficult to organize, and the more players are involved with this, the less they'll be contributing to the raid overall.
In an ideal scenario, ONE player should be able to take care of Hamidon without needing any external attention.
Certain ATs and power combinations make it easier to taunt Hamidon without the need of external buffs, and a couple of them are even able to do it without external buffs -and- without EoEs.
Let's understand what happens to whoever is taunting Hamidon:
- They will be hit by green beams. They cause unresistable regeneration debuffs that, when stacked, are enough to bring regeneration to zero even with multiple regeneration buffs. They also apply -Healing Received which makes heals less effective on the target (to the point that they don't work at all). And finally, they also deal a heavy Toxic DoT, which can kill the taunter even through EoEs if they don't have toxic resists or absorb shields.
- They will be hit by blue bolts. Their endurance will be drained, their recovery reduced, they will have their recharge and movement slowed, and they may be terrorized.
- They will be hit by yellow blasts. They may be stunned and knocked back, and suffer heavy Special damage, including a DoT.
- They will be hit by Hamidon, which does all of the above at some level. Some debuffs from Hamidon last for around 70 seconds, and a Hamidon tank will usually have 20 stacks of them (most notably, -Healing Received and -Regeneration) over the course of the raid.
So a strong, self-capable Hamidon taunter needs the following:
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Endurance Drain Resistance (Critical).
- Blue attacks directly damage the target's endurance points in addition of a recovery debuff. Two different things, but fortunately, some armor sets offer both debuff resistances together.
- Recovery alone is often not enough to counter this, unless it's really, really high (Ageless Destiny, for instance).
- Ageless Radial gives debuff resistances, which includes endurance drain resistance.
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Slow Resistance (Critical)
- Some armor sets offer this, while the rest can be attained with Winter IOs.
- This will also prevent heals from becoming unusable due to too many recharge debuffs from blues and Hamidon.
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Self Heals (Critical to most builds)
- Most armor and melee sets offer healing that is unresistable, and therefore not affected by -Healing Received debuffs.
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Toxic Resistance (Critical to builds without Absorb)
- This allows the taunter to resist green beam damage and not die with an EoE active.
- It is possible to earn great amounts of toxic resistance with purple IO sets (30% max). Other non-purple sets also offer varying amounts.
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Extra Stun Protection/Resistance
- Sometimes the Hami taunter will be briefly stunned when many yellows are attacking them. Depending on your powerset choices, this can suppress many vital toggles and the cascade effect can be fatal.
- Melee Hybrid (mez protection), Clarion Destiny (mez protection) and Control Hybrid (mez resistance) are the Incarnate choices for this.
- Many IO sets give mez resists as well.
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MaxHP and Absorb
- Having lots of HP allows the taunter to survive for longer until enough greens are defeated and the taunter can regain some regeneration.
- Absorb shields will stop the toxic damage from greens, but not the special damage from yellows, blues, and Hamidon.
- Having MaxHP + Absorb allows certain builds to better rely on regeneration, and make self-healing and toxic resists less needed.
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Additional Knockback Protection
- When the Hami taunter is briefly stunned, mez protection may be briefly suppressed.
- This may cause a KB chain on the taunter that would be difficult to recover from, specially if the taunter is slowed.
- This includes all armor powersets that offer KB protection+resistance, as all that resistance may be suppressed while stunned.
- KB protection from Acrobatics is suppressed while mezzed as well.
- KB protection from IO sets is not suppressed while mezzed.
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Terrorize Protection/Resistance
- Only a few armor sets offer this, and they often don't have the other critical requirements.
- Blue mito attacks cause fear/terrorize, which may disrupt your initial traveling to the nucleus and your taunting chain.
- Tactics helps with Terrorize resistance, as well as Clarion Destiny and Melee Hybrid.
Base Buffs offer many helpful 1-hour-long buffs for minimal cost (white salvage), the most important being: KB protection (10tps), Recovery Debuff Resistance, Slow Resistance, Stun Resistance, Fear Resistance, and Toxic Resistance.
Below is a matrix of requirements per Armor set (numbers for Tankers unless otherwise specified):
Armor Set Self Heal Toxic
ResistanceSlow
ResistanceTerrorize
ProtectionEndurance Drain
ResistanceStun
ResistanceKB
Protection
Notes Radiation Armor Yes
(Slow)
50%
(Enhanceable)
45%
(Toggle)
No 86%
(Auto)
Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Toggle)
High resists
Debuff protection on auto powers
Has Absorb
Low Max HP
* Top set
Bio Armor Yes
(Slow)(Can miss)
25%
(Enhanceable)
30%
(Auto)
No 86%
(Auto)
Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Toggle)
High Max HP
High resistsHas Absorb
Debuff protection on auto powers* Top set
Dark Armor Yes
(Can miss)20%
(Enhanceable)
No
Yes 86%
(Toggle)
Normal
(Toggle)
No Heal is strong and fast but can miss
Low Max HPGood set but difficult to build
Debuff protection on toggles (can suppress)
If stunned, goes down fast
Regeneration
(Brutes only)
Yes
(+MaxHP)
(Multiple)15%
(Enhanceable)
(Stackable)
No No No High
(Resilience)
(Taunt)
Yes
(Toggle)
Need to offset endurance drain w/ Incarnates or temps
Moment of Glory is a good alpha soaker (mez prot, recovery)
Stone Armor Yes
(+MaxHP)
(Very Slow)
20%
(From Heal)
No No 86%
(Toggle)
High
(Granite)Yes
(Toggle)
Heal is Earth's Embrace
Has high amounts of Stun protection w/ GraniteCan take alpha without Melee Hybrid
Electric Armor Yes
(Slow)
No 40%
(Auto)
No 86+129%
(Auto)
Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Auto)
(Ground)
Immune to end drain
Low Max HPKB protection requires being on ground
No innate toxic resists make this set very hard to build
Willpower No 7.5%
(Enhanceable)
No Yes No Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Toggle)
Need to offset endurance drain w/ Incarnates or temps
Lacks a self healFiery Aura Yes 20%
(Enhanceable)
(Stackable)
*
20%
(Auto)
No 50%
(Stackable)
*Normal
(Toggle)
No Strong heal
Difficult to build
Low Max HP* Needs preparation before launch (stacking Healing Flames and Consume)
Ice Armor Yes
(+MaxHP)
(Very Slow)
20%
(Enhanceable)
100%+
(Auto)
No No Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Toggle)
Immune to slows
Need to offset endurance drain w/ Incarnates or tempsHeal is Hoarfrost
Invulnerability Yes
(+MaxHP)
(Very Slow)
20%
(Enhanceable)
20%
(Auto)
No
25%
(Auto)
Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Toggle)
Heal is Dull Pain
Low Endurance Drain resistsShield Defense No 15%
(Enhanceable)
30%
(Toggle)
Yes No High
(Click)
Yes
(Click)
Need to offset endurance drain w/ Incarnates or temps
Lacks a self healSuper Reflexes No Very Low
(Low HP)
40%
(Auto)
No No High
(Click)
Yes
(Click)
Low Max HP
Need to offset endurance drain w/ Incarnates or temps
Lacks a self healEnergy Aura
(Brutes only)Yes
(Slow)
7%
(Enhanceable)
20% No 25% Normal
(Toggle)
Yes
(Toggle)
Low Max HP
Heal is a bit too slow (around 30s slotted)Contrary to popular belief, regeneration is not as important in a Hamidon taunter build. Green beams will debuff regeneration so much that it won't matter that you have every self regen power possible running (i.e., Instant Healing + Melee Hybrid + Rebirth) and your final regeneration will still be zero for most of the raid. Regeneration only has a positive effect if you're taunting Hami from range (which brings its own sets of problems) and/or you have external buffs. But again, we're looking into ways to be a more independent Hamidon taunter. If enough green aggro is diverted from the Hami tank, or when enough greens are down, then they are able to have some regeneration on their own, but it's advisable not to count on it, and that regeneration window can be brief (until the next bloom).
The best melee set for this role is Dark Melee. Siphon Life is an unresistable heal that is up often (but can miss). But it is possible to have any other melee set and be a good Hami tank if your armor set is good enough. It's also possible to offset armor set deficiencies (like lack of healing) by having a heal in the melee set. Radiation Melee also has a self heal, but the target needs to be in Contaminated state for the heal to proc. The heal is best used after Devastating Blow, since it has a 100% Contaminated chance on hit.
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You've reached the end of the guide. Thanks for reading this far, and if you find any errors, kindly let me know.
Acknowledgements to Elmyder, Veracor, gchpaco, Sue, ROBOKiTTY and crew, and all the daily Hamidon raiders on Everlasting.See you all in the Hive/Abyss!
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Targeter Roles
Targeters have additional responsibility for ensuring smooth runs -- it's not just about having a bunch of people following you around while you point at targets of your choice. A poor targeter can slow things down considerably, and even cause additional problems if they're not paying attention.
There are certain things a Targeter needs to keep in mind at all times:
- You'll have several people following you around and attacking your target. Use this power responsibly.
- A dead targeter is no targeter. While you can still select targets, you can't be at them. Don't die.
- Make sure your followers know what to do and ensure that they actually follow you. Take care of your team.
How does the above translate to an actual game plan?
- Don't die = use EoEs proactively (before you actually need them). That means you no longer have the luxury of saving up your EoEs. You should at least pop an EoE after launch, and another after bloom. Do not wait to be damaged. Three simultaneous blasts from yellows is enough to kill any squishy class without EoEs before you can even think about using them (and you'll probably be stunned anyway).
- Use this power responsibly = do NOT keep targeting Hamidon past the 75% HP call. If you do, you may contribute to cause a double-bloom.
- Take care of your team = give them quick instructions from time to time. A melee targeter can send a short message on the league channels asking for the melee characters to attack their target after a bloom. Upon launch, a ranged targeter can quickly remind their followers about only using single-target damage on blues. A control targeter can remind their followers to use holds as well as damage on greens. And so on. Make sure to use league/broadcast chat for this, and not team chat. Many of your followers may be outside of your team.
It also helps that all targeters go the same direction around Hamidon. On Everlasting, all targeters go clockwise. This helps with consistency and also prevents people from getting lost on what the next target is. If they get the first target correctly, they'll know what the next ones will be more easily.
Below are some tips for each role.
Melee Targeter
This is the hardest targeter role. Yellows are placed in the outermost area of the goo. They're the farthest from each other, and it takes a bit of time to get to the next one as they go down.
It is difficult to auto-follow a melee targeter in this scenario due to flight momentum. Say you're a follower, and the targeter may stop close to a yellow, and if you're auto-following, you may fly past them (and drift away) which may land you too far from the yellow target and few/none of your attacks will activate. So followers should be doing some manual movement, and the targeter can instruct them to do so.
Another tip is to actually instruct them to not auto-follow, but ask them to attack their first target. They can target the yellow mitos themselves: the first target (upon launch or after a bloom) being decided by the targeter; the next ones, by just moving clockwise. Each follower can then target the next yellow clockwise then hit F. This fixes the issues with flight momentum and often results in a faster yellow clearing (if all melee attackers are doing their jobs).
After all yellows are down, the melee targeter will move to the current green target to "induce" their followers to attack that green. Same rules as following yellows apply here as well.
Ranged Targeter
This is the easiest targeter role. If you're looking into becoming a targeter, I suggest starting here.
Followers can auto-follow the targeter and focus their efforts on activating the best single-target DPS possible as well as not dying (by using EoEs). If the ranged targeter is good/experienced, they won't need to do manual movement at all.
The best approach for the ranged targeter is to place themselves between two blues and attack the one behind them (in the anticlockwise direction). Once that blue goes down, the targeter quickly switches to the blue in front of them. This warrants close to 100% damage uptime from all your followers and greatly speeds up blue clearing. After damage starts on the next blue, the targeter then moves to the next position (between two blues) and repeats the process. This also has the benefit of staying in a range that short-ranged attacks will work, including all Sentinel attacks.
The ranged targeter should not get close to blues. Endurance drain and terrorize-lock can be disruptive for some ranged classes. If they aren't buffed, their endurance will quickly drop, rendering them useless. Blues also deal Special damage, which means quite a bit of damage if attackers don't have EoEs on.
Unlike the melee targeter, after all blues are down, the ranged targeter will just move to the current green target and do all the targeting from there on until all greens are defeated, just like with blues. Ranged followers will keep doing what they were doing on blues, additionally using any holds if available.
Despite being the easiest role, the ranged targeter poses the higher risk of causing a double-bloom due to the large amount of players auto-following them. So they should pay close attention to the "bloom" call and detarget Hamidon quickly enough so that all the targeted-through damage isn't too much.
Control Targeter
This role is quite simple but requires patience. Green killing essentially requires that all control characters focus on a single target. If followers aren't listening, green clearing can take forever. It is not uncommon that the first green mito is still alive after all blues are cleared because the control players are unfocused.
Another situation is that the control team successfully breaks the green shield, but is unable to kill the green due to healing from other greens. This happens if the control characters are not using damage between holds.
As with blue targeting, the control targeter can be auto-followed. They will usually move themselves (and all their followers) into melee range of the current green target, so Dominators can use their melee attacks.
The control targeter must also be aware that one specific green can spawn very high in the air and be easily missed in the rotation. This can cause leaguemates to start attacking Hamidon before all greens are down.
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Roles By AT
Depending on your AT and power choices, you can perform better at a certain role.
Tankers and Brutes with Taunt
- You are best at taunting yellows.
A "Taunter" is either a Tanker or a Brute with Taunt. Their primary role is to use Taunt from distance to draw the AoE blasts away from the melee team and the rest of the league. Taunters should not melee yellows for the purposes of taunting -- this causes double damage on any melee character that approaches that yellow. Taunters should not try to use ranged attacks on yellows, as they will be evaded and not contribute to taunting.
After all yellows are down, Taunters should help with greens, using holds (if they have any) and damage. (Some melee attacks are also holds, like Knockout Blow.) They should not be trying to taunt greens (greens have 100% taunt resistance). Just standing next to a green is enough to draw their aggro.
If there are too many Taunters, the overflow Tankers/Brutes can act as melee characters, and should avoid using Taunt during the raid. See Scrappers / Stalkers section.
Scrappers / Stalkers / Tankers and Brutes without Taunt
- If you have enough KB Protection and Resistance, you are best at attacking yellows.
- If you don't have KB Protection but have some ST ranged attacks, you are best at attacking blues.
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If you don't have KB Protection and don't have any ST ranged attacks, you are best at attacking greens.
- Most Fire Farmers fall under this category.
Yellow mitos deal a huge amount of Knockback, both in their ranged attacks and in their damage aura. They can quickly overwhelm most characters without KB resistance (which is different from KB protection). Most KB protection powers from armor sets also give KB resistance. KB resistance helps reduce the KB magnitude dealt by the yellow pulses and attacks. Not all KB protection powers give KB resistance. Some examples:
- Grounded (Electric Armor): only gives KB protection and doesn't work while airborne. Since we attack yellow mitos in the air, this power ends up giving zero KB protection for this purpose.
- Acrobatics (Leaping Pool): only gives KB protection and even after slotting with KB IOs it's not enough (alone) to withstand the high KB magnitude dealt by yellow pulses.
- Some armor powersets (e.g., Dark Armor, Fire Armor) don't offer KB protection at all.
- KB protection coming from IO sets do not give KB resistance.
- Evasive Maneuvers gives a good amount of KB resistance while flying.
The amount of KB protection a melee attacker needs to have, without KB resistance, to be able sustain the damage pulses from yellows, is at least 16 points. Players without KB resistance can reach that amount of protection with IO sets and/or Acrobatics.
Without KB protection, any melee character that attempts to attack yellow mitos will flip midair and be pushed back. Whenever they try to close in, they'll flip again. And again. They'll barely land any attack to be actually useful as part of the melee team. That's why they get a ranged role if they have single-target ranged attacks. And if they don't, their damage can help kill greens once their barriers are down -- and sometimes, even while they're up.
Taunters without KB protection that are on taunting duty will be knocked back, but they're still able to land some taunts on their targets between flipping midair or falling on their backs.
If your primary powerset doesn't offer KB protection, remember that you can get it from Incarnate powers such as Clarion Destiny and Melee Hybrid, as well as IO sets, and Inspirations (Break Frees).
Blasters / Sentinels / Corruptors / Defenders
- You are best at attacking blues.
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If you have positional-less attacks and the melee team needs more damage, you can help on yellows before moving on to greens.
- E.g., Dominate does not have either Melee, Ranged, or AoE flags, therefore hits yellows.
Ranged characters with holds should still focus on blues first. Even if they have holds, the ranged team will eventually converge with the Control Team to kill greens quickly.
Sentinels have reduced range. They need to pay attention to the ranged targeter: if they are too far from the target, the Sentinel needs to move closer. Conscious ranged targeters will be considerate about this and attack from a range where everyone can be effective, without getting too close and dying terribly from full end drain and terrorize-lock.
Healing should be secondary. Corruptors and Defenders get less from their heals on auto than doing damage instead, mostly due to debuffs going around caused by green beams. Buffs are good to go any time during mito clearing.
Controllers / Dominators
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You are best at holding greens.
- Greens will go down faster by dealing damage between holds.
It's a common misconception most control players have that the sole damage from their holds will be able to kill greens once their shields go down. But most of the time, other greens will heal it up faster than most Containment/Domination damage can keep up. Tossing damage in-between allows the control team to be able to kill greens without external help.
Controller/Dominator pets are somewhat useless because they can't follow orders, but they can be used as cannon fodder for green beams, redirecting them away from the Hamidon taunter and other leaguemates. They have a tendency to pester the main nucleus, which is usually not a problem, except if it's Phantasm as they have a chance of stealing aggro away from the Hami taunter. Phantom Army should be used with caution, specially if the Hami taunter is inexperienced or doesn't have enough Threat slotted in their Taunt.
Masterminds
- You are best at distracting greens.
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If you have Group Fly, you can attack greens or blues depending on the melee/ranged aspect of your primary powerset.
- E.g., Beasts are best on greens (they can't attack blues or yellows), Mercenaries can attack blues, etc.
- Mixed sets can stick to greens.
Masterminds are the hardest AT to play in Hamidon raids. Their HP is too low so they can die fast to green damage, they can be killed very fast without EoEs, and keeping Bodyguard up can be challenging without some heavy micromanaging.
Moving around the goo without Group Fly is often challenging. E.g., if they're following the ranged targeter, as the targeter moves around, pets will always land next to Hamidon as they attack the next blue, which will cause them to die from Hamidon AoEs. Micromanaging pets to move away from Hamidon before they attack the next blue is a slow process and mostly not worth the trouble. Having Group Fly allows the pets to stay closer to you more often, and away from Hamidon. Melee pets should be given extra attention, as they have a tendency to attack Hamidon even with Group Fly on, while other ranged pets can stay further away from Hami to prevent that.
Distracting greens can be helpful. It allows the Hamidon tanker to better handle incoming green damage, and it also protects other raiders from green damage as not everyone has toxic resistances. But how to distract greens properly? Usually, before launch and bloom, the Mastermind can move away from the goo and bring their pets close to them (using Follow), then order the pets to attack the last green in the rotation. Find out which green mito the control targeter initially selects on launch/bloom, then the "last green" will be the one to the opposite direction (in other words, if the targeter is going clockwise, go counterclockwise to find the last mito). The pets will then begin attacking that green until all other mitos are down. The MM themselves can go on about doing other things, like helping ranged teams, or buffing other raiders. As that green will likely be the last to be killed, the damage from pets may make other greens try to heal it, causing other mitos to be not healed, and also cause the attacked green to attack the pets instead of the Hamidon tank or other players. Pets may die from toxic damage but that's okay. Just resummon then before bloom and repeat the process.
How about yellows? There are certain conditions that allow pure melee pets (like Beasts) to do great damage to yellows. However, that depends on pets having Knockback+Stun protection, which only a few sets can provide, like Trick Arrow or Electric Affinity (with their AoE mez protection bubbles). Without those, even with Group Fly, when a pet is knocked back, it falls to the ground (instead of flipping midair), which causes DPS to drop significantly. So unless you can sort of guarantee KB and stun protection to your pets, the recommendation would be not trying to take on yellows.
Finally, keep in mind that pets should not be allowed to roam freely in Aggressive Mode. They'll almost always end up attacking Hamidon, which does not help with raid progress at all.
Peacebringers / Warshades
- If you have melee attacks and enough KB/stun protection, you can attack yellows.
- Otherwise, and if you have ranged attacks or Bright/Dark Nova, you are best at attacking blues.
- If you have Dwarf Form, you can double as a yellow taunter.
HEATs do a bit of everything but very poorly. A "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" type of AT. Human-only builds suffer the most from this.
Light Form offers very little mez protection (only 3 points) to be able to sustain yellow damage auras. (They also cause mini heart attacks on all healers in the league whenever their buffs expire.) They can offset KB protection with IOs, but additional stun protection must come from external buffs or Incarnate powers. It's also impossible to melee yellows reliably in Dwarf Form since it cannot fly, unless a teammate provides Group Fly.
Gravity Well and Incandescent Strike are holds that can be used against greens.
Arachnos Soldiers / Widows
In the following order:
- If you have melee attacks and enough KB/stun protection, you can attack yellows.
- Otherwise, if you have ranged attacks, you are best at attacking blues.
- Otherwise, if you have holds, you can help with holding/damaging greens.
VEATs are actually very versatile in raids and can fill multiple roles better. Their buff auras (Tactics and Assault variants) can improve their teams' damage and resistance to terrorize effects from blues.
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It seems that Sentinel's Beam Rifle attacks will start firing from the leg if you pick an Epic with a weapon (such as Ninja Tool Mastery).
All attacks in the set are affected, even AoEs.
Also affects the power preview in the costume editor.
Once you get one power (doesn't need to be a weapon attack), your character will be bugged forever even if you respec out of the Epic.
(Thanks Just-K from the Discord for the info.)
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[Reconstruction] power from Stalker > Willpower does not accept Resistance sets, but it does accept normal Resistance IOs and SOs.
The original power from Regeneration does accept Resistance sets, so hopefully this is an oversight?
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Teleportation:
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Recall Friend, Teleport Foe, Teleport Team, Long Range Teleport:
- Cast times are too long. I'd reduce everything considerably.
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Teleport:
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Current cast time is too long; should be at least as good as Jaunt, activation-time-wise.
- Motivation: a power pool that specializes in teleport should be the king of teleport. How come Jaunt is better overall?
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Could have different customization options, including current Teleport, Jaunt, and Burst of Speed animations/effects
- Random Observation: Burst of Speed does sound like an attack that belongs to the Teleport pool.
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Current cast time is too long; should be at least as good as Jaunt, activation-time-wise.
Concealment:
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Invisiblity:
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Revert changes done in HC.
- Previously it had Only Affects Self flag and kept the defense bonus in combat, being much more useful for scouting.
- The current changes make combat worse by providing no benefit (since they all suppress) and still draining endurance.
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Revert changes done in HC.
Flight:
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Fly:
- My favorite travel power.
- Could have customization options that change the default flying animation.
- I'd improve max flight speed by a small amount, to make it more appealing compared to P2W jetpacks.
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Suggestion: have it affect the owner Pets (MM, Controller/Dom, Epics, etc) while it's toggled on.
- not the same as Group Fly, and not limited by area of effect
- could be tied to the last pet upgrade for MMs, so non-upgraded pets don't fly
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Air Superiority:
- I love how it looks and its soft-control usefulness.
Speed:
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Flurry:
- I dislike this animation.
- I understand it has a long animation time to give the impression of speed with multiple fast attacks. But the current animation still feels slow and heavy. Should be something like... One Thousand Cuts, but with punches.
Fighting:
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Boxing:
- I like the gutpunch animation.
- More animations would be welcome.
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Kick:
- The current animation is okay (not bad, not good).
- Would love to see more animations.
Leaping:
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Jump Kick:
- I strongly dislike this animation.
- Could use more animations.
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Acrobatics:
- I like having the option to have hold protection.
- But it takes a lot of investment.
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Spring Attack:
- I like it overall, but could recharge faster.
Medicine:
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Aid Other, Aid Self:
- I understand the reason they have long cast times and are interruptible -- it's not supposed to be a full fledged healing set.
- But they can be "bad enough" just having a long cast time, so I suggest removing the interrupt times altogether.
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Field Medic:
- Without interruption time in the base powers, the passive effect of this power could reduce the activation time of both Aid Other and Aid Self, while its clickable effect could increase the healing amount of those two powers.
- Since it requires heavy investment, it makes sense to me that such investment could make the two heal powers closer (but not equal) to a full fledged healing set.
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Recall Friend, Teleport Foe, Teleport Team, Long Range Teleport:
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Many of the Martial Arts animations are great, but once Martial
AssaultCombat for Blasters came around with that *amazing* spinning kick animation, I just want that ported to MA. That's my #1 request for the set.The alternate animations however, IMO look really bad, all of them. The momentum just feels wrong, lacking weight/impact. For those wanting more "punchy" animations, I think more alternate animations from other sets could benefit the set and maybe reduce the migration to Street Justice or Kinetic Melee (which have their own issues). Also it would be cool to restore the Chun-Li kick as an alternate animation to a power with the appropriate activation times.
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12 minutes ago, Dimensio said:
On which server do you play? I regularly attend Hamidon raids on Excelsior and no one seemed to think that this behavior was normal prior to last night.
Everlasting. We do four raids per day (six on weekends) and those crashes happen around 1 out of 3 times affecting a varying number of people.
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This has been happening for a while:
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I have a finished version of my Bio/Dark Hami Tanker.
Keen (Hami Tank) - Tanker (Bio Armor).mxd
It's a league-setting oriented build -- it doesn't have enough KB protection from IOs, so you'll need mez protection for the initial launch/alpha. Melee Hybrid + Clarion to be 100% safe against the initial stun (38 mag total). In a league setting, it doesn't require any external buffs to stay alive, neither on launch or during mito clearing.
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8 hours ago, Bopper said:
I do agree with this. Although you will be vulnerable to Defense Debuffs and you will probably only be able to build to softcap defense in S/L/Melee, but you can hit 86.5%+ resistance to basically every other debuff imaginable in the game (you'll need Focused Accuracy for To-Hit debuff protection, but it's available). Factor in the ability to resistance cap most types of damage (Cold you likely won't, but that's also one of the rarest damage types to face), the absorb shield, the heals, the regen. Rad Armor is a beast of a damage sponge. Rad Armor is so good, it has arguably the best T9 Armor power in the game, and I see builds still skip it because they already have their survival covered.
And best of all, you can jump up onto a curb. That alone makes Rad Armor OP.
Having built a Radiation Armor Tanker recently with all resistances capped but Cold (82%), I agree with everything in the above. That includes skipping the T9. It also makes a heck of a Hamidon tanker due to capped toxic resists, endurance drain and slow debuff resists.
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Can confirm this is also happening with Radiation Armor. To replicate:
- Use Radiation Therapy to reach 82% regen debuff resists
- Use Rebirth
Reported regeneration immediately after using Rebirth:
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Ran the script above against all my logs and here's the result.
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12 minutes ago, Naraka said:
If anything, a better argument for changing the animation is that all the other powers in Shock Therapy are "inoffensive" except that *ONE* power so why not change it?
Because now there are a number of players who actually like being able to cause (or receive) pain to/from allies. Not judging, just acknowledging their existence.
I can only imagine that if the devs went ahead and changed the animation, those players would come to the forums to complain about it. This is why I'm trying not to advocate for an outright animation change, even though it would address my personal issues.
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- An option to not have my animation changed by any ally buffs (Kinetics, Thermal, Elec Affinity buffs, etc)
- An option to not change an ally's animation when I cast buffs on them, similar to above but different viewpoint (both could co-exist)
- Real Minimum FX for everything, specially things like Bio Armor
- Non-visual-stealth options for stealth powers. Dark Armor has this already, as their "Soul Noir" option for their cloak power doesn't apply any visual stealth on the user (but applies stealth attribute), unlike the other options. This could also extend to area buffs, so defenders can like, cast Fade without making everyone visually invisible.
- Related to the above but different viewpoint: an option to not be visually affected by stealth/invisibility effects from ally buffs (Fade, Shadow Fall, Arctic Fog, Grant Invis, Mass Invis, etc)
- Ability to set the default flying animation among the existing ones without having to use an emote -- include Hover's current animation as an option for that, that'd be pretty cool to use as a normal flying animation.
- Ability to set a default stance animation among the existing ones, same as above. Examples: centered, cross arms, hero/villain stances, etc
- Ability to set a default running animation to perform like a Slide, Ninja Run or Beast Run, etc, without having to use those powers.
- Pistol animations from Thugs MM set proliferated to Dual Pistols
- The Spinning Kick animation from Martial Assault proliferated everywhere it can, including sets that don't do kicks (Super Strength) or sets that have their own exclusive animations (Street Justice) or elemental sets like Fire, Dark etc, with proper effects added to kicks. (This could apply to other animations too. 🙂 )
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On 4/17/2020 at 9:20 PM, Naraka said:
Have you taken my advice and sought assistance from fellow players that can create mods and/or remove certain sounds/animations?
There are several reasons I don't want to mod my client:
- I just don't. I want my experience to match what most other players see.
- Modding is not easy. (Keep reading...)
- Modding animations will not stop other players from seeing my character having seizures, which is a small part of the original problem.
- Replacing the seizure animation causes enemies to not play it when they're mezzed. It's not a problem for the animation to be caused BY and ON ENEMIES -- my OP clearly states that the problem was solely about the animation being caused AMONG ALLIES. Also myself, when affected by that animation BY ENEMIES was totally fine. After modding, I don't have those visual cues in combat anymore.
- Keeping mods across different computers is a pain. I have two gaming laptops and one gaming desktop that I can play CoH on.
I knew about modding back from the Live days and used it to an extent while I was interested in machinima stuff. But not anymore. I just don't have any desire to mod my client these days whatsoever.
However it came to a point that it was either that, or not play the game at all.
So modding became the lesser of two evils, and not a "solution" by any means.
I spent a week or so away from the game after my previous breakdown. I played a bit of other games but was missing CoH so badly, so I decided to look into minimal modding so I could be able to play the game again.
I already knew what to expect. First I had to use a pigg reader/exporter, and most options out there are not really friendly. Even the newest tool from Ourodev (Piglet) was not intuitive. I wanted to export only specific animations or use search features, but that proved to be a challenge. So I just exported everything. Then I had to look into animation file names to try to find the animations I wanted to use instead of the seizure one. And so I found the two animations I needed to replace:
- electro
- air_electro - seizure animation while flying
Okay so now I have to find an animation to replace it with. Considering the culprit power from Electric Affinity is a buff, I could replace it with a buffing animation like absorb, which is used when you eat an Inspiration for example. But that caused the following to happen:
- Enemies affected by electrical powers would play that "buffing" animation.
- Myself when affected by an electrical mez would play that "buffing" animation.
NOT GOOD. So I started looking for that quick "bump" animation that plays when allies receive Speed Boost. It is also the generic animation that plays when players are hit in combat. That would resolve the two issues above.
And that's where my nightmare began. Checked all the available topics and couldn't find anyone reporting what that animation was named. I spent literally DAYS looking for that animation. Every time I need to test an animation, I have to replace the file in the data folder, then restart the game. It was very time consuming. I think I had to do that hundreds of times, for every animation file I suspected to be the one I was looking for. I couldn't just change animation files while the game was running -- it would freeze the game and I'd have to force-close it.
Demorecording didn't help. Apparently, hit reactions are baked into FX files, and demorecord code would not tell me what animation the affected target would play. And I had no clue how to open or work with FX files.
At some point and days and lots of frustration later I came across this animation named "HQ_high" which name didn't really tell me anything. So I tested it ingame, and that was it. The small bump animation. All good! Then the next would be the aerial animation. I just used the same file, and it was pretty bad. The character would play the "grounded bump" animation while in the air, with steady feet.
So I had to look for the aerial bump animation. You'd think it'd be called "air_HQ_high" or something (most aerial animations start with "air_" in the names). But NOOOOOO. It had a totally different name. Nightmare Part 2 begins. More days looking for a frickin' animation that was not reported in any topic whatsoever. MEANWHILE, I realized the animation I replaced would only play for male characters. Female and Huge players would still get the seizure animation. I wanted it gone from all of my allies, not just myself. Yay, time to replace more animations around.
And guess what?? Female animation file names can be different. Thankfully, the male animations playing on female skeletons did just fine. But female characters had no HQ_high animation. What gives? Turns out their name was actually "combat_HQ". Huge version matched male. But then I was still looking for that aerial version.
After spending even more days looking for it I had an idea. Maybe looking at the source code of the game could give me hints. So I went to Ourodev and downloaded the whole thing (3GB). After some quick searches using the file names I previously found out, I was able to discover that the aerial bump animation was called "float_HQ". (Of course I missed it because Windows search sucks.) And that it thankfully matched across male, female and huge.
So in regards to animations, this is what I did regarding replacements:
Copy This File to data/player_library/animations Rename it to male/HQ_high.anim male/electro.anim male/float_HQ.anim male/air_electro.anim fem/combat_HQ.anim fem/electro.anim fem/float_HQ.anim fem/air_electro.anim huge/HQ_high.anim huge/electro.anim huge/float_HQ.anim huge/air_electro.anim Then I tested things in game for a few days. Then I noticed things like ally pets (demons, robots, etc) were still getting the seizure animation from ally buffs. Welp. More animations to replace. This is still going on.
I also replaced some of the sounds, and noticed it improved things a great deal. While sound effects from Elec Affinity were not exactly part of this specific problem, they helped aggravate it -- whenever those sounds played I'd get psyched about my character getting a seizure. So dampening those sounds helped. I chose two sounds as replacements:
- data/sound/Ogg/V_Powers/Mu_cagebolts.ogg -- the sustained effect after they hit
- data/sound/Ogg/V_Powers/Mu_cageboltshit.ogg -- the sound upon impact
Those are the sounds of Mu Mastery's Electric Cages, a lowered version of electrical effects. Since I was already decided to NOT look for sounds specifically used by Elec Affinity, I just scanned through ALL electric sounds that I could replace. This affected most electric power sounds in my client, and somehow had an effect on Elec Affinity too, which was what I wanted after all.
So currently, when ElecAff buffs go around during Hamidon raids, I barely hear them, I don't see my character and my allies get seizures (aside from pets) and things have generally improved. But I don't consider this resolved at all. This is just a band-aid solution, and it was a huge PITA to set up. I don't want to ever have to mod my client again for something like this. But at least I can play the game now.
I still hope this can be addressed from the devs side so one day I can remove those mods from my client and see that animation again where it belongs: during combat and among foes.
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I've reached my limit with this issue today and I had to force myself away from the game.
I don't want to quit, this is one of my favorite games of all time and I enjoy playing every day. But I also don't want to feel like I'm gonna throw up while I'm playing -- which has finally happened today. I've tried to put up with it for weeks, but there's only so much I can handle. Yes, I have mental health issues. So do many videogame players. Playing is a way to cope. This game used to be a place where I felt powerful and safe, and it's unfortunate how a single animation quickly turned things around. Finally, the lack of GM/Dev input here is highly demotivating and I don't feel like I belong anymore.
As always, YMMV. If you enjoy the animation, that's great, carry on. I'm just one player negatively impacted by this.
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2 hours ago, Bentley Berkeley said:
Oddly enough lacking empathy for animals suffering is very much a sign of several potentially dangerous and violent mental disorders.
You're way out of line here with that implication.
35 minutes ago, MTeague said:At no point did Keen say he would feel nothing if REAL dogs dropped dead.
This is correct. While I'm not an animal lover, I'm not an animal hater either. Seeing any living being die in real life is extremely disturbing to me, and honestly I'm baffled that this has even been brought up.
It also comes down to how much we relate to the visual entities in-game. I have a very strong connection with my own character. (And yes, I look at it all the time.) I don't feel the same connection when I see other MM's animal pets, so when they "die", it tends to not affect me compared to something that affects my character directly. Yes, I get very psyched up in combat and that's the main reason all characters I build in-game are extremely defensive so I feel the less pain as possible, and I also avoid dying at all costs. Yes, I mostly have no debt badges. I don't collect badges at all anyway. YMMV.
2 hours ago, Bentley Berkeley said:I would very much argue that finding a way to not have animal allies die in pain outside of combat, is a far more worthy topic to discuss then this one.
Please go ahead and look up for a topic to defend that point or create one yourself. I do NOT disagree with you, but you keep using it as a reason to dismiss this topic. We can have BOTH discussions and their solutions are even different.
2 hours ago, Bentley Berkeley said:I in fact compare people hating on shock treatment to anti vaxxers. It is a valid medical procedure. So yes allies using their shock powers to help someone to me is no different then using it like a defibrillator, something we have seen the Flash use his abilities to do, and in fact Im pretty sure he has even used it to shock people out of being mind controlled before which very much would count as a form of shock treatment.
I am not denying Shock Therapy is a valid medical procedure, but it can still cause mental triggers. I'd also think that heroes standing around in a non-combat environment shouldn't be subject to seizures, specially when they don't need any treatment.
For what it's worth, I think Defibrillator is the best power in that set: it makes total sense, the animation is amazing, and it has multiple purposes. It requires a combat state however (a dead ally), which is something the seizure-inducing power doesn't require.
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11 minutes ago, Naraka said:
Well crap, I didn't know people were that dense.
You don't have to move 100% of the time, just when you get the buffs.
I would certainly qualify that as *something* when responding to a post saying there is *nothing* you can do. Jeeze lol
Read again:
10 hours ago, Keen said:... I can stop them from causing that effect on me.
... I'll control or kill the enemy before they do anything to me.
... I do have the capacity to fight back and avoid all effects.
If I have to move after getting a seizure, I'm not avoiding it. The damage's already been done.
Thanks for proving my point.
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7 hours ago, Naraka said:
Yes there is, and it's a lot easier than all those other ways. It's called *Movement*. Just move = no seizure.
You know "standing around" is a thing when you're not fighting, right?
You know moving 100% of the time when not fighting is totally unrealistic, right?
Yeah because of course I'm just going to be running around when not fighting to avoid a drive-by buff that I have NO IDEA when it's gonna happen.
🤦♂️
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9 minutes ago, MTeague said:
- Electrical Blast powers still do this to enemies. And to YOU, when used against you by a Lead Shocker, or other foe. Does this cause concern?
- Fire Blast lights your enemies ON FIRE. And light YOU on fire when Circle Demons attack. Does this cause concern?
- Broad Sword, Katana, Ninja Blade, Battle Axe, and the like show the target (friend or foe) assaulted with giant weapons in animations that should be fatal. Does this cause concern?
- Earth Control leaves people encased in stone unable to twitch in any manner. Does this cause any concern?
- Mind Control violates the targets very thoughts, causing them to betray and harm their allies unwillingly. Does this cause concern?
Those are all fine for a single reason: I can stop them from causing that effect on me.
If I'm on a melee character, I won't suffer any of the above due to having mez protection.
If I'm on a ranged or control character, I'll control or kill the enemy before they do anything to me. Or I can pop breakfrees to avoid the effects. Or I can use Clarion. The list goes on.
When I'm in a hostile environment, it's expected that I'm going to get hurt, but I do have the capacity to fight back and avoid all effects.
When it comes from an ally... there's absolutely nothing I can do.
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I appreciate all the responses even the negative ones. I'd like to address some of them.
On 4/2/2020 at 1:38 AM, ArchVileTerror said:Generally, Naraka, it's my understanding that it comes down to context, situational expectations, and the perceived risk of griefing.
A player can "psyche themself up" before going up against an enemy which they know has interactions or content which they find distressing or personally harmful (or simply avoid that enemy all together in some cases) and still have the opportunity to play the game.
However, should a fellow player be able to perform a "drive-by buffing" with absolutely no warning or contextual clues, it can be rather upsetting. Particularly since there are players out there who strongly empathize with their character, and a loss of agency for the character translates to a loss of self-empowerment for the player.
Short version: Not everyone's the same, and some people are more sensitive to crap they find harmful than other players.
This was nicely put, thank you.
On 4/1/2020 at 2:12 PM, Bentley Berkeley said:And saying this animation is some kind of huge trigger vs say all of the nazi themes in our game that really can stir up players and lead to some real bigotry fueled tirades just seems well overblown in the outrage department.
People are different. Different things can affect people in different ways. Here's one example (of many):
On 4/1/2020 at 11:49 PM, Bentley Berkeley said:Hell seeing the animals in beast mastery die is frankly to me far far far more disturbing then this animation your so riled up about.
I am not an animal lover. Seeing the dogs drop dead when the MM changes zones does not trigger me in any way. But again, people are different. You are disturbed by it and you also mention your animal lover friend who gets upset by it. That does not give me the right to diminish your or their feelings (like you're doing to mine) just because you don't feel the same way. I'd wholeheartedly support a change to make the animals not die, and this is the type of thing that doesn't even need to be an option. There's precedent for this now with the April Fool's child despawn. Intriguingly enough, a number of people were sad about the kid no longer ragdolling aka "dying" when the owner changed zones.
On 4/1/2020 at 7:49 PM, Bentley Berkeley said:If we can do it to mobs, having it done to our characters is simply logical.
It is logical if an enemy is doing it to us (which has happened forever and I don't have any issues with it), but not from an ally.
On 4/1/2020 at 7:49 PM, Bentley Berkeley said:As others have pointed out this animation isnt even noticed when actively playing between the myriad attack animations and buff animations etc.
I wish that was the case, but one week later I constantly see myself being electrocuted (playing the animation) while attacking green mitos in Hamidon raids due to the much more frequent chain spam. I can only overcome that if I fill my attack chain 100% of the time and that's not always the case. Knowing that the effect is not caused by an enemy is even more aggravating.
On 4/1/2020 at 2:15 PM, Bentley Berkeley said:Either every single buff effect in the game needs to have its animations and visuals effecting our characters able to be opted out of or none should.
That's sort of what my suggestion is about. If this means going as far as rejecting ALL effects including all auras (and if we want to be totally radical about it, reject even the buffs themselves), I'm game. It'd be an option after all.
On 4/1/2020 at 2:12 PM, Bentley Berkeley said:If anything Id have this animation become sop for all electric powers offensive and defensive alike. I prefer immersion and this kind of animation effect is just that imo.
I could agree with this if we have a way to disable it. Including the option for the caster not wanting to cause it on allies.
I get it that you like being electrocuted by friends and that there are other people who also like it. I don't want to take that fun aspect of the game away from you or anyone else, but please understand that this very change is taking the fun away from me and other people, even if for different reasons than mine.
If you don't like my motivations anyway you can consider looking at @ROBOKiTTY's post:
On 4/1/2020 at 8:52 PM, ROBOKiTTY said:I'm in support of a general option to disable having your animation set by external buffs. It's a common enough phenomenon where people would drive-by buff a group of people. Most of the time, this is harmless and done without any ill intent. However, buff animations disrupt emotes and often force your character into a combat stance, which is disruptive for social gatherings or people roleplaying. While visible effects can be unwanted in some scenarios, forced animations are a lot more intrusive.
On the anniversary of the game's shutdown, people were holding torches in Atlas Park. GMs had to ask people to turn off stealth auras and refrain from disruptive buffs. A lot of people like buffing people to be friendly, and as mentioned, the vast majority of the time, this is not a bad thing and is often an appreciated gesture. It's a part of the game's culture, So making it an opt-out option seems to be the best solution, as opposed to losing one's temper and yelling at the Nth person to freshly arrive in the zone and buff people without realizing what's going on.
It'd be even better if this option could go into the game's actual option menu and as a slash command, so it could be toggled a lot more easily.
It solves the same problem with a different motivation.
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Blaster vs. Sentinel for content, end game teaming
in Sentinel
Posted · Edited by Keen
I had a similar dilemma recently, trying to figure out a "main" for badges and whatnot.
Ultimately I went Sentinel, because I personally favor defense way more than offense, and I enjoy being ranged a lot more than melee. So I built a proc-oriented Beam Rifle/Willpower Sentinel that manages to get a 4m30 pylon time (better than many of my Blasters) and has around 80HP/s regen -- better than the average Regeneration Scrapper without Instant Healing/Dull Pain on -- on top of the other defense layers from WP. Beam Rifle does -res and I slotted a few -res IOs as well so it helps quite a bit on teams and endgame content.
But the difference exists, and it's huge. I also have a Beam Rifle Blaster who can solo giant monsters in the Hive -- the damage output is quite absurd. It is my fastest pylon killer to date (2m30). It needs Clarion to get around mez (while the Sentinel went for Ageless). But as others mentioned, I'd rather not rely on Incarnates or Inspirations as much, so Sentinel gives me the comfortable level of gameplay I'm looking for.