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Well i would still love to take ninjitsu but what would you guys recommend then, I have seen so many different Opinions in thread lol. I been messing around with some other secondarys in the builder but so far that all come out to about equal as ninjitsu except for elec seemed really high on the resist end but was harder to cap as many def as i did with ninjitsu build.

Well so far this is the build i have come up with. He is DB/Ninjitsu. He is more of a thematic char. I will Prolly try messing with some other secondaries but I love ninjitsu for the low rch heal and end recovery and shinobi is just awesome IMO. Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation Scrapper Primary Power Set: Dual Blades Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Power Slice (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Level 1: Ninja Reflexes (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (5) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 2: Ablating Strike (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus (3) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance Level 4: Danger Sense (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (11) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 6: Typhoon's Edge (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (7) Obliteration - Damage (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (9) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge Level 8: Shinobi-Iri (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 10: Blinding Feint (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (11) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (13) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (13) Hecatomb - Damage (37) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 12: Kuji-In Rin (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 14: Boxing (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus (15) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (25) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance Level 16: Tough (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (17) Aegis - Resistance (19) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (19) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (25) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 18: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 20: Seishinteki Kyoyo (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge (40) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge Level 22: Kuji-In Sha (A) Panacea - Heal (34) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (36) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (37) Panacea - Hea/Recharge (37) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 26: Vengeful Slice (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (27) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (31) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (31) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (31) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 28: Sweeping Strike (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage (34) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (36) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage Level 30: Bo Ryaku (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 32: One Thousand Cuts (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (33) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (50) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 35: Blinding Powder (A) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit (46) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (48) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (48) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (48) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge Level 38: Mu Bolts (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 41: Ball Lightning (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (50) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 44: Electric Shackles (A) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb (45) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge (45) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold (45) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge (46) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge (46) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance Level 47: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 49: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Empty Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - 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Yea kinda what i figured which sucks cause i love ninjitsu but finding it hard to build resists on the build.

Ok thanks. Yea ive slowly been trying to tweak it a little more and yes that knockback is soooo annoying lol. What enhancements are need to change to KD?

I know the difference between def and resist but im curious as far as builds do go, which is better to go for first for survivability?

Well I have tryed the new build out and its pretty good minus a couple major problems. Both my hasten and lightform according to the build should be perma but its not in actual game. I keep my hasten and ageless up everyt time but yet hasten and lightform still off perma by like 8 seconds. If that light form drops and have ton of mobs on me its like insta death from the resists dropping. Any ideas how i can remedy this?

Ok well i did take some of the ideas from you build and tweaked the build more i lost some things, gained some things ect but thats how it goes when tweaking i guess but this what i came up with so for so that i could take assult over support. Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural Peacebringer Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura Power Pool: Concealment Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Hero Profile: Level 1: Glinting Eye (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge (3) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (3) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (5) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (5) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 1: Incandescence (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 2: Gleaming Blast (A) Superior Essence Transfer - RechargeTime/Global Heal (7) Superior Essence Transfer - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Superior Essence Transfer - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Essence Transfer - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Essence Transfer - Damage/RechargeTime (19) Superior Essence Transfer - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime Level 4: Shining Shield (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (50) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 6: Essence Boost (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 8: Stealth (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 10: Boxing (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (19) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (33) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Level 12: Radiant Strike (A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (33) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (33) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (34) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance (34) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 14: Proton Scatter (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (15) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (17) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (17) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (40) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 16: Thermal Shield (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (50) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 18: Quantum Shield (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 20: Tough (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 26: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO Level 28: Inner Light (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 30: Luminous Detonation (A) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage (37) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (39) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (39) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 32: Incandescent Strike (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (46) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (48) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge Level 35: Reform Essence (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (36) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Conserve Energy (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 41: Solar Flare (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 44: Dawn Strike (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (45) Obliteration - Damage (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 47: Quantum Flight (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 49: Light Form (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Cosmic Balance Level 1: Energy Flight (A) Freebird - +Stealth Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 10: Combat Flight (A) Luck of the Gambler - 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Well i have tryed several ways to do this build and get capped defense without support core but just cant seem to do it. I really wanted to take assault for the high chance to double hit. /Sigh

Anyone else have any thoughts or opinions on the build? Still been trying to tweak it some. but kinda hard at certain point.

This my Human form only PB any help thoughts on the build would be appreciated. Would actually like to try and soft cap defense's with the need for support core incarnate if can be done. Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural Peacebringer Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura Power Pool: Concealment Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Hero Profile: Level 1: Glinting Eye (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge (3) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (3) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (5) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (5) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 1: Incandescence (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 2: Gleaming Blast (A) Superior Essence Transfer - RechargeTime/Global Heal (11) Superior Essence Transfer - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Essence Transfer - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Essence Transfer - Damage/RechargeTime (19) Superior Essence Transfer - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (19) Superior Essence Transfer - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 4: Shining Shield (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance Level 6: Essence Boost (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 8: Stealth (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 10: Boxing (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (11) Hecatomb - Damage (23) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (33) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance Level 12: Radiant Strike (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus (33) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 14: Proton Scatter (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (15) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage (17) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (17) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Level 16: Thermal Shield (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 18: Quantum Shield (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 20: Tough (A) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 26: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO Level 28: Inner Light (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 30: Luminous Detonation (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize (37) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (39) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (40) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 32: Incandescent Strike (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (48) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 35: Reform Essence (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (36) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (36) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Conserve Energy (A) Recharge Reduction IO (48) Recharge Reduction IO Level 41: Solar Flare (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 44: Dawn Strike (A) Superior Kheldian's Grace - Recharge/Form Empowerment (45) Superior Kheldian's Grace - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (45) Superior Kheldian's Grace - Damage/Recharge (45) Superior Kheldian's Grace - Accuracy/Damage (46) Superior Kheldian's Grace - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Kheldian's Grace - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 47: Quantum Flight (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 49: Light Form (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Cosmic Balance Level 1: Energy Flight (A) Freebird - +Stealth Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 10: Combat Flight (A) Luck of the Gambler - 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Ok so i made a dark blast/plant blaster. For some reason pines in pvp mode haveing toxins and aim both toggles on makes Moonbeam do less dmg? Is this an error on pines or what is the purpose of this? It has me all confused when trying to make a build.

Awesome Thanks!

When using PvP enhancement sets do you receive both bonus's from set when in pvp or just the pvp set bonus?

I think Sentinel has really peaked my interest, what would be some good secondarys for sentinel? Im wondering about Ninjitsu maybe?

Awesome thanks guys!, Would these sets also apply for say corrupters and sentinels? Also on corrputers Im gonna asume prolly Poison/Cold/Rad prolly make the best secondaries correct? Im just trying to get a breakdown of things. Like looking at Blaster secondaries it seems really hard to choose anything other then /Plant. I mean tactical arrow and devices look ok but im not sure. Ill be honest never pvped much back on Live but I love to pvp. So me and a friend trying to get a breakdown of things more or less. So any tips and stuff are more then welcomed. We are really trying to kinda stay away from the FOTM Ice/Plant right now.

Which of these you guys think would be better? Katana/Elec or Katana/Bio? Both sound appealing just not sure with which to go with.

Just wondering if there are any Blasters sets that are on par with Ice? I mean everyone is Ice. So just trying to find something maybe on par with ice to be little different.

Ok just wanted to share my build so far and when i say my build this is actually a Modifcation of someone elses build. Oldskool thanks for help and advice. I think im just having hard time deciding between Barrier Core and Ageless Core Incarnate whats you guys thoughts on this and build critique more then welcome. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 2.22 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! GrimFate: Level 50 Mutation Sentinel Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Sorcery Ancillary Pool: Electricity Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Pistols (A) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (3) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (43) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (50) Decimation - Chance of Build Up Level 1: Ninja Reflexes (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 2: Dual Wield (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (17) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage (37) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 4: Empty Clips (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (9) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage (39) Positron's Blast - 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ahh ok so im forced to use the non superior /sigh I actually didnt know there was limit.

This is just to Let everyone know here, I did some testing and the superior version of opportunity strikes 5 set rchg bonus does not apply itself in Pines or In game But the Non-superior version does I tested this in game and in pines. Was just mostly letting Oldskool know you cause you could free up one slot by only slotting haste with 2 instead of 3 if you use non superior. Would still have perma Haste then. Its definately a Bug though i hope they fix cause your still -2.5% rchg of what ya could have from the superior set.

Ok thanks very much, Yea right now im at like 40% def on my positonals with my DP/Nin sentinel on my build im running. Problem is trying to hit that 45% soft cap really drops my dmg on attack by quite a bit. So i just been trying to figure out how to adjust the build without sacrificing my dmg to much.

Was just wondering when getting to soft cap is there a big diff in dmg you take have 40% def vs having 45%?

ok awesome took those suggestions any other way to up my damage even more? Was wondering maybe I should drop bulletrain or dualwield and maybe take like tactics or something else or just leave as is? Also would that build-up proc from decimation be better served else where?

Hey oldschool would you mind posting your build for your DP/Nin? This is my build so far but its my first attempt. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 2.22 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Woo: Level 50 Magic Sentinel Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Sorcery Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Pistols (A) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (15) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (17) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 1: Ninja Reflexes (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 2: Danger Sense (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 4: Boxing (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (7) Hecatomb - Damage (31) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge Level 6: Shinobi-Iri (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 8: Swap Ammo Level 10: Kuji-In Rin (A) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure Level 12: Suppressive Fire (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (40) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge Level 14: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 16: Seishinteki Kyoyo (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge Level 18: Executioner's Shot (A) Superior Sentinel's Ward - RechargeTime/Chance for +Absorb (19) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage (19) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Opportunity Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (21) Superior Opportunity Strikes - 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I had made post before about Broadsword VS Katana. What about Katana VS Dual Swords? Which in you guys opinion is better? Does Dual Swords have long animation times and inferior dmg compared to Katana?