Gammos Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Hey all! So, I know the general consensus is that Forts are superior to NW's. However, I am really digging this build I have made on Test. I didn't want to purple her out but I still wanted to be a viable threat to these baddies. I would love some feedback. I ran a few tests last night and I noticed I was able to run +4/8 without a scratch but it took forever to kill mobs. Also, whenever I faced my fellow Arachnos, I suffered rather horribly even at +3/5 (having no DDR sucks lol). Everything else I've faced so far was great. Notes: I don't rely on ML for my defense (which is why it's not turned on in this build). It's more of an oh sh*t or team buff button. No hasten also. I tried not to rely on that in this build. I am soft-capped for normal content and I know I could have used more procs but I'm not as good with my Mids-Fu as you good people are. Thanks in advance for the solid feedback! Build Spoiler Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Blood Money: Level 50 Natural Arachnos WidowPrimary Power Set: Night Widow TrainingSecondary Power Set: Widow TeamworkPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: MedicinePower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: Fighting Hero Profile:Level 1: Poison Dart -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(21), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(3), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(43), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(45)Level 2: Strike -- Mk'Bit-Dam%(A), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(5), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(7), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(7), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(43)Level 6: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A)Level 8: Follow Up -- SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(A), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg(9), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21)Level 10: Indomitable Will -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(11)Level 12: Spin -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(13), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(13), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(29), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)Level 14: Lunge -- Mk'Bit-Dam%(A), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(15), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(25), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 16: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 18: Slash -- SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(A), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(19), SprDmnofA-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit(42), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(45), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(46), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(46)Level 22: Mask Presence -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A)Level 24: Foresight -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(42)Level 26: Eviscerate -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(27), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(27), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(36), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)Level 28: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)Level 30: Mind Link -- Rct-ResDam%(A)Level 32: Psychic Scream -- Ann-ResDeb%(A), Ann-Acc/Dmg(33), Ann-Dmg/Rchg(33), Ann-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 35: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)Level 38: Aid Self -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(39), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(46), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), NmnCnv-Heal(48)Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), UnbLea-Stlth(43)Level 44: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 47: Tough -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(48), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(50), Ags-Psi/Status(50)Level 49: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 1: Conditioning Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(3)Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon ------------------------------------Set Bonus Totals: 53.54 Toxic Damage (12% chance, CancelOnMiss) 16.5% DamageBuff(Smashing) 16.5% DamageBuff(Lethal) 16.5% DamageBuff(Fire) 16.5% DamageBuff(Cold) 16.5% DamageBuff(Energy) 16.5% DamageBuff(Negative) 16.5% DamageBuff(Toxic) 16.5% DamageBuff(Psionic) 9.75% Defense(Smashing) 9.75% Defense(Lethal) 16.94% Defense(Fire) 16.94% Defense(Cold) 16.63% Defense(Energy) 16.63% Defense(Negative) 6% Defense(Psionic) 13.5% Defense(Melee) 23.5% Defense(Ranged) 23.19% Defense(AoE) 1.35% Max End 3% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount) 6% Enhancement(Heal) 67% Enhancement(Accuracy) 40% Enhancement(RechargeTime) 28.5% SpeedFlying 172.7 HP (16.12%) HitPoints 28.5% JumpHeight 28.5% SpeedJumping MezResist(Confused) 77.5% MezResist(Held) 77.5% MezResist(Immobilized) 77.5% MezResist(Sleep) 77.5% MezResist(Stunned) 77.5% MezResist(Terrorized) 77.5% 4.5% (0.08 End/sec) Recovery 62% (3.32 HP/sec) Regeneration 26.75% Resistance(Smashing) 26.75% Resistance(Lethal) 5% Resistance(Fire) 5% Resistance(Cold) 11.75% Resistance(Energy) 11.75% Resistance(Negative) 23% Resistance(Toxic) 28% Resistance(Psionic) 0% Resistance(Smashing) 0% Resistance(Lethal) 0% Resistance(Fire) 0% Resistance(Cold) 0% Resistance(Energy) 0% Resistance(Negative) 0% Resistance(Toxic) 0% Resistance(Psionic) 28.5% SpeedRunning Copy/Paste Spoiler | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1471;673;1346;HEX;| |78DA7D945B53127118C6776595444C11140FA1222A1E090F5D37666AA59425D925B| 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Shockacon Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 It's super late where I am but insomnia has better resistance than me right now. I feel like a rarity because i call my NW my main. Fell in love with the archetype on Live and when HC popped up I jumped on the chance to revive my toon and improve it. I was not disappointed. I'm also on my phone so I can't post my current build for comparisons but I do see a couple of differences (save for IO choices). Didn't actually need the fighting pool on mine as i managed to make my defense high enough even with meh level (hardly any except psionic. My night widow don't play your mind games). I didn't take the medicine pool either (didn't need it on my build), opting for a patron pool for more offense because my character's theory is the best defense is too many choices in offense (like her shoe closet at her condo in St. Martial). I feel like i could nitpick choices with defensive slotting but honestly I am just grumpy from fighting insomnia... maybe i should count alts (sheep are so passé)...
Gulbasaur Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 Night widows are definitely fun and I wish I enjoyed playing them more. They seems to be getting more interest recently, which is interesting. You probably don't need fighting - you can reach pretty decent resists with IOs and scaling resistances don't show up in the Hero Planner but are really, really good when they kick in - I can safely tank with my widow. What are your position defences like? Doctor Fortune Soulwright Mother Blight Brightwarden Storm Lantern King Solar Corona Borealis Blood Fortunado Dark/Dark Corruptor Rad/Rad Brute Gravity/Time Controller Storm/Water Defender Peacebringer Dark/Dark Tanker The Good Missions Guide: A Heroic Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Blueside Guide Easy IO Cheat Sheet The Mean Missions Guide: A Villainous Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Redside Guide Fortunatas are the Bestunatas
Gammos Posted March 6, 2020 Author Posted March 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Shockacon said: It's super late where I am but insomnia has better resistance than me right now. I feel like a rarity because i call my NW my main. Fell in love with the archetype on Live and when HC popped up I jumped on the chance to revive my toon and improve it. I was not disappointed. My NW was actually my first 50 here on HC. I loved Veats since they were first introduced 💪 1
Gammos Posted March 6, 2020 Author Posted March 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Gulbasaur said: Night widows are definitely fun and I wish I enjoyed playing them more. They seems to be getting more interest recently, which is interesting. You probably don't need fighting - you can reach pretty decent resists with IOs and scaling resistances don't show up in the Hero Planner but are really, really good when they kick in - I can safely tank with my widow. What are your position defences like? Yea I agree, I probably could get away without using Tough. I'm soft-capped positionally. Melee: 50%, Ranged and AoE 48% (without ML) This is why I wanted to use the test server to tweak things here and there. SN: I'm developing a Fort build and using your excellent build as a frame 😄 1
Shockacon Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, Gammos said: My NW was actually my first 50 here on HC. I loved Veats since they were first introduced I was working on leveling a stalker to 50 (for my first lvl 50 villain) when the announcement for VEATs first came out. I put in overtime making sure I got to 50 on that toon so fast. Then I saved a name for a crab spider and once they were released, I tore into leveling that one and loved it. Once I hit 50 I decided to try a widow and liked the sound of night widows so I went with that. Pretty sure I had more fun leveling those 2 than any others I've had so far on both Live and HC (though this electric stalker is giving the crab spider competition... nothing beats my NW, though).
Gammos Posted March 6, 2020 Author Posted March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Shockacon said: I was working on leveling a stalker to 50 (for my first lvl 50 villain) when the announcement for VEATs first came out. I put in overtime making sure I got to 50 on that toon so fast. Then I saved a name for a crab spider and once they were released, I tore into leveling that one and loved it. Once I hit 50 I decided to try a widow and liked the sound of night widows so I went with that. Pretty sure I had more fun leveling those 2 than any others I've had so far on both Live and HC (though this electric stalker is giving the crab spider competition... nothing beats my NW, though). Great times... I was so excited when they were first released. I could never get into Khelds and was thrilled at how my Widow performed. This is why the my Widow here was one of the first toons I rolled and the first I got to 50. It's also the reason why it's taken me so long coming up with a build I was interested in. I didn't want to waste inf in a build that under-performed for one of my fav toons.
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