ILIWAPCT Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I was wondering how much recharge you need with adrenal booster for Permanent Domination? For example with hasten you need to slot 70. Or if you slotted them both what would your under 70 number be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantricsecrets Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Perma dom you need at least 122 recharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezmera Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Don't know if it'd be feasible. I usually take Unleash Potential which is about the same in terms of recharge and structure. Typically I'll get 90-100% more recharge into my build plus also hasten. Even with that Unleash Potential is active for a minute and down for 1:20 so even with AB's 35% more recharge I don't see it being able to be perma without an unnecessary amount of baked in recharge. Better off optimizing in defenses and other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILIWAPCT Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Thanks for the replies. Yes, Perma Dom is more complicated than one number, it's a differential equation. However, simplifying it lets you play with other builds and at the end of the day field testing > paper performance. With that said: Hasten= 70 Adrenal= 28* Unrelenting= 20* Yes, because of power recharges etc. the numbers for Adrenal and Unrelenting aren't EXACTLY the same as Hasten's number. It will put me in the ball park to field test, the give and take, to decide whether I am giving up too much or gaining more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezmera Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ILIWAPCT said: Thanks for the replies. Yes, Perma Dom is more complicated than one number, it's a differential equation. However, simplifying it lets you play with other builds and at the end of the day field testing > paper performance. With that said: Hasten= 70 Adrenal= 28* Unrelenting= 20* Yes, because of power recharges etc. the numbers for Adrenal and Unrelenting aren't EXACTLY the same as Hasten's number. It will put me in the ball park to field test, the give and take, to decide whether I am giving up too much or gaining more. I've taken Unrelenting and spec'd out of it a few times until I came to the conclusion that there's just better things to chase than to waste 2 powers for one that's somewhat useful. I tried to give Unrelenting a fair shot but that it lasts only 30 seconds and yet still has a long recharge it's just not a reliable power to factor into your build the boosting abilities from this one. At least the origin pool powers stay active for at least double the amount of time. Rather than taking two useless powers I found it much more beneficial to just take defense powers where you can slot gamblers to get almost the same recharge numbers PLUS get the side benefit of always active defense values. Then there's the damage boost which if you just take assault having that one always active turns out to be better in terms of keeping better sustained damage. Adrenal would be okay to try to factor the alternating boosts into your build but having given Unrelenting it's fair look over I just wouldn't vouch for it. Edited December 17, 2020 by Mezmera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILIWAPCT Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Mezmera said: I've taken Unrelenting and spec'd out of it a few times until I came to the conclusion that there's just better things to chase than to waste 2 powers for one that's somewhat useful. I tried to give Unrelenting a fair shot but that it lasts only 30 seconds and yet still has a long recharge it's just not a reliable power to factor into your build the boosting abilities from this one. At least the origin pool powers stay active for at least double the amount of time. Rather than taking two useless powers I found it much more beneficial to just take defense powers where you can slot gamblers to get almost the same recharge numbers PLUS get the side benefit of always active defense values. Then there's the damage boost which if you just take assault having that one always active turns out to be better in terms of keeping better sustained damage. Adrenal would be okay to try to factor the alternating boosts into your build but having given Unrelenting it's fair look over I just wouldn't vouch for it. You're correct about Unrelenting, it's too short. I was considering it because of it cancels the end crash on Unleash Potential. That brings me back to Adrenal Booster which includes useful powers like corrosive vial and speed of sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezmera Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 16 hours ago, ILIWAPCT said: You're correct about Unrelenting, it's too short. I was considering it because of it cancels the end crash on Unleash Potential. That brings me back to Adrenal Booster which includes useful powers like corrosive vial and speed of sound. There's no crash on those last Origin pool powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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