Bilious Slick Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I've seen a lot of differing opinions about Beam Rifle; currently, I skip Single Shot and Piercing Beam. With Power Boosted Farsight, my ranged and AoE defenses are softcapped, and Time's Juncture covers the gap in melee defense. I've heard Distortion Field is skippable, but I like the extra mitigation offered by its -Recharge and occasional holds. With both Hasten and Chrono Shift, I barely have enough recharge to make the latter permanent, although I have to remember to use it on cooldown. My main questions are: Should I keep Charged Shot for its higher DPA (if target is Disintegrated), or take Single Shot for the extra -Regen? Between Disintegration, Time Crawl, and Time Stop, I can apply a total of -300% Regen to a single target. Is that enough for AVs and GMs, or would the extra -75% Regen be more beneficial than the extra damage? and Should I drop Cutting Beam in favor of Piercing Beam, keeping all the same enhancements? Time's Juncture seems to reward jumping into melee, which puts it at odds with cones like Cutting Beam that encourage staying at range. But for particularly hard targets, I'd already be trying to maintain debuffs from 3 separate powers (all the -Regen ones mentioned above except Single Shot, which I'm not including because it would be part of my standard rotation), so adding a fourth in Piercing Beam seems like a bit much. Is the added -Res worth it when I already have Slowed Response? Here's my build; I don't include any Incarnate abilities because I like to make characters that work without them. Spoiler Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 3.0.0.0https://github.com/Reborn-Team/Hero-Designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Beam/Time: Level 50 Technology CorruptorPrimary Power Set: Beam RifleSecondary Power Set: Time ManipulationPower Pool: SorceryPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Power Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Charged Shot (A) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Scourging Blast - Damage/RechargeTime (3) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (5) Superior Scourging Blast - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (5) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (7) Superior Scourging Blast - RechargeTime/PBAoE +End Level 1: Time Crawl (A) Accuracy IOLevel 2: Temporal Mending (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (7) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (9) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (9) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (11) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (11) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 4: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance (17) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 6: Disintegrate (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (17) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (19) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (21) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge Level 8: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (23) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Time's Juncture (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff (23) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge (25) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (25) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance Level 12: Cutting Beam (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (27) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (27) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (29) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (31) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 14: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (31) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (31) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 16: Temporal Selection (A) Recharge Reduction IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO Level 18: Lancer Shot (A) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage (33) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Recharge/Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 20: Time Stop (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge (36) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge (36) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold (37) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 22: Aim (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build UpLevel 24: Distortion Field (A) Hold Duration IO (37) Hold Duration IO Level 26: Penetrating Ray (A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (37) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (40) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 28: Farsight (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 30: Kick (A) EmptyLevel 32: Overcharge (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (42) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (43) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown Level 35: Power Build Up (A) Recharge Reduction IO (43) Recharge Reduction IO Level 38: Chrono Shift (A) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge (45) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance (45) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge (45) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance (46) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge (46) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Slowed Response (A) Accuracy IO (46) Recharge Reduction IO (47) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 44: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 47: Tough (A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance (47) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (48) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 49: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (49) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (49) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Scourge Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 2: Swift (A) Empty Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (13) Miracle - +Recovery (13) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (15) Performance Shifter - EndMod (15) Endurance Modification IO Level 1: Disintegrating Level 1: Quick Form------------
Carnifax Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) I always like splitting Scourging Blast into 3 and 3. That way you get 2x 10% recharge. I've also found that Chrono is perfectly happy with 2 level 50+5 recharge IOs in it and nothing more. That gives you 4 slots to play with, letting you stick 4 Unbreakable Guard into tough, giving you precious Melee Def (although really anything getting close enough to melee gets debuffed by Juncture anyway). So minor-tweak version I'd switch Cutting to take 3 of the Scourging, plus some frankenslotting aimed at adding Range to it (Cones love +range), pare back Chrono and that gets you closer to melee cap. Costs you some AoE but since nearly everything is capped anyway it won't matter too much. Do you need Conserve Power? Layering Temp Inv on top of Tough gives you nice s/l resists instead, at the cost of one more toggle. But you look well slotted up for +Recovery and Chances for End. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.6https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Beam/Time: Level 50 Technology CorruptorPrimary Power Set: Beam RifleSecondary Power Set: Time ManipulationPower Pool: SorceryPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Power Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Charged Shot -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7)Level 1: Time Crawl -- Acc-I(A)Level 2: Temporal Mending -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(11)Level 4: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(17)Level 6: Disintegrate -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(21), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(21)Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23)Level 10: Time's Juncture -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(23), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(25), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(25)Level 12: Cutting Beam -- SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(29), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(29), Ann-ResDeb%(31)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(31)Level 16: Temporal Selection -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)Level 18: Lancer Shot -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(34)Level 20: Time Stop -- UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(A), UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(36), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(36), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(36), UnbCns-Dam%(37)Level 22: Aim -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 24: Distortion Field -- Hold-I(A), Hold-I(37)Level 26: Penetrating Ray -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Apc-Acc/Rchg(39), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Apc-Dam%(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)Level 28: Farsight -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def(40), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(42)Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 32: Overcharge -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(42), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Rgn-Knock%(43), PstBls-Dam%(45)Level 35: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)Level 38: Chrono Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45)Level 41: Slowed Response -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), AchHee-ResDeb%(47)Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(46)Level 47: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(47), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), UnbGrd-Max HP%(48), GldArm-3defTpProc(48), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)Level 49: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def(49), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(49)Level 1: Scourge Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(13), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15), EndMod-I(15)Level 1: Disintegrating Level 49: Quick Form ------------ Edited January 27, 2021 by Carnifax 1 My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
Bilious Slick Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 I appreciate the response! I'm not sure I need Conserve Power, but I remember experiencing a net loss of Endurance over time while testing on the beta server. It was a fairly slow decline, but I'm concerned that I'd eventually run out in prolonged fights without it, and replacing it with another toggle would only make that worse. Giving CS some End Mod enhancement helps with this as well, but didn't seem to be enough on its own since its +Recovery buff only lasts 30 seconds. I might need to test it again, though; it's possible that I forgot some changes I made to the build since then. The defense looks decent as well, but remember that Power Boost/Power Build Up also increases the defense provided by toggles, and that extra Def only lasts as long as Power Boost itself. With the way I've slotted Farsight, it grants 22.14% Def when Power Boosted, meaning that I'd need at least 22.86% Def before Power Boosted Farsight in order to hit the softcap, which Preemptive Optimization slotted in Chrono Shift and Frozen Blast slotted in Cutting Beam both help with. In the case of the former, I'd still hit the requisite Ranged Def without it, but the set's 5-piece bonus is a bit of extra global recharge, and at that point it's just one extra slot for 3.75% more Ranged Def. In the latter's case, I'd be less than 1% shy, but I'm a bit of a perfectionist. Slotting some range in Cutting Beam would help it hit more targets, yes, but that isn't the issue I'm having with it. My problem is that Cutting Beam wants me at range, while Time's Juncture wants me in melee. So, should I keep Cutting Beam, or should I drop it altogether and take Piercing Beam instead?
Carnifax Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Time Juncture isn't that good that you want to be close all the time. Think of it more like "if something gets close to me/us it's boned". I think you're way overslotted for aoe defense, especially given your typed defenses. And I say that running a DP/Kin with about 22% aoe defense and thriving in tough content. My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
Uun Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 I don't recommend skipping Piercing Beam. Its got 15% -res which stacks with Slowed Response. Uuniverse
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