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Elec/time or Elec/rad


WitchofDread

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i'm torn between 2 build ideas:

 

Both are pretty similar, /time pulls slightly ahead in def/res, acc, and end usage, it buffs the team and gremlins more. Distortion field is nice for loading up with procs and that additonal hold chance which is great with Lockdown: Chance for +2 mag hold. Temporal Selection on a gremlin could be funny.

 

/rad has harder hitting debuffs and has better access to -regen which time lacks. Choking Cloud is there mainly as a set mule but would be amusing to see Conductive Aura + Chocking Cloud + World of Confusion.

 

Both have pretty much the same end recovery but /rad will be more end intensive. I think overall im leaning more towards /time but im just not sure.

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Electric Control
Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Tesla Cage            NrnSht-Acc/EndRdx(A), NrnSht-Dam%(3), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(3), UnbCns-Dam%(5), GldNet-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Dam%(7)
Level 1:    Time Crawl            Acc-I(A)
Level 2:    Chain Fences            SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(A), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(7), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(9), PstBls-Dam%(9), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(11)
Level 4:    Temporal Mending        NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), NmnCnv-Heal(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17)
Level 6:    Jolting Chain            SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), FrcFdb-Rechg%(19), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(19), Apc-Dam%(21), GldJvl-Dam%(21)
Level 8:    Conductive Aura            PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(25), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(25), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(27)
Level 10:    Time's Juncture            DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(27), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(29), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(29)
Level 12:    Temporal Selection        RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14:    Hover                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16:    Distortion Field        GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(A), NrnSht-Dam%(31), GldNet-Dam%(31), Lck-%Hold(31)
Level 18:    Fly                Frb-Stlth(A)
Level 20:    Kick                Empty(A)
Level 22:    Tough                StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(33), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(33), RctArm-ResDam(33)
Level 24:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 26:    Synaptic Overload        CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(34), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(36), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(36), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(36), CrcPrs-Conf%(37)
Level 28:    Farsight            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(37), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), LucoftheG-Def(39)
Level 30:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 32:    Gremlins            ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(42)
Level 35:    Indomitable Will        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 38:    Chrono Shift            PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(43)
Level 41:    World of Confusion        Ccp-Dam%(A), MlsIll-Dam%(45), Obl-%Dam(45), Arm-Dam%(45), ScrDrv-Dam%(46), Acc-I(46)
Level 44:    Psionic Tornado            FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), ExpStr-Dam%(46), PstBls-Dam%(50), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), Ann-ResDeb%(50)
Level 47:    Mind Over Body            TtnCtn-ResDam(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(48), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(48), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49:    Slowed Response            AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 1:    Containment    
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Health                Mrc-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50:    Intuition Radial Paragon    
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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Electric Control
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Tesla Cage            NrnSht-Dam%(A), NrnSht-Acc/EndRdx(3), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(3), GldNet-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Dam%(5), UnbCns-Dam%(7)
Level 1:    Radiant Aura            NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), NmnCnv-Heal(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11)
Level 2:    Chain Fences            SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(A), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(13), PstBls-Dam%(13), Ann-ResDeb%(15), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(17)
Level 4:    Radiation Infection        DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(43), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(46), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(50)
Level 6:    Jolting Chain            SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), FrcFdb-Rechg%(19), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(19), Apc-Dam%(21), GldJvl-Dam%(21)
Level 8:    Conductive Aura            PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 10:    Accelerate Metabolism        PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(27), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(37), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(37)
Level 12:    Enervating Field        EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(25)
Level 14:    Hover                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16:    Fly                Frb-Stlth(A)
Level 18:    Kick                Empty(A)
Level 20:    Tough                GldArm-3defTpProc(A), RctArm-ResDam(25), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(27)
Level 22:    Lingering Radiation        Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 24:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(29), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 26:    Synaptic Overload        CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(31), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(31), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(33), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(33), CrcPrs-Conf%(50)
Level 28:    Choking Cloud            SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(37), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(40), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(43)
Level 30:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(36), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 32:    Gremlins            ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(34), SlbAll-Build%(36)
Level 35:    Indomitable Will        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 38:    Paralyzing Blast        BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(39), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(39), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39)
Level 41:    World of Confusion        Ccp-Dam%(A), MlsIll-Dam%(42), Obl-%Dam(42), Arm-Dam%(42), Acc-I(43)
Level 44:    Psionic Tornado            Rgn-Dmg(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), PstBls-Dam%(45), ExpStr-Dam%(45), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(46), FrcFdb-Rechg%(46)
Level 47:    Mind Over Body            StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctArm-ResDam(48), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(48), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(48)
Level 49:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1:    Containment    
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Health                Mrc-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50:    Intuition Radial Paragon    
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I have tweaked around with my elec/time build somewhat:

 

S/L res are just capped, with Power Boost all def is capped. I need a bit more clarity on that though as power boost increases the def provided by Hover and Weave but because they are toggles i think when the effects of power boost ends the boosted def from them ends. Obviously that wont effect Farsight which wil bring the total def down to 41% which is fine considering i have PB down to 24 sec rech.

 

The slotting in Conductive Aura and Chrono Shift are purely for set bonuses but i also wanted to see how Power Transfer: Chance to Heal Self will proc in CA.

 

Synaptic Overload is a strange power as its not really so much of an aoe. You fire the power at an enemy and it jumps between the adds like Jolting Chain. As such i wanted to test the application of damage procs in it and see how effective it is. The confuse duration is negligible at this point as everything will typically be dead before it expires. The 3 Superior Will of the Controller are there for the proc and the set bonuses.

 

Slowed Response has minimal slotting, if the target is effected by Time Crawl and you have Power Boost up SL will do -63.98% def which is pretty hefty. -27% res plus the chance for an additional -20% res from the Achilles proc.

 

Temporal selection for the gremlins for extra dmg and survivability.

 

Id like to try World of Confusion but i ultimately think this build will be better.

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Electric Control
Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Tesla Cage            NrnSht-Acc/EndRdx(A), NrnSht-Dam%(3), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(3), UnbCns-Dam%(5), GldNet-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Dam%(7)
Level 1:    Time Crawl            Acc-I(A)
Level 2:    Chain Fences            SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(A), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(7), JvlVll-Dam%(9), PstBls-Dam%(9), Ann-ResDeb%(11), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(11)
Level 4:    Temporal Mending        Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(13), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(13), Prv-Heal/Rchg(15), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(15), Prv-Absorb%(17)
Level 6:    Jolting Chain            SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), FrcFdb-Rechg%(19), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(19), Apc-Dam%(21), GldJvl-Dam%(21)
Level 8:    Conductive Aura            PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-Dam/Rech(23), PwrTrns-Dam/EndMod(23), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/End(25), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/Rech/End(25), PwrTrns-+Heal(27)
Level 10:    Time's Juncture            DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(27), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(29), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(29)
Level 12:    Temporal Selection        RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14:    Hover                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16:    Distortion Field        GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(A), NrnSht-Dam%(31), GldNet-Dam%(31), Lck-%Hold(31), ImpSwf-Dam%(48)
Level 18:    Fly                Frb-Stlth(A)
Level 20:    Kick                Empty(A)
Level 22:    Tough                StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(33), GldArm-End/Res(33)
Level 24:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 26:    Synaptic Overload        Ccp-Dam%(A), MlsIll-Dam%(33), CrcPrs-Conf%(34), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(36), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(36)
Level 28:    Farsight            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(37), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), LucoftheG-Def(37)
Level 30:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 32:    Gremlins            ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(42)
Level 35:    Power Blast            Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Apc-Acc/Rchg(43), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 38:    Chrono Shift            SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech(42), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(42), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(43), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(43)
Level 41:    Energy Torrent            FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(45), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), PstBls-Dam%(45), ExpStr-Dam%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46)
Level 44:    Temp Invulnerability        TtnCtn-ResDam(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(46), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 47:    Power Boost            RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49:    Slowed Response            AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(50)
Level 1:    Containment    
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Health                NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50:    Intuition Radial Paragon    
Level 50:    Clarion Total Radial Invocation    
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So i have another variant of the build and i think im going to stick with this one perhaps.

 

Slightly less defence than before but with Clarion Radial Epiphany and Power boost applied to Farsight that bumps the defence up past cap.

 

Hasten is at 124.7s rech and Chrono Shift is at 102.5s, but im hoping that the Force Feedback procs in Jolting Chain and Energy Torrent will be enough to push the rech to perma as i will be spamming both powers.

 

I went with Spirit Ward over Arcane Bolt purely because i didnt have any slots to make bolt viable. I likely wont even put ward on my hotbar. The only reason for taking Sorcery is for Enflame. With procs it hits like a truck!

 

Slightly out of context but does anyone know how often Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: Chance for Build Up will trigger in Tactics?

 

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In my leveling of the character i did take it at 35, i just messed up in mids.

 

I've not tested Distortion field with the procs yet to see how often they hit. Have you at all?

 

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This could work. The force feedback procs take Slowed Response rech down to 22s which is fine. I have read somewhere on the forums that its applications dont stack.

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Yup, I've run them through my parser a good few times. Procs are one reason I wrote an online Log Parser. The proc rates on "patches which act like wide-area toggles" is sadly poor. Proc rates on anything you drop which then spams attacks (things like Volcanic Gasses or Creepers) can be good, depending on how many of the pseudo-pets attacks can trigger it. 

 

Ditto for low recharge, large AOE powers I'm afraid. Procs aren't great in AoE immobs for example. Decent in Jolting though (because its "single target" each jump). 

 

Enflame is okay for procs. Not amazing but just about worthwhile (honestly Controller Enflame should be doing containment damage given the damage rate it was given). Enflame is very good DPA though, especially if you are fighting something very tough (like an AV). It's really, really good in the Summer Blockbuster arena for example and most controllers always have a target for it in their pet. 

 

If you proc up Synaptic (the confuse) with damage procs it will alert things when the damage procs go off. That kind of borks one use of it (applying it before the combat starts and letting it percolate through the spawn).

 

Arcane Bolt > Sorcery Flight > Enflame & Conserve Power > Torrent > Temp Inv > Power Boost might work better for you given Arcanes ability to "crit" / "power up". Would also give you a Blast much earlier in the game (Elecs damage sucks). 

 

I have read somewhere on the forums that its applications dont stack

They don't. But they do replace each other and can be chained. This is actually better than they used to be where Trigger 1 would block it retriggering for 10 seconds. That was done away with. Now you can cast 1 power with it, do 1 or 2 other things then cast the 2nd and (hopefully) extend / reapply the buff. Some builds leverage this (Energy blast "mad king" builds). 

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Yeah i often just drop the procs in aoe immob on trollers because the chance to hit is like 10% or something so i usually allocate the slots elsewhere but with Elecs dmg being low i wanted to try get as much out of it as possible. 

 

I wanted to load Synaptic up with procs just to see how often it would work really and of course add in more dps. I want to experiment with it more but i might just swap it out for 5 coercive persuasion later on.

 

THB i had considered Arcane bolt over Power blast. I just wish the cast time was faster with AB.

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