I-Dirty Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 How is this combo if you have done it Pros/cons? Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts.
ThrillMill Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 Pros: Amazing durability and sustainability. Radiation Armor is widely considered among the best in the game and with IOs is possibly is THE best. Allows for perma absorb, a robust -tohit debuff toggle, amazing scope of high resists to all damage types, Superior +Recharge when surrounded by mobs. Dark Melee adds a 10% Heal (unenhanced), +End management, +tohit/+Dmg that can be made perma, a typically unresisted damage type (negative) and some revamped AoE goodness in Touch of Fear and Shadow Maul. Cons: Some lament Dark's AoE damage but this is far less of an issue nowadays with the much improved Shadow Maul and decently good ToF. The addition of the Epic and Judgement AoE powers helps a good bit as well. I currently run both a Rad/Dark/Soul Tanker as well as a Dark/Rad/Soul Brute. There's very little downside to the combo that I can see. I have been overwhelmed and defeated by SWARMS of 54 mobs in the ITF and LRTF (looking at you, Longbow!) but this is entirely because I was LERROY JENKINS'ing the situation. No man is an island, I learned. Overall, I would rank the tandem as a 9.1 on a scale of 10.
I-Dirty Posted September 30, 2021 Author Posted September 30, 2021 yeah working on builds with mids cant seem to get the resists where I want them. Of course I know shit about dark and what you should/should not take and how to slot it. NEVER done dark melee...but thinking about it. Found I LOVE rad armor Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts.
ThrillMill Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 What threshold are you looking to reach or surpass from a Resistance standpoint? Have you included the Steadfast Protection +5% Unique IO? Are you willing to utilize the Tanker ATO IO that proc an extra 6% Resistance? Dark Melee is in such a better place now than at any other time in CoX's history. I'd say the "Must Have" Powers now, in my opinion, would be... 1. Smite: Great DPA and DPE stats. It's my bread and butter attack chain keystone. I'll typically throw the Hecatomb 5 into it for the amazing set bonuses. 2. Shadow Maul: It's now a formidable "conical" attack that'll slap upwards of 10 mobs. The Tanker Arc boost, coupled with a reduced animation time have made this an incredible weapon. I like to slot with a complete 6 slotted Tanker ATO. 3. Touch of Fear (ToF): Prior to the buff, this power was near skippable. It provided a hefty 15% tohit debuff and a Mag 3 Fear if memory serves correctly but 0 damage. Now, it'll Fear a Lt. Level mob AND moderate AoE damage on nearby mobs. I personally love it. Slotting this power is more open ended for me. Some people like to proc it to the gills. I personally like chasing set bonuses and will usually throw the other Tanker ATO in here OR the Winter IO/Purple Set. YMMV. 4. Siphon Life: A good attack and sustain power. If your secondary lacks any healing; I'd argue you'd really want this power. Rad Armor doesn't necessarily NEED it but I take it all the same for AV content and other robust action. I like to slot it with 4 Kinetic Combat(s) + 2 Touch of the Nictus Acc/Heal/Recharge IOs if I'm chasing S/L Defense bonuses. I've also tried 5 Hecatomb + 1 Heal IO and even 5 Crushing Impacts + 1 Heal IO. 5. Soul Drain: This is the set's defining power IMHO. A PBAoE Build-Up like power that has a 30 second duration that will grant additional +DMG and +ToHit for each mob you hit with it. Oh, and with enough +Recharge in your build; it can be made Perma. This is why I'll chase IO sets that offer +Recharge when playing Dark Melee. 10/10 Star. Must have. Slotting for this power is pretty wide open, however, you'd best be damn sure you fit 90%+ recharge in there somehow. I'll usually 4 slot with 3 from the winter's PBAoE IO (Avalanche I think?) and the Guassian's Proc for Build-Up. 6. Midnight Grasp: So, I mean, I like the power. But as far as T9 Powers go, it isn't the best(tm). It's 100% Negative Damage, which is good, but it lacks that up front "OOOF" kinda damage as a % is Damage Over Time (DoT) or ticks. I take it and 6 slot it with the Winter IO Set Blistering Cold. I love the stat bonuses in general and for some reason, when the set's "Chance to Hold" proc fires off; I enjoy how the tentacles look hovering over an ice ensconced mob. It's a really dumb reason all things considered but hey, you gotta have fun too. Slot as you see fit.
I-Dirty Posted September 30, 2021 Author Posted September 30, 2021 Oh if I make it im gonna go for broke like I do with all my characters. My friends think im crazy doing that but I have nothing better to do so why no 1 Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts.
I-Dirty Posted September 30, 2021 Author Posted September 30, 2021 Trying to cap out resists in mids is like trying to pull my teeth out with a spoon right now lo Of course I am sick and tired with a massive headache so thats not helping lol Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts.
Bionic_Flea Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 Rad/Dark is one of my favorite tanks - 1000 point perma-absorb, capped to high resists, virtually unlimited endurance, two-personal heals, one team heal, a no-crash T9, pretty high damage with Soul Drain and Meltdown, soft-capped defense - all these can be yours . . . with a good build. Here's mine: Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Comedic Flea-Revised II: Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Radiation ArmorSecondary Power Set: Dark MeleePower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: Leadership Hero Profile:Level 1: Alpha Barrier (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (7) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (33) Aegis - Resistance (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: Shadow Punch (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (3) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Gamma Boost (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (42) Preventive Medicine - Heal Level 4: Smite (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (9) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (9) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (11) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb Level 6: Proton Armor (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (15) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 8: Fallout Shelter (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic ResistanceLevel 10: Shadow Maul (A) Obliteration - Damage (17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (19) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 12: Radiation Therapy (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (37) Armageddon - Damage (39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance Level 14: Combat Jumping (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (15) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 16: Beta Decay (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (34) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 18: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi DamageLevel 20: Particle Shielding (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 22: Siphon Life (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (45) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 24: Touch of Fear (A) Obliteration - Damage (25) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (25) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 26: Ground Zero (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (46) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 28: Soul Drain (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (29) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 30: Boxing (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/DamageLevel 32: Meltdown (A) HamiO:Ribosome ExposureLevel 35: Dark Consumption (A) Obliteration - Damage (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 38: Midnight Grasp (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (46) Hecatomb - Damage (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance Level 41: Tough (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (42) Aegis - Resistance (42) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance Level 44: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 47: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (23) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 50: Ageless Radial EpiphanyLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Assault Radial EmbodimentLevel 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Cardiac Core ParagonLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: The Atlas MedallionLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve------------ 1 1
I-Dirty Posted September 30, 2021 Author Posted September 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said: Rad/Dark is one of my favorite tanks - 1000 point perma-absorb, capped to high resists, virtually unlimited endurance, two-personal heals, one team heal, a no-crash T9, pretty high damage with Soul Drain and Meltdown, soft-capped defense - all these can be yours . . . with a good build. Here's mine: Reveal hidden contents This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Comedic Flea-Revised II: Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Radiation ArmorSecondary Power Set: Dark MeleePower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: Leadership Hero Profile:Level 1: Alpha Barrier (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (7) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (33) Aegis - Resistance (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: Shadow Punch (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (3) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Gamma Boost (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (42) Preventive Medicine - Heal Level 4: Smite (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (9) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (9) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (11) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb Level 6: Proton Armor (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (15) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 8: Fallout Shelter (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 10: Shadow Maul (A) Obliteration - Damage (17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (19) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 12: Radiation Therapy (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (37) Armageddon - Damage (39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance Level 14: Combat Jumping (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (15) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 16: Beta Decay (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (34) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 18: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 20: Particle Shielding (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 22: Siphon Life (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (45) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 24: Touch of Fear (A) Obliteration - Damage (25) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (25) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 26: Ground Zero (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (46) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 28: Soul Drain (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (29) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 30: Boxing (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage Level 32: Meltdown (A) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure Level 35: Dark Consumption (A) Obliteration - Damage (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 38: Midnight Grasp (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (46) Hecatomb - Damage (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance Level 41: Tough (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (42) Aegis - Resistance (42) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance Level 44: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 47: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (23) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 50: Ageless Radial EpiphanyLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Assault Radial EmbodimentLevel 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Cardiac Core ParagonLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: The Atlas MedallionLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve------------ Now what im wondering is I got rid of a lot of the defense changed a lot around and now almost everything is resistance capped...82.55 cold and 79.25 Negative Is that resistance going up worth the loss of defense? Also i linked it like that because I cant seem to link and long form anymore https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1575&c=775&a=1550&f=HEX&dc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hy yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts.
Bionic_Flea Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 Obviously, I don't think so, or my build would be closer to yours. But you do you! If you prefer the resists to the defense, go for it.
I-Dirty Posted September 30, 2021 Author Posted September 30, 2021 IM just wondering if its better to have slightly lower resists for more defense...stop making me think! It hurts!! 😄 Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts.
Bionic_Flea Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Don't forget that you have Meltdown for an additional 20% resist to all, UNSLOTTED, for 60 seconds.
Flynnstonez Posted October 5, 2022 Posted October 5, 2022 Tried this build out, realized that the main strategy should be capping out your res, then def second. Ignoring the main point of your armor is a death sentence in end-game content. 1
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