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Let me know what you think. I'm happy with the resists, but I would like to increase defenses. Also, I have no idea how to check pet stats ūüėě

 

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Thermal Radiation
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Heat Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(7)
Level 1: Warmth -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(11)
Level 2: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 4: Lash -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Dam%(15), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Hct-Acc/Rchg(17), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(17)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), Rct-ResDam%(19), Rct-Def(21)
Level 10: Plasma Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(A), SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(23), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(25), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SvrRgh-Acc(27), SvrRgh-PetResDam(27)
Level 14: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(29), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(42), AdjTrg-Rchg(43)
Level 16: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Hell on Earth -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(31), EdcoftheM-PetDef(31), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(33)
Level 22: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(33), TchofDth-Dam%(37), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(39), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(34), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(34), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(36)
Level 28: Forge -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(36), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(37)
Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-ResDam(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(37)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Heat Exhaustion -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Melt Armor -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(39), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(39), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ShlBrk-%Dam(50)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Bonfire -- Ann-ResDeb%(A)
Level 1: Supremacy 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40)
Level 1: Cold Demonling 
Level 26: Demon Prince 
Level 12: Ember Demon 
Level 1: Fiery Demonling 
Level 1: Hellfire Demonling 
Level 12: Hellfire Gargoyle 
Level 18: Afterburner 
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Hey @Erhnam

 

Took a look at your build, here's my thoughts -

1. You can split up 2 of your Superior Mark of Supremacies to trade a little resist for 10% recharge.

2. You can put damage procs into pets, they are a noticeable difference.

3. You should slot KB to KD in bonfire, if nothing else.

4. You have Fireblast, Fireball, and Lash. I would pick one, you really don't need all 3. 

5. You can slot Tactics with Gussians chance for build up.

6. You can slot a pet with Soulbound chance for build up. When it pops it is very noticeable, i would suggest either your t2 or t3 pets, depending on preference.

7. If you dropped one of your personal attacks, you could pick up Weave, which will be more Defense.

8. I would add 1 more slot to Hell on Earth if you can, and slot it with a plain Recharge Reduction.

9 If you swapped the set in Lash to Blistering Cold that's another 5% defense.

 

Here's what I put together for you. I might be able to do better but I am on my way out for work, this is a rush job on the suggested fixes, but has a good bit higher defense -

 

PS - I forgot to change the slot in Bonfire from KB to KD. Hehe sorry for that one, was rushed!

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Thermal Radiation
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Heat Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(5), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(7)
Level 1: Warmth -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(11)
Level 2: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 4: Lash -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(33)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Rct-Def(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx(37), Rct-Def/Rchg(39)
Level 10: Plasma Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(A), SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(23), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(25), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SvrRgh-Acc(27), SvrRgh-PetResDam(27)
Level 14: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(29), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(29), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--Build%(43)
Level 16: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(17)
Level 18: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Hell on Earth -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(31), EdcoftheM-PetDef(31), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(33), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 22: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(34), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(34), SlbAll-Build%(36), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(36)
Level 28: Forge -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(36), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(37)
Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(37)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Heat Exhaustion -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Melt Armor -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(39), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(39), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ShlBrk-%Dam(50)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(45), Rct-Def/EndRdx(45), Rct-Def/Rchg(45), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Rct-ResDam%(47)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Bonfire -- Ann-ResDeb%(A)
Level 1: Supremacy 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40)
Level 1: Cold Demonling 
Level 26: Demon Prince 
Level 12: Ember Demon 
Level 1: Fiery Demonling 
Level 1: Hellfire Demonling 
Level 12: Hellfire Gargoyle 
Level 18: Afterburner 
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Erhnam demons-thermal.mxd

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Hey @Neiska !!

 

Thanks a lot for your time and your input! You managed to get some big improvement on the defenses, and probably on the pet's damage as well, so I guess the resistance loss is a worthy trade-off

 

Something I noticed: In Weave you can remove the LotG recharge and add the last Reactive Defenses enhancement. The 6-piece bonus is 8'75%, 1% higher thanl LotG (unless I'm missing something!)

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I don't have access right now to confirm (at work right now) but its possible! Worth checking out. And the Def vs Res isn't so clear cut with MMs, with heals, bodyguard mode and whatnot, as a lot of that also depends on your pets values which we don't have access too. But either way I am confident in saying this build will perform just fine at +4/8. 

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Hello Erhnam & Neiska,

I recommend not placing a Ghost Widow's Embrace:  Chance of Damage in Demon Prince.  The proc would only trigger when the Prince uses his Block of Ice power.   Admittedly, the Prince uses this power quite a bit - I believe he opens with it.   But your Prince would proc significantly more by slotting slow procs(aka -Speed) into him.

 

 

DemonSummoing SummonDemonPrince.png Summon Demon Prince

Summons forth a foul Demon Prince from the deepest reaches of the Abyss. The Demon Prince is mighty among its kind and is a master of cold powers. It serves the conjuror only so that it may wreak havoc upon the material plane. The Demon has some defense versus lethal, smashing, fire and cold attacks. You may only have 1 Demon Prince under your control at any given time. If you attempt to summon another Demon Prince the power will fail.

Recharge Very Long
Minimum Level V archetypeicon mastermind.png 26 (Mastermind)
Effects Summon Demon Prince
Basic Powers IceAssault IceBlast.png Ice Blast (Moderate Damage, -Recharge, -Speed)
  IceFormation Shiver.png Shiver (Cone -Recharge, -Speed)
Equip Powers IceAssault ChillingEmbrace.png Chilling Embrace {Area -Recharge, -Speed)
  IceAssault IceSword.png Ice Sword (Moderate Damage, -Recharge, -Speed)
  IceFormation BlockOfIce.png Block of Ice (Moderate Damage, Hold, -Recharge, -Speed)
Upgrade Powers IceAssault IceSwordCleave.png Ice Slash (High Damage, -Recharge, -Speed)
  IcyOnslaught FrozenAura.png Frozen Aura (Area Moderate Damage, Sleep)
Enhancements TO Training Accuracy.png Enhance Accuracy
  TO Training Damage.png Enhance Damage
  TO Training Endurance Cost.png Reduce Endurance Cost
  TO Training Hold Duration.png Enhance Hold Duration
  TO Training Sleep Duration.png Enhance Sleep Duration
  TO Training Slow powers.png Enhance Slow
Set Categories V archetypeicon mastermind.png Pet Damage
  IO Hold.png Holds
  IO Sleep.png Sleep
  IO Snare.png Slow Movement

 

 

Since Neiska was kind enough to post a build, I put something together.   Not to take advantage of +Def set bonuses, but to take advantage of +Recharge.  I can safely say that any /Thermal MM would like more +Recharge.

Oh, one other thing, the Soulbound Allegiance:  Chance for Build Up works fantastic in Summon Demons.  Its ok in the Prince power, but really shines in Summon Demons.

 

 

bellona10 - Demon.Poison3.mxd

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Good catch about Ghost Widow proc! I will change it to Slow proc

 

I will check your build when I fix Mids (it has stopped working for some reason ūüėē ) But you seem to have posted a /Poison build, not a /Thermal one ūüôā

 

EDIT: Nevermind, I see your intention ūüôā¬†I'll study it!

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5 hours ago, Neiska said:

PS - I forgot to change the slot in Bonfire from KB to KD. Hehe sorry for that one, was rushed!

Question about this! Isn't the Overwhelming Force KB to KD enough for this? Or is it not global? Sorry for so many questions, I just came back after a looong vacation from the City ūüôā

 

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4 minutes ago, Erhnam said:

Question about this! Isn't the Overwhelming Force KB to KD enough for this? Or is it not global? Sorry for so many questions, I just came back after a looong vacation from the City ūüôā

 

 

No, you can use the sudden acceleration KB to KD proc.

 

Also @hellona100, while you are correct the prince opens with that attack, it is also a higher rate of added damage. But you really cant go wrong with any proc, all of them I have tried are noticeable in damage. It varies by pet type, as beasts seem to be the best at Procs, followed by Robots. But Demons do pretty well with them too.

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