Stalker Lite: Ninjitsu

[SableShrike]

So I rolled a Katana/Ninjitsu and have been messing around with Shinobi’s +crit.  I immediately took Combat Jumping with a +stealth IO after it for “full” stealth.

 

It isn’t guaranteed, but from what I’ve read crits from Shinobi are: +30% if AoE, and +65% single-target.

 

So with the global +crit IO, that’d mean my Soaring Dragon is +73% or more to crit from Stealth.

 

What I can’t seem to find is how much is the extra crit bonus for Golden Dragonfly?

 

Pretty sure Soaring Dragon is still the better strike for leveraging the Shinobi crit.

 

Conversely, The Lotus Drops from Shinobi is pretty great in a full mob spawn.  Usually see 4-5 crits.

 

P.S.  I was messing about with Street Justice:  Muscular Core, Assault Radial, Combo 3, the Build Up proc in Combat Readiness, and two purple damage procs you can clear 2000 damage with a Crushing Uppercut from Shinobi when it crits.  Sheer brutality.

 

 

Edited January 14 by SableShrike

[Hero Star]

28 minutes ago, SableShrike said:

So I rolled a Katana/Ninjitsu and have been messing around with Shinobi’s +crit.  I immediately took Combat Jumping with a +stealth IO after it for “full” stealth.

 

It isn’t guaranteed, but from what I’ve read crits from Shinobi are: +30% if AoE, and +65% single-target.

 

So with the global +crit IO, that’d mean my Soaring Dragon is +73% or more to crit from Stealth.

 

What I can’t seem to find is how much is the extra crit bonus for Golden Dragonfly?

 

Pretty sure Soaring Dragon is still the better strike for leveraging the Shinobi crit.

 

Conversely, The Lotus Drops from Shinobi is pretty great in a full mob spawn.  Usually see 4-5 crits.

 

P.S.  I was messing about with Street Justice:  Muscular Core, Assault Radial, Combo 3, the Build Up proc in Combat Readiness, and two purple damage procs you can clear 2000 damage with a Crushing Uppercut from Shinobi when it crits.  Sheer brutality.

 

 

CoD is showing 15% base crit for Soaring Dragon.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=scrapper_melee.katana.head_splitter&at=scrapper

[SableShrike]

So 15% Golden, 30% Shinobi AoE, and 8% from the global ATO.  So 53% chance to crit from stealth with Golden Dragonfly.

 

Not bad, but I'd say against a single target it's almost always going to be better to use Soaring for a closer to 80% crit chance (and higher Hecatomb proc chance).

Edited January 14 by SableShrike

[Hero Star]

3 minutes ago, SableShrike said:

So 15% Soaring, 65% Shinobi, and 8% from the global ATO.  88% chance to crit from stealth with Soaring aint bad.

I don't think Shinobi ignores other crit % increases, but maybe someone can confirm.

 

I believe Seismic Smash has the highest base crit chance at 20%.

[Uun]

30 minutes ago, SableShrike said:

So with the global +crit IO, that’d mean my Soaring Dragon is +73% or more to crit from Stealth.

You're misunderstanding the ATOs. The Superior Scrapper's Strike global increases your crit chance by 3% against minions and 6% against higher ranked foes. (Regular Scrapper's Strike is 2% / 4%). 

 

2 minutes ago, Hero Star said:

CoD is showing 15% base crit for Soaring Dragon.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=scrapper_melee.katana.head_splitter&at=scrapper

No, Golden Dragonfly has the 15% base crit chance. Soaring Dragon is 5% against minions and pets and 10% for higher ranked foes.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=scrapper_melee.katana.head_splitter&at=scrapper

[Hero Star]

4 hours ago, Uun said:

You're misunderstanding the ATOs. The Superior Scrapper's Strike global increases your crit chance by 3% against minions and 6% against higher ranked foes. (Regular Scrapper's Strike is 2% / 4%). 

 

No, Golden Dragonfly has the 15% base crit chance. Soaring Dragon is 5% against minions and pets and 10% for higher ranked foes.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=scrapper_melee.katana.head_splitter&at=scrapper

That's right, I got my attacks mixed up, thanks.

[Story Archer]

On 1/14/2025 at 9:38 AM, SableShrike said:

So I rolled a Katana/Ninjitsu and have been messing around with Shinobi’s +crit.  I immediately took Combat Jumping with a +stealth IO after it for “full” stealth.

 

 

My Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper is the strongest, most versatile and most fun character I've ever played. Definitely the best choice for solo play since she can lay waste in combat and has incredibly high stealth when she wants to bypass entire missions. The bonus criticals are just icing on the cake.