Gerswin Posted Friday at 04:47 PM Posted Friday at 04:47 PM Lash 1 Ranged whip attack Summon Spearman 1 Summon spear wielding warriors Crack Whip 2 Melee Cone Equip Warriors 6 Gives spearmen shields, archers armor, barbarian titan sword Dogs of War 8 Summons pack of armored dogs Archers 12 Summon Archers Berserk! 18 Henchman buff, +Dam, -def Barbarian 22 Summon barbarian warrior Elite training 26 Ranged, Empower Warrior Henchman This primary allows a whip-wielding mastermind warlord to send his or her primitively equipped but physically imposing forces into battle.
mistagoat Posted Friday at 06:07 PM Posted Friday at 06:07 PM I don't think you can give a MM 4 summon pets unless one of them is non-permanent like gang war. Dogs of War could probably fill that role but you might need to push it to a higher level. Thugs get GW at 18. SPOON!
General Idiot Posted Friday at 09:03 PM Posted Friday at 09:03 PM Yeah, for this to fit the mold of a normal pet set you'd need to pick either Dogs of War or Berserk for the level 18 power, move Crack Whip to level 8 and add a second single target attack at level 2. And personally, I don't think I'd want a whip as my weapon for a set like this. Though admittedly I'm not sure what else would work. A bow is the obvious one but ninjas already has the bow. They could recycle some weapon models from the Circle of Thorns and give it a crossbow perhaps, the existing rifle stance and animations from Beam Rifle would at least mostly look right for one so it'd just need the particle FX to be done. When life gives you lemonade, make lemons. Life will be all like "What?" [Admin] Emperor Marcus Cole: STOP! [Admin] Emperor Marcus Cole: WAIT ONE SECOND! [Admin] Emperor Marcus Cole: WHAT IS A SEAGULL DOING ON MY THRONE!?!?
Rudra Posted Friday at 09:20 PM Posted Friday at 09:20 PM (edited) 35 minutes ago, General Idiot said: Yeah, for this to fit the mold of a normal pet set you'd need to pick either Dogs of War or Berserk for the level 18 power, move Crack Whip to level 8 and add a second single target attack at level 2. And personally, I don't think I'd want a whip as my weapon for a set like this. Though admittedly I'm not sure what else would work. A bow is the obvious one but ninjas already has the bow. They could recycle some weapon models from the Circle of Thorns and give it a crossbow perhaps, the existing rifle stance and animations from Beam Rifle would at least mostly look right for one so it'd just need the particle FX to be done. To fit the Mastermind AT like you say, it needs a couple more changes than that. I misread your post, sorry. You already covered all the things I thought you missed. A quick breakdown (for the OP): Level 1 (Add missing non-AoE attack, probably Corruption given MM attack sequencing and established whip powers) Level 1 Summon Spearman Level 2 Lash (Would actually go here.) Level 6 Equip Warriors Level 8 Crack Whip (Short range cone) Level 12 Archers Level 18 Berserk! or Dogs of War (Pick one for implementation. Devs won't do another Practiced/Master Brawler set up.) Level 22 Barbarian Level 26 Elite Training Now, as for not using whip? How about Staff Fighting or Battle Axe? Then it could be like this: Level 1 Mercurial Blow/Beheader Level 1 Summon Spearman Level 2 Precise Strike/Chop Level 6 Equip Warriors Level 8 Guarded Spin/Pendulum Level 12 Archers Level 18 Berserk!/Dogs of War Level 22 Barbarian Level 26 Elite Training Sure, this transitions the MM to melee attacks, but it would still fit the theme and there have been requests for melee MMs as well. If Staff Fighting and Battle Axe don't work? Then there is still Broadsword, Dual Blades, and War Mace. Or if ranged is to be retained, maybe Sonic Attack for the ancient war leader's bellowing voice? Edit again: Or hells, steal from the Cimerorans: Level 1 Dart Throw (Derived from Toxic Dart in the Experimentation power pool, just uses lethal rather than toxic damage and has damage scale adjusted) Level 1 Summon Spearman Level 2 Pilum Level 6 Equip Warriors Level 8 Frag Grenade (Cimeroran Traitor Immunes Engineer version) Level 12 Archers Level 18 Berserk!/Dogs of War Level 22 Barbarian Level 26 Elite Training Edited Friday at 09:40 PM by Rudra Edited to strike out 1st sentence and add 2 sentences after struck out sentence. 1
Gerswin Jr Posted Saturday at 01:08 AM Posted Saturday at 01:08 AM I like all of the suggestions. I was mostly trying to suggest the theme and to have a canine gang war clone. I figured that the whip animation was the least used and had potential for both melee and ranged. I also wanted to avoid anything overtly supernatural in the powers. Also, I believe masterminds are one of 2 non epic ATs that have no new primary power sets since live, so I thought this could work with minimal new animations.
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