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Several blaster secondary toggle heal/absorb powers do not work with the Numina and Miracle procs


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Several toggle heals in blaster secondaries do not work correctly when toggled on with the Numina (Rec/regen) and Miracle (Rec) procs:
 
Cauterizing aura (X/Fire blaster)
Mud bath (X/Earth blaster)
Frigid protection (X/Ice blaster)
 
When toggled on, the heal powers function normally but without adding the proc bonuses to their respective combat attribute category.
 
Other, similar, secondary heal/absorb toggles are functioning properly:
 
Metabolic acceleration (X/Atomic manipulation blaster)
Field operative (X/Devices blaster)
Reaction time (X/MA blaster)
Wild fortress (X/Plant blaster)
Sound barrier (X/Sonic blaster)
Eagle eye (X/TA blaster)
Temporal healing (X/Temporal blaster)
 
NOTE: Rise to the challenge (X/Willpower brute), a Brute secondary is not functioning correctly either, which means I'll have to test those out too, later.
 
this report is building off of the report by @brass_eagle
Edited by Ridiculous Girl
fixed something

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one possibility is that since these are all PBAOEs they are only activating the procs in the presence of enemies in melee range. 

 

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12 hours ago, Ridiculous Girl said:

one possibility is that since these are all PBAOEs they are only activating the procs in the presence of enemies in melee range. 

this is now confirmed, must be in melee range with enemies for the procs to work correctly. 

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"Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre"

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"وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب”

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6 hours ago, Ridiculous Girl said:

this is now confirmed, must be in melee range with enemies for the procs to work correctly. 

   Unfortunately THAT is WAI and won't be changed.  This is because of the interaction with the Theft of Essence proc in Cauterizing Aura and similar powers.  When you are target saturated, that +End proc actually goes crazy and is basically as strong as slotting Endmod to directly boost the Recovery.  As long as you get within range of an enemy every 120s minimum, then stuff like Numina's unique should still be working fine with no downtime.

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4 hours ago, Shin Magmus said:

   Unfortunately THAT is WAI and won't be changed.  This is because of the interaction with the Theft of Essence proc in Cauterizing Aura and similar powers.  When you are target saturated, that +End proc actually goes crazy and is basically as strong as slotting Endmod to directly boost the Recovery.  As long as you get within range of an enemy every 120s minimum, then stuff like Numina's unique should still be working fine with no downtime.

the ones that i am concerned about are not the ones that are "chance to" but the ones that should be "on", like Miracle +recovery. usually they are in health, for example, which as an auto power, the +rec is always on. but it they are in a click power they should be automatically on for 120 seconds. in this case, they are in a toggle, which if WAI they should be active while the toggle is active. they are not, they are acting like they are in a click power.  

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"Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre"

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"وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب”

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