Story Archer Posted Thursday at 11:22 PM Posted Thursday at 11:22 PM (edited) It seems to be begging for more damage procs than it can hold, but with the way procs have been changed, is that really the way to go? Slot for the various mez durations? A straight set of something like Unbreakable Constraint or Coercive Persuasion for the bonuses? I'd be really interested in hearing what people's impressions are of the power now that they've used it for a bit. Consume Psyche too, for that matter. Edited Thursday at 11:22 PM by Story Archer Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
lemming Posted Friday at 12:22 AM Posted Friday at 12:22 AM I six slotted Cupid's Crush and it's amusing there. I wound up solo in a Penny Yin and Clamor wound up wiping out 1/2 her troops
Maelwys Posted Friday at 12:26 AM Posted Friday at 12:26 AM If you want to mez higher-level bosses; you'll need 3x Acc/Mez HOs. If not, then 1 Acc/Mez HO is enough to mez even-level Bosses and +3 LTs. Offensive Procs aren't wonderful in it; but buff procs (Like Entomb) work just fine. I personally like putting a Coercive Persuasion "Contagious Confusion" Proc in it too - I've got the Stalker version slotted like this: Note that you'll need a fair chunk of accuracy to reach 95% Hit Rate in it vs +3 foes. Mids still falsely claims it's got a 1.00 Accuracy Modifier whenever it's really only 0.80 1
Story Archer Posted Friday at 04:45 AM Author Posted Friday at 04:45 AM (edited) 5 hours ago, Erratic1 said: Thanks for that. I think I'm going to go with an Endoplasm Exposure (Acc/Mez) Hami-O, a Coercive Confusion proc plus the ACC/Hold and Absorb proc from Superior Entomb, grab that little F/C Res bump while I'm at it. We'll see how it goes. Anyone know if Coercive Confusion synergizes well with this power, or is the Confusion aspect of it too random? Edited Friday at 05:01 AM by Story Archer 1 Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
Maelwys Posted Friday at 07:13 AM Posted Friday at 07:13 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, Story Archer said: Anyone know if Coercive Confusion synergizes well with this power, or is the Confusion aspect of it too random? It has a fairly low chance of triggering, however the Proc's effects inflict a separate AoE confuse which can kick in once every 10 seconds regardless of whether any enemies are currently being subjected to a Confuse effect by the aura power itself. So if you're surrounded by tightly packed enemies you'll notice some extra minions and LTs getting confused for 6-10 seconds at a time. Edited Friday at 07:14 AM by Maelwys
Story Archer Posted Friday at 12:35 PM Author Posted Friday at 12:35 PM 5 hours ago, Maelwys said: It has a fairly low chance of triggering, however the Proc's effects inflict a separate AoE confuse which can kick in once every 10 seconds regardless of whether any enemies are currently being subjected to a Confuse effect by the aura power itself. So if you're surrounded by tightly packed enemies you'll notice some extra minions and LTs getting confused for 6-10 seconds at a time. Hm. So maybe if I wanted to lean into the confusion effect, it might be better to slot for Coercive Persuasion and the Cupid's Crush proc? That should allow things to start stacking fairly reliably, no? I was hesitant at first, since I'm actually running this on a Brute and I know that being attacked ramps up Fury, but that really shouldn't be an issue, should it? Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
Maelwys Posted Friday at 02:24 PM Posted Friday at 02:24 PM 1 hour ago, Story Archer said: Hm. So maybe if I wanted to lean into the confusion effect, it might be better to slot for Coercive Persuasion and the Cupid's Crush proc? That should allow things to start stacking fairly reliably, no? I was hesitant at first, since I'm actually running this on a Brute and I know that being attacked ramps up Fury, but that really shouldn't be an issue, should it? So as an 8ft Toggle, Aura of Insanity would have a 39.47% chance (per target) of a 4.5PPM Proc like Contagious Confusion Proc kicking in every 10 seconds. However Cupid's Crush is only 2.5PPM; which is a 21.93% chance of kicking in once every 10 seconds. (i) When Contagious Confusion kicks in, it applies a 20ft Radius AoE (hitting up to 5 targets; excluding the original) which has a 33% chance to inflict a 10s Mag3 Confusion. The upshot is that there's about a 34.142% likelihood for at least one target to be hit by that Mag3 confusion effect (which will affect up to LTs). (ii) When Cupid's Crush kicks in, it applies an 8s Mag2 Confusion (which will only affect minions) So if you have enough spare enhancement slots then they'd both technically be able to stack with each other; sure. But in terms of comparative power a ~21.9% chance to affect a minion is much worse than a ~34.1% chance to affect at least one minion or LT; so IMO slotting Cupids is probably going to be a waste of a precious enhancement slot. 1
lemming Posted Friday at 02:45 PM Posted Friday at 02:45 PM I suppose I could see if putting Contagious Confusion in one of the slots increases the chances, though that would decrease the Cupid's Crush proc slightly. Though since I'm running on a tank, I just throw Boggle every so often which does have the Contagious Confusion in it. Boggle works alright as a filler every so often. And with Greater Psi Blade able to hold, it holds a decent amount of times as well. Aura's debuffs lends itself as well without bringing extra procs into the formulas. It's a complicated power.
Story Archer Posted Friday at 02:48 PM Author Posted Friday at 02:48 PM 24 minutes ago, Maelwys said: So as an 8ft Toggle, Aura of Insanity would have a 39.47% chance (per target) of a 4.5PPM Proc like Contagious Confusion Proc kicking in every 10 seconds. However Cupid's Crush is only 2.5PPM; which is a 21.93% chance of kicking in once every 10 seconds. (i) When Contagious Confusion kicks in, it applies a 20ft Radius AoE (hitting up to 5 targets; excluding the original) which has a 33% chance to inflict a 10s Mag3 Confusion. The upshot is that there's about a 34.142% likelihood for at least one target to be hit by that Mag3 confusion effect (which will affect up to LTs). (ii) When Cupid's Crush kicks in, it applies an 8s Mag2 Confusion (which will only affect minions) So if you have enough spare enhancement slots then they'd both technically be able to stack with each other; sure. But in terms of comparative power a ~21.9% chance to affect a minion is much worse than a ~34.1% chance to affect at least one minion or LT; so IMO slotting Cupids is probably going to be a waste of a precious enhancement slot. That's really good information, thanks! I'm going to have to put you on speed dial for when I have questions about the numbers. Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
Story Archer Posted Friday at 02:52 PM Author Posted Friday at 02:52 PM (edited) 17 hours ago, Maelwys said: If you want to mez higher-level bosses; you'll need 3x Acc/Mez HOs. If not, then 1 Acc/Mez HO is enough to mez even-level Bosses and +3 LTs. Offensive Procs aren't wonderful in it; but buff procs (Like Entomb) work just fine. I personally like putting a Coercive Persuasion "Contagious Confusion" Proc in it too - I've got the Stalker version slotted like this: Note that you'll need a fair chunk of accuracy to reach 95% Hit Rate in it vs +3 foes. Mids still falsely claims it's got a 1.00 Accuracy Modifier whenever it's really only 0.80 The first four you have slotted is the direction I'm probably planning to go with. Either that or two HO's instead of the non-proc Entomb, depending on how other set bonuses shake out. Edited Friday at 06:22 PM by Story Archer 1 Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
Story Archer Posted Saturday at 05:25 PM Author Posted Saturday at 05:25 PM (edited) On 7/25/2025 at 9:24 AM, Maelwys said: (stats) Here's one for you - does +Recharge (via global or local enhancements) work on Consume Psyche, and if so, how? Damn, I JUST noticed that it's a 90 degree cone, I've been playing like a noob, thinking that it was PBAoE. Edited Saturday at 05:33 PM by Story Archer Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
Maelwys Posted Saturday at 06:49 PM Posted Saturday at 06:49 PM 1 hour ago, Story Archer said: Here's one for you - does +Recharge (via global or local enhancements) work on Consume Psyche, and if so, how? Damn, I JUST noticed that it's a 90 degree cone, I've been playing like a noob, thinking that it was PBAoE. It has "adaptive recharge", meaning (i) the more foes you hit with it the longer it takes to recharge, up to a maximum of 60s (ii) Proc activation rate in it is complete rubbish since the "base" recharge for PPM calculations is treated as being only 5 seconds. But recharge reduction enhancement and global recharge will still reduce the recharge time. So that 60s maximum can become 30s or less pretty easily. And the Tanker/Brute Consume Psyche is indeed a 20ft radius AoE. The 90ft Cone is Devour Psyche which is the Scrapper/Stalker/Sentinel version.
Erratic1 Posted Saturday at 06:49 PM Posted Saturday at 06:49 PM 1 hour ago, Story Archer said: Damn, I JUST noticed that it's a 90 degree cone, I've been playing like a noob, thinking that it was PBAoE. Consume Psyche, which Brutes and Tankers get is PBAoE. Scrapper and Stalkers get Devour Psyche, which is 90 degrees.
Story Archer Posted Saturday at 08:47 PM Author Posted Saturday at 08:47 PM 1 hour ago, Erratic1 said: Consume Psyche, which Brutes and Tankers get is PBAoE. Scrapper and Stalkers get Devour Psyche, which is 90 degrees. That's odd. On Mids I've built a Brute and it's showing as a cone. I'll have to play closer attention when I use it. Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
Erratic1 Posted Saturday at 09:06 PM Posted Saturday at 09:06 PM 16 minutes ago, Story Archer said: That's odd. On Mids I've built a Brute and it's showing as a cone. I'll have to play closer attention when I use it. Mid's is wrong. City of Data 2.0: Power 'Consume Psyche' (Brute_Defense.Psionic_Armor.Consume_Psyche) I also made a short video, if need be, showing one of my Brute's standing in the middle of six foes, using Consume Psyche, and the recharge counter leaping to 38 seonds, which is 5+6*5.5, meaning the power hit all of them. 1
Story Archer Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM Author Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM 1 hour ago, Maelwys said: And the Tanker/Brute Consume Psyche is indeed a 20ft radius AoE. The 90ft Cone is Devour Psyche which is the Scrapper/Stalker/Sentinel version. 13 minutes ago, Erratic1 said: Mid's is wrong. City of Data 2.0: Power 'Consume Psyche' (Brute_Defense.Psionic_Armor.Consume_Psyche) I also made a short video, if need be, showing one of my Brute's standing in the middle of six foes, using Consume Psyche, and the recharge counter leaping to 38 seonds, which is 5+6*5.5, meaning the power hit all of them. Oh, I tend to default to 'Mids is wrong' as the answer to most conflicts. Just seems like a weird thing to miss, but it explains why I haven't noticed it operating as a cone in the first place... 2 Top 10 11 Favorite Characters (Excelsior): Ladyshrike - Claws/Bio-Armor Scrapper Veil of Blades - Dual Blades/Ninjitsu Scrapper Silver Majestrix - Radiation/Super Strength Tanker Starsprite - Fire/Atomic Blaster Mistress of Chains - Dark/Dark Controller Six-Gun Angel - Dual Pistols/Kinetics Corruptor Killer Hurtz - Electric/Super Reflexes Sentinel Lady Wormwood - Fire/Plant Dominator K-D1VA - Kinetic/Sonic Defender Smudge - Martial Arts/Dark Armor Tanker Daisy Chained - Demon/Dark Mastermind
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