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On 1/24/2020 at 10:21 AM, Lydimaster said:
Well, having done it twice yesterday, I can confirm that Island Rum is indeed downloading Wineskin instead of Wine. Have you found any work-arounds?
Number 6 has a work around to run 32-Bit by tricking Island Rum into thinking it's running Safe Mode. But I think that means Cider is running 24-Bit, and Cider is what they're trying to get away from.
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It's been noted that Epic ATs are the least made toons. But that statistic is misleading because the lack of alternative Primaries and Secondaries leaves little incentive to roll more than one of each AT. With alternate builds and plentiful respecs you don't even need to make more than one to try out different builds.
But what if Peacebringers and Warshades could access each other's sets?
Would Luminous Blast / Umbral Aura or Umbral Blast / Luminous Aura work?
What about Warshade powers with Cosmic Balance or a Peacebringer's with Dark Sustenance?
Hypothetically, if the goal were to create more options for Kehldians you could also recreate the existing sets with other damage types/secondary effects.
How about a Fire Peacebringer, or an Ice Warshade?
Would this be completely unworkable?
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5 minutes ago, DR_Mechano said:
Actually, sadly there IS a reason for it. Hide for Stalkers, for example is required for the AT to even function, if you get the option to skip it, it kind of gimps the AT. I do believe this was tried before but, rather unfortunately, led to major problems and apparently made the game go kind of wonky because it's kind of hard coded into the game (kind of in that the game starts to go funny if you change it, not in the sense that it is unchangeable).
I thought about Stalkers, but then I also thought about how Masterminds aren't forced to take pets which also gimps them. Plus this requirement existed before CoV and Stalkers.
If it's a coding/stability issue then that at least is a strong reason.
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Maybe there's reasons for it, but it always sat weird with me that it's one of the few places in the game where you MUST take a specific power. Primaries, Pools and Ancillaries all start with two options to choose. Now, I guess you could argue that when you choose a Secondary set you are also choosing the first power of that set. But it still means that for a lot of sets, you have to take a less than ideal power to get access to the rest of the set.
Defenders are probably the biggest losers here because if you're mixing attacks and support, you don't always need a fast recharging blast that does minor damage as part of your chain.
Invulnerability, Regeneration and Will Power all have Auto powers to start with, and I know some people feel auto powers are skippable in defense sets.
Then there are a few Support sets where the first power is a niche ability that isn't nearly as useful as the shields and heals that are the actual reason you wanted the set.
Is there some strong reason why Secondaries must start with a choice of one out of one?
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Lydimaster, I am having the same issues with OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 as well.
I suspect Island Rum uses a different process for us, and that's why Choake's fix doesn't apply to El Capitan or earlier.
In an older thread Manga says:
"If you leave both of those (CoH.app and City of Heroes app) out of Applications, Island Rum will ask you to install a Game Client. It will install Wine if you're using macOS > 10.11, or Wineskin if you're using other macOS. The Wine install will be in a "wine" folder inside /Applications/coh, and Wineskin will be an app called "CoH.app" in Applications."
When I clear everything and re-run Island Rum, it creates both CoH.app and an empty folder named "coh" in /Applications. The CoH.app has contents in it's package but the coh folder has nothing. This makes me think it's using Wineskin instead of Wine. So updating Wine doesn't solve our issues.
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And it case it helps here's the error log from my Wine.
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That's basically the same error I get. (I'm OS X El Captian 10.11.6)
I notice that it says Wine build: wine-1.6.2 even though I specifically erased all versions of wine from my computer and installed Wine 1.8.6.
Similar thing happens when I try to run HC Beta Safe Mode from Island Rum, except it gets as far as the loading screen before crashing.
I've also noticed that if I remove the CoH.app and the coh folder, Island Rum will create a coh folder in Applications, and then also create a CoH.app in Applications, but not put anything in the coh folder.
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@Number Six I just tried your idea and it seemed to work. In fact when I logged in the movement of the graphics was much smoother than usual.
Do you have any idea where in the coh folder islandrum.sh would be?
It's definitely not in Applications/CoH.app/drive_c/Program Files/coh/ and I've checked the folders inside that.
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On 1/10/2020 at 10:42 AM, choake said:
Hello All... I've put together a fairly comprehensive step by step, how to remove our Original Island Rum and CoH installs, how to remove and clean up the homebrew and wine left overs, and provide all the software and steps and terminal commands to have a fully functional and stable 32/64bit running game... AND a side benefit, the BRAND new Mac based HeroDesigner can Truly be opened with a right click open with wine stable... It's very clear plan and step by step.. Hopefully this eases some minds as I DID not want to miss this game again..
I ran this series on 3 seperate High Sierra computers.. 2 Mid 2011's And Airbook and iMac, both work amazingly.. And a Macbook Pro 2015....
I'll attack a short 50sec youtube video of me opening up the new mids, with just that a right click... Enjoy, rock out, and Good hunting
Cleaning up for 32 64bit AND mac Hero Builder.pdf 590.98 kB · 12 downloads
Thank you for all this.
Unfortunately I followed all this but 64-Bit is still greyed out and when I try to run 32-Bit I get an error message with the attached details.
On the plus side, Mids Herobuilder works which it never has before!
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On 1/8/2020 at 8:41 AM, Number Six said:
Same issue a lot of people are seeing of the launcher (Island Rum?) apparently passing in a -patchdir parameter to a directory that doesn't exist.
After trying and failing to launch it, do you have an islandrum.sh file somewhere in your COH directory that you can paste the contents of?
Not that I can find. It isn't anywhere in apps/coh/drive_c/Program Files/coh/
The report I posted was found in there in a folder "hc-bin32/backtrace.txt"
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I've got a 2007 mac and a 2009 mac (that I bought right before the game came back). I was able to play on both of them until yesterday when I relaunched Island Rum on the 2009 machine and Safe Mode went away. Oddly enough the 2007 still works as I didn't restart Island Rum. So "Safe Mode" still seems to be working, it just isn't accessible.
And i've never been able to make the 32 or 64 versions run. 64 is greyed out and 32 currently has this error:Oh, and for some reason Island Rum will not let me change the manifest. Click the palm tree, first item on dropdown "Manifest" does nothing. Click it and the drop menu closes. All other items on the menu work fine. I've re-downloaded and reinstalled several times and it still won't work. Island Rum is Build 112420192
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I was able to play some yesterday because i had left my computer on and still had Island Rum running. Then I restarted it and now cant access it.
Specifically this error:
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x002004c0 in 32-bit code (0x0087b288).
Register dump:
CS:001b SS:0023 DS:0023 ES:0023 FS:1007 GS:000f
EIP:0087b288 ESP:0032d640 EBP:0032d658 EFLAGS:00010206( R- -- I - -P- )
EAX:00000121 EBX:0032d7e8 ECX:0200c008 EDX:00000001
ESI:0200c008 EDI:00200000
Stack dump:
0x0032d640: 0200c000 00000003 0200c008 7b864aab
0x0032d650: 00a0a680 0200c008 0032d680 0087ce45
0x0032d660: 0200d000 0032d700 0032d7e8 00000000
0x0032d670: 00000000 0056a290 0032d7e8 0032d700
0x0032d680: 0032de80 0056a2a2 00a0a680 0203b2f0
0x0032d690: 00000007 0032d7e8 00000000 00000014
0200: sel=1007 base=7ffc0000 limit=00000fff 32-bit rw-
Backtrace:
=>0 0x0087b288 in cityofheroes (+0x47b288) (0x0032d658)
1 0x0087ce45 in cityofheroes (+0x47ce44) (0x0032d680)
2 0x0056a2a2 in cityofheroes (+0x16a2a1) (0x0032de80)
3 0x005d218c in cityofheroes (+0x1d218b) (0x0032e6d8)
4 0x008767ab in cityofheroes (+0x4767aa) (0x0032fe64)
5 0x009c7caa in cityofheroes (+0x5c7ca9) (0x0032feb0)
6 0x7b85067c in kernel32 (+0x4067b) (0x0032fec8)
7 0x7b853837 in kernel32 (+0x43836) (0x0032ff08)
8 0x7bc66d9c (0x0032ff28)
9 0x7bc67e4a (0x0032ffa8)
10 0x7bc66d62 (0x0032ffc8)
11 0x7bc3ec0e (0x0032ffe8)
0x0087b288: movl 0x3c(%edi,%eax,4),%edi
Modules:
Module Address Debug info Name (34 modules)
PE 330000- 343000 Deferred physxloader
PE 350000- 3a7000 Deferred cggl
PE 400000- 16f0000 Export cityofheroes
PE 1d80000- 1dca000 Deferred cudart32_30_9
PE 2200000- 2573000 Deferred physxcore
PE 10000000-10064000 Deferred physxcooking
PE 41910000-41914000 Deferred advapi32
PE 41980000-41984000 Deferred version
PE 41990000-419a2000 Deferred comdlg32
PE 43320000-4334e000 Deferred user32
PE 43470000-43474000 Deferred gdi32
PE 43580000-4368e000 Deferred shell32
PE 43780000-43784000 Deferred shlwapi
PE 43800000-43820000 Deferred comctl32
PE 43900000-43904000 Deferred winspool
PE 43940000-43944000 Deferred ws2_32
PE 43980000-43984000 Deferred wsock32
PE 43990000-43994000 Deferred iphlpapi
PE 439c0000-439c4000 Deferred imm32
PE 439e0000-439e3000 Deferred glu32
PE 43c70000-43c74000 Deferred hid
PE 43c90000-43c94000 Deferred dsound
PE 43ce0000-43ceb000 Deferred winmm
PE 43d30000-43d38000 Deferred ole32
PE 43e80000-43e84000 Deferred rpcrt4
PE 43f10000-43f14000 Deferred msacm32
PE 43f30000-43f34000 Deferred ddraw
PE 43fc0000-43fc4000 Deferred wined3d
PE 44100000-44104000 Deferred opengl32
PE 442b0000-442b3000 Deferred winemac
PE 45ed0000-45ed4000 Deferred uxtheme
PE 6a000000-6a56d000 Deferred cg
PE 7b810000-7b866000 Export kernel32
PE 7bc10000-7bc14000 Deferred ntdll
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) C:\Program Files\coh\hc-bin32\cityofheroes.exe
00000025 0
00000009 0 <==
0000000e services.exe
0000001f 0
0000001e 0
00000014 0
00000010 0
0000000f 0
00000012 winedevice.exe
0000001d 0
0000001a 0
00000017 0
00000013 0
0000001b plugplay.exe
00000021 0
00000020 0
0000001c 0
00000022 explorer.exe
00000024 0
00000023 0
System information:
Wine build: wine-1.6.2
Platform: i386
Host system: Darwin
Host version: 15.6.0I've checked but cannot upgrade my OS beyond El Capitan.
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Thanks, all.
For context, earlier this year I replaced my 10 year old iMac with a refurbished 7 year old iMac. This was one month before the leak came out.
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I've heard people say that because the game is +6 years old and was already using older graphics then, that it should be easy to get a computer that can run this game.
But not knowing much about gaming in general, I wonder what specific requirements I need and what kind of models available have everything needed and how much that should cost.
Can anyone recommend a relatively inexpensive gaming computer/laptop that can run CoH smoothly?
Thank you.
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OS X El Captian
Version 10.11.6
Island Rum 112420192
Tried to run Beta and it said it was the wrong one. So I rescan Island Rum and Beta disappeared from the list. When I click on the palm tree and then Manifest, nothing happens.
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I'm hoping to get the set bonuses for 6 slotting each set in a different power.
But I'm wondering if having the Sudden Acceleration KB-KD will make the one in Overwhelming Force not work.
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The Knocback to Knockdown proc in Overwhelming Force is unique to itself, while the Sudden Acceleration is not. But is OF unique to SA?
Does the game consider them the same type of effect?
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I'm able to run safe mode on this:
iMac (20-inch, Early 2009)
Processor: 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 256 MB
Now, grated... the "Spectrum" costumes just look flat to me and I'm almost always the last to zone when running a TF. But it does work.
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It seems like every guide about Kheldians includes 'essential' keybinds that will change forms and adjust the power tray to match the form.
But... why?
The game already has a mechanic that will pop-up a temporary tray containing the powers appropriate for the forms. Do people really hate that so much that they need an alternative?
I can understand if it's just a preference thing, but it seems so pervasive that I'm wondering if there's some downside to the pop-up power tray that I'm just not seeing.
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Cool. Though I asked because they weren't showing up on my vidiot map.
Edit: It looks like I didn't have the latest updates. Thanks!
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On 5/29/2019 at 2:08 PM, Robotech_Master said:
Echo: Atlas Park, another recreation of a starting zone as it once was, and grab all the badges there for another 5 merits.
Does Echo: Atlas Park even have badges? And if it did wouldn't they be the same as Atlas Park proper?
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As a Mac user that can barely get the game to work, I watch this thread with great interest.
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Safe Mode Discontinuation Support - Mac OS X
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Here is the latest error details from trying to run 32-Bit on El Capitan. (Backrace found in the hc-bin32 folder.)
And also the crash report from the Crash folder.
I'm still not able to find "islandrum.sh" anywhere in the coh folder.
backtrace_1-28-2020.txt cityofheroes-7z05qyrm6qy8ch8bfd2zjmeaeb.report