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what about nightcrawler? scrapper or stalker?

Both maybe? As of now, I use Red's old build but noticed this was gaining some traction and would like to try it out, even tho the old build still does wonders! Instead of Hover, I went with teleport for rp purposes, but id be interested to see how it all is layed out. You mentioned not using DW and made me curious for a lvl 50 set up (I personally rarely exemplar under 24ish, nor hard sold on Soul)

Made a forum handle just to ask, but what does your build look like?