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I suspect that the confusion about "only on cast" might have come about from powers that end up targeting immediately (such as Caltrops) and also have a 'tick' (which has poor %proc chances because of the extremely short recharge times of the "ticks".) In other words: It can be really obvious for those sorts of powers on cast to see a %proc but it would be relatively unlikely to find the %proc for any of the subsequent tics.
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I could try to do some testing. I had slotted it because of the Recharge component even if the proc didn't fire.
EDIT: After testing, it fires with the Volcanic Geyser component (as did the other Hold %pieces)
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A friendly reminder: Villains can face the Freedom Phalanx at the end of "Who Will Die?" SSA mission #1, provided that you stick around for them to come and check on Synapse.
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Disclaimer: I was not present for the Torchbearer SNS in question.
38 minutes ago, Excraft said:The only people complaining about the Kronos were the people who seem to believe it's the root cause of all of the problems like lag and scattering. It's clear that it isn't. And anyone who dared suggest otherwise in broadcast or league/team chat were belittled for their opinion. I know this for a certainty because my daughter received some very rude and nasty tells simply because she said in broadcast the Kronos doesn't cause the problems. I saw league chat where global names were being shared and people directed to put those people on global ignore because they said the Kronos is not an issue.
Perhaps some (uninformed?) players may have been under the impression that something about the Kronos Titan was causing an issue, maybe because of the specific attacks?
There are (precious few) enemy mobiles that can attack and damage each other. AFAIK Babbages/Clockwork and Kronos/Malta are not among them. Other players may be working from a different premise, thinking the Kronos was kill-stealing/scaring the Babbages?
There could have been an undercurrent of "Stop (whatever) and listen to Kali!" that got translated (internally, to some players) that "Anybody being public with [Broadcast] advice that runs counter to what the league wants is wrong, and deserves shunning"... there are some folks that aren't real good about filtering, and it is possible that some folks turned their own (inward-directed?) annoyance and waiting around for the "Go Go Go" signal that they turned those bad feelings outward. If I hang out in Skyway before 8pm Eastern, it isn't uncommon to see folks being a little snippy before the leagues are even forming. I want to believe this is all in fun, but it is IMO silly to ask "Has SNS started?" when it is (a) 7:30pm Eastern and (b) it is trivial to see that the Hive is still full because of an ongoing Hamidon raid.
It doesn't take much to get some folks to brigade. Hopefully the folks who took the sour approach will self-select themselves away from fun times.
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59 minutes ago, Death2Tyrants said:
How is this working for you?
I am expecting it to only work on initial cast.
I want to say that each of the %damage powers, when they trigger, trigger on one of the "hold" cycles. As near as I can tell, they work similarly to Poison Trap: The %+Absorb may fire upon cast, but the %damage require a target. Since there are no targets upon immediate cast of these powers, the ToHit check (and %proc check) happen upon trigger, and AFAIK it also requires the pseudopet to not vanish to work; Seeker Drones are one of those pseudo pets that appear to never do %damage.
I can't swear that I saw the %Psi, but I know I saw the other %damage when the Hold power activated, per the logs.
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16 hours ago, Display Name said:
In Peregrine Island, I have a map marker for [-1639.0 96.2 -4198.5]
But I've *never* seen a GM spawn there. Is this an error?As far as I have observed, with regards to both event spawns and standard zone spawns, that there are some identified spawn points that are more likely to have a spawn than others, but there are no spawns points for which I have never seen a Giant Monster spawn. There are some spawn points where I can a couple of months pass between observations of a giant monster thereat.
I can't attest that I've been to every identified spawn spot in every zone, but I have covered almost all of the zones hero side, most of the zones villain side, and multiple runs in gold zones. I've done this for regular zone giant monsters (so mostly blue) and holiday events in the red and gold zones.
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5 minutes ago, ZacKing said:
That I can understand and empathize with, however we can't control what others do. I'd also add that people bringing a Kronos Titan from time to time aren't breaking any game rules. They're not doing anything different than the people participating in the SNS are.
The complete absurdity of being upset that "someone brought a Kronos Titan", as far as I am concerned, is that had that player/team brought another Babbage the complainers likely would have squealed with delight.
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I did some set-swapping to boost the hold values, at the cost of some recharge. I am missing the +Absorb (may add it back, may not) but I more appreciate seeing the critters be held for the duration than the 70 - 100 points of random %proc damage.
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Don't forget the certain pets which inherent any boosts the player has while summoning them! So much variety!
20 minutes ago, biostem said:In cases where other ATs can get access to multiple pets, they tend to overshadow MMs, IMHO - such as a "Crabbermind" deploying all their pets + incarnate ones, whilst still benefitting from their own armor toggles, direct attacks, and possibly even stacking leadership powers...
I have both Masterminds and a Crabbermind. I prefer Masterminds. This is not to say that Crabberminds perform poorly, its more that I don't think the pets (and I went for the Patron Spider pet) are as reliable for the Crabbermind... obviously the lack of direct controls plays into this, but for the most part I never feel like I'm getting that much performance from the Spiders. It is a nice variation to have a Crabbermind be the big bad, whereas my MMs the henchmen end up being the big bad.
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I think it is demonstrated (by the later dive into Scrappers, immediately above) that there is a bit of cursory post hoc rationalization possible, for whatever point a person chooses to make on this relative comparison... and I write this not to make specific accusation about rationalizations, but to point out that the Brute/Scrapper/Tanker times are so close and so short which leads to both peculiar variations AND a situation where "small denominators" won't yield particularly informative results.
42 minutes ago, Maelwys said:...and as a complete aside: did you notice the listed ST chain used for Firey Melee Brutes and Tankers in the Pylon times?
Greater Fire Sword > Gloom > Fire Sword > Cross Punch.
Half of those attacks are not Fiery Melee abilities; and IIRC Gloom's recharge time has since been lengthened so I'm not sure it's even a viable chain any more...? 😆Ston deserves a lot of credit for the efforts to transparently benchmark something(s). I don't think there is (or was) much value in nit-picking it. I feel that way because those times all look to be so short that the differences are (to my POV) essentially trivial. Also: I don't think this guy (points to self) would reliably be able to maintain the sort of attention necessary to keyboard-punch to sustain that sort of effort, even for a single Trapdoor type mission, or back-to-back Pylons... with-or-without travel times, chatter with friends, whatever. This need for a more-constant sort of engagement with the game via Fury is what I was referring to in my first post in this thread, before I was told using slightly different words to STFU and get out of the forum.
IIRC, Ston was trying to come up with a new benchmark to replace Trapdoor, primarily because of the 2024 changes to the Council. (This came up in my search-fu trying to find the source of the histograms shown earlier in the thread). I vaguely recall that the original effort was for Ston to achieve the fastest times while trying to balance the different ATs. I'm not going to deep dive into the results or methodology, but I will look at the data when folks point to it as "proof" of something. Ultimately I think it proves that for certain 2023 content, Scrappers, Brutes and Tankers can yield nearly identical completion times.
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I smell what your cooking, but that's more a prima facie argument about a the relative performance of specific set, and less about comparing the different ATs.
The reported Pylon times for Fiery Melee for a Brute is 1m 40sec, for a Tanker 2m 8 sec. That is a difference of 28 seconds or 28% longer for a Tanker. (Done without a calculator!)
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I'm not a hater, but I love fighting the Freedom Phalanx. The parts of the Freedom Phalanx lore that sat wrong with me:
Statesman: As originally described, at launch, this was an Invulnerability Tanker. One that could move (without being rooted) and had ranged attacks! Unfair dude!
Positron: I think he's had at least two costume changes since launch. The original over-pattern looked a little goofy, but it looked goof on players too! I was more peeved by the lore change that allowed him to remove his helmet... ultimately no big deal, but helmed players can't do that, and it felt more ego-stroking. In canon, Positron's role (or not) with the Well of the Furies seems weird at least to me.
Manticore: The guy's role in the Shining Stars arc always seems off. It feels something like a mix of an absentee father as well as not really being present when things go pear-shaped, especially considering the alignment missions. I'm not a great fan of Longbow (in lore), so whatever he's doing with Longbow/Wyvern gets him tainted by association. I kinda feel like the whole Sister Psyche drama was role-playing something I didn't really want to watch.
Who Will Die (minor spoilers): It's not like these guys show up to help.
The Task Forces that many of them issue can also make me feel like I'm being their lackey.
On Red Side, some of them seem much more human (Synapse, anyway).
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1 hour ago, Erratic1 said:
I am not sure how one can claim the suckiness of the Brute procs is made up for by getting 9 more hp at level 50 than a Stalker, or at least do so seriously.
I am not sure how one can claim the suckiness of Brutes is demonstrated by taking on average 7 seconds longer than Scrappers' or Tankers' (average 5 min 10 sec, for similar attack sets) time to complete (a 2023 version of) Trapdoor, pre nuCouncil.
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I have an Earth/Cold build I'm pretty happy with: It's a great teammate, not too flimsy (without trying to be non-flimsy), and while DPS is so-so, it isn't my worst character to solo. I'm completely fine with the placed-AoE powers, although some maps mess with my macros.
The one power I have, that seems like a bit of a head-scratcher is Volcanic Gasses. On most characters, I really like the AoE Holds, and I expected this to be somewhat similar. After making decisions on power choices and enhancement sets elsewhere, I landed on this slotting:
- Gladiator's Net Accuracy/Hold (50+5)
- Gladiator's Net Accuracy/Recharge (50+5)
- Gladiator's Net %Damage (Lethal)
- Superior Will of the Controller Recharge/%Damage (Psi)
- Superior Entomb Recharge/%+Absorb
- Unbreakable Constraint %Damage (Smashing)
Which is a sort of typical long-Recharge AoE %proc-bomb, albeit with Recharge values deeper in the ED territory than is typical for me. On other AoE Holds, slotting like this adds reliable AoE damage and a good bit of control.
It procs just fine, even with a pseudo-pet. The +Absorb is only on cast (this is my expectation, but it's hard to witness this if it also happens later), and the combat log shows the %damage hitting, but somewhat less than if there were no pseudo-pet effects (as expected), but not as poorly as what I've seen from other pseudo-pets.
Where the head-scratching comes in: The chaining of consecutive, short-duration holds seems to make this a pretty bad Hold, even with the inherent (1.4) Accuracy of the pseudo-pet. Ultimately the AoE for the potential %damage is not great, and IIRC the target cap is also small (I think 5?)...
So.... was my initial thinking to try to leverage %damage wrong on this power? I'm starting to wonder if I should be thinking of this more as a single-target hold that sometimes can catch more than one critter, provided I lean harder into the hold than just the 33% I currently have slotted.
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It's ok to not reply to every one of my posts, within minutes, especially if you are going to keep moving goalposts.
5 minutes ago, tidge said:Brutes have a higher base and max Health than Scrappers, something like 12% at base and 33% more at cap.
1 minute ago, Erratic1 said:You're saying Brutes are fine because they don't suck in 100% of the game, just 85% of it and being pedantic as goes what Maelwys wrote?
So long as Brutes do better than a Tanker or a Scrapper on even one powerset, apparently they are fine as you judge things.
I thought you were the one asking for Brutes to be "better at surviving"?
On 10/15/2024 at 7:38 AM, Erratic1 said:If the average player is not using IOs then Brutes are even worse off because they do not have anywhere near the survivability of Tankers, so the Tankers not only deal more area damage, but they are also staying in combat longer and generating xp faster.
20 hours ago, Erratic1 said:Have Fury buff Brute defense/resistance variably as it does damage with a max target matching...say 40% of the difference between the current gulf between Brute and Tanker base values. Brutes would deal no more damage but would be a bit better at surviving and hence able to actually engage in, "Go, go, go!" play.
The Brute ATO set enhancement bonuses for 2-or-3 slotting are directly tied to improving Brute's having more HP, keeping them, recovering them, and damage. Accuracy from set bonuses is nice, but half of all enhancements in the ATO sets already boost Accuracy (one by 33%, two by 26%). The same of course can be written about Damage, but getting close to the damage caps and staying there is kinda the whole point of a Brute's offense.
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1 minute ago, Erratic1 said:
Brute's Fury gives the exact same bonus at 2 and 3 pieces slotted as Scrapper's Strike. Stalker's Guile differs on 2pc by giving Accuracy instead of health. Not seeing how Brutes are ahead.
Brutes have a higher base and max Health than Scrappers, something like 12% at base and 33% more at cap.
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18 minutes ago, GM_GooglyMoogly said:
Compared to the ATOs procs for Scrappers (+criticals), Stalkers (hide for more crits and BU recharge), and Tanks (stacking +res and +absorb), the Brute ones just don't stack up.*
https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Archetype_Enhancements
* In my opinion, not an official HC statement.
I don't disagree about how the %proc effects fall into tiers, but don't undersell the set bonuses that come from 2-slotting or 3-slotting ATOs. Brutes can get multiple Damage/Health Boosts for 2-slotting, and (some) Defenses or Regeneration from 3-slotting. Those line up pretty directly with what many players want Brutes to do. The Scrapper/Stalker/Tanker ATO bonuses for 2-or-3 slotting are much more indirectly tied to improving performance IMO, YMMV.
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2 hours ago, PoptartsNinja said:
If we ignore the Brute Fury proc, which is still bugged, the Defender heal proc is probably the worst ATO proc in the game. So that honestly seems reasonable. Getting to proc an end refund on a big power is nice.
I definitely think that there are "worse" ATO %procs. The Brute's Fury-bonus proc is probably one of the worst performing game effects that should perform better than it does... see also the VEAT inherents.
As an aside, the ATO %procs are all tied to a "pure Recharge" component, so for certain ATs I feel that looking at the 2-piece set bonuses and seeing how those can help an AT, because a Recharge piece on a long-baseline-recharge tied with a single other ATO piece from the same set often looks (to me) like a reasonable choice, if that power was going to be franken-slotted anyway. Mileage varies of course!
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There are so many ways to quickly get to most contacts in these sort of FedEx talky missions, I simply don't see the need for this.
Writing for myself, I will use LRT, SG base portal, Ouroboros, Tunnel, Submarines/Choppers/Ferries/Trains... In addition to using the Crystals, LFG queue when possible. It also helps to know the zone geometries.
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It is not lost on me that the following is exactly the sort of argument that is used to explain why men should always be paid more than women for the same job, because historically men have been paid more than women.
4 hours ago, Erratic1 said:This is a lot like saying, "Everyone else is getting paid more but your salary stayed the same, so you're okay." You and Tidge both ignore the reality and objectivity of actual, documented performance. Again, there it this (and more but not in the mood to link every indicator):
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Meanwhile Kheldians are in a far worse position than Brutes. It is silly IMO to keep pointing to "evidence" that some other AT now performs better than Brutes that there is some great injustice that needs to be corrected. Try comparing Kheldian solo performance against a Brutes solo performance in something like a Penny Yin TF if you want to witness a real discrepancy in times. I guarantee the difference in times won't be measured on the order of 20 seconds.
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38 minutes ago, Owl Girl said:
the initial powers are of course terrible outside of theme, but so is Flurry. if the prevailing wisdom is that Flurry is a tax for Hasten, then the same holds for Unrelenting imo. it's so good that I would burn two powers to get it, like Hasten.
AFAIK Hasten does not require any other picks from the Speed pool.
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Question for the HC folk - Do Giant Monsters cause lag?
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There are no hard-and-fast rules about multi-boxing in the open world, except for the usual rules based on server load.
I do think that if any of the powers-that-be were to look at the rationale(s) for restricting multiboxing for reasons other than server load, they'd realize that multi-boxing Giant Monster murder is not very far down a slippery slope. Personally I fear that TPTB are going to end up restricting Giant Monster rewards on a timer, which would probably drive more players to multi-box giant monsters, because of the 2x or 3x the (hypothetically) time-limited rewards.