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This is my first time ever making a fire/dark/fire troller and my first time to use the dark power on the troller side. I have the character at lvl 50 now and working on her incarnate powers. What I would like to do use her on a fire farms, s/l farms, standard game play and ITF's. This toon will be played mostly on teams and very little solo.  She has no io's at this time and I have about 800 million saved up for her. Will 800 million be enough for her because, I would like help on the 3/8 and 4/8 farms and missions.   Plus winter sets are a ton of money 😞

 

In your opinion what the pros and cons of a fire/dark/fire troller.?

 

I have seen some youtube videos of fire/dark trollers with epics like fire and pys who would just kick butt on a most missions that were 2/8. I did see one video of a guy using soul power from ghost widow who did a nice job on team support from a farm mission. I am guessing a good attack chain would be flash fire, fire cages, tar patch, soul absorption, fireball and repeat if you have  high recharge.  Would this be a good attack chain for my character.

 

Finally i did somewhat of a okay build in mids looking to get a feedback and help with my build. Yes I did take mystic fly because, she is a theme character I want really to keep mystic flight.

 

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg:50(A), TchoftheN-Heal:50(7), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal:50(9), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen:50(11)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(3), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx:50(5), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(5), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc:50(7)
Level 4: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(15)
Level 6: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng:50(A), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx:50(50), BlsoftheZ-ResKB:50(50)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(17)
Level 10: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 12: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx:50(A), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx:50(21), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx:50(23), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg:50(23)
Level 14: Flashfire -- AbsAmz-Stun:50(A), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun:50(17), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(19), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg:50(19), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg:50(21)
Level 16: Kick -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 18: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Krm-ResKB:30(27)
Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(31)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33)
Level 24: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg:50(34), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(36), Krm-ResKB:30(36)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(34), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34)
Level 28: Hot Feet -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(50)
Level 30: Soul Absorption -- Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(39), Prv-Heal:50(39), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc:50(40), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(40)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- BldMnd-Acc/Dmg:50(A), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), BldMnd-Acc:50(42), BldMnd-Dmg:50(42)
Level 35: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Dmg:50(A), Rgn-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- SphIns-ToHitDeb:50(A), SphIns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb:50(45), SphIns-Acc/Rchg:50(45), SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 41: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(46), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(48)
Level 44: Bonfire -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB:50(A), Ann-ResDeb%:50(48)
Level 47: Arcane Bolt -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(11), RgnTss-Regen+:30(15)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(13), EndMod-I:50(13)
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Here is my Fire/Dark/Soul build for comparison. I initially had the Psy epic but wasn't very impressed with World of Confusion or Psychic Tornado. The radius is only 8ft so it doesn't hit that many guys. I switched to Soul and the PBAOE Soul Drain is 15ft, does good damage AND increases my Dmg and Accuracy. Dark Obliteration is like a Fireball (targeted aoe) but debuffs tohit as well. 

 

I solo farm +3/+8 s/l with this guy. I can do +4/+8 solo but it gets pretty hairy. I honestly haven't tried fire farms with him because this build is capped s/l resistance and nearly capped defense with numbers from 37%-44%.

 

Pre Cast Fade, Hot Feet....

 

I usually lead with Flashfire. Then lock them in place with Fire Cages. Cast Bonfire then run into the middle. Cast Howling Twilight, Soul Absorption, Soul Drain, Dark Obliteration.

 

Then basically just keep Fade and Soul Absorption going while cycling all the above. Bring purples...if you lag a few seconds with Fade or Soul Absorption then your world will begin to crumble. Fire isn't the safest primary set and is propped up by Dark Affinity.

 

It works pretty well though. 

 

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char

  • (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
  • (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
  • (9) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold

Level 1: Twilight Grasp

  • (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing
  • (5) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
  • (5) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
  • (7) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration
  • (7) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (9) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 2: Fire Cages

  • (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
  • (15) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
  • (17) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  • (17) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (37) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold

Level 4: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 6: Fly

  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 8: Tar Patch

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (11) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 10: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (11) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 12: Howling Twilight

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Flashfire

  • (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized
  • (19) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance
  • (39) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage

Level 16: Shadow Fall

  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (21) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (21) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (23) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (25) Red Fortune - Endurance

Level 18: Darkest Night

  • (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff
  • (40) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance
  • (40) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
  • (40) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge

Level 20: Fade

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
  • (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (29) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (29) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 22: Hot Feet

  • (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
  • (37) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 24: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 26: Bonfire

  • (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
  • (33) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
  • (34) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (42) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 28: Soul Absorption

  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
  • (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
  • (33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod

Level 30: Tough

  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (31) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (34) Aegis - Resistance
  • (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 32: Fire Imps

  • (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets

Level 35: Hover

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 38: Dark Servant

  • (A) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  • (42) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff
  • (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
  • (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 41: Dark Embrace

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 44: Dark Obliteration

  • (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
  • (45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (46) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range

Level 47: Soul Drain

  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (48) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge

Level 49: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (50) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Containment 


Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

 

 

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I'm leveling a Fire/Dark now and i will use this build just to not fear death and tank smoothly S/L farms and ITFs. (Note: i'm not a proc user)

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(A), Lck-%Hold(17), Apc-Dam%(17)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-Heal(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(13), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(13), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(3), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(3), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(9), PstBls-Dam%(11), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(11)
Level 4: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(5), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(5), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(7)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(7)
Level 8: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(9)
Level 10: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Flashfire -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(19), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(21), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(23)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 18: Hot Feet -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Rchg(43), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Arm-Dam%(46)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(23), UnbGrd-ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-Max HP%(27)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(31)
Level 26: Bonfire -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(48), PstBls-Dam%(50), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(50)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(29), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(29), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(31)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(34)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def(37), RedFrt-EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(39), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(39), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39)
Level 41: Power Blast -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(42), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Dcm-Build%(43)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam(45), Ags-Psi/Status(46)
Level 47: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Prv-Absorb%(34), Mrc-Rcvry+(37)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(45), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(50)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Warworks Core Superior Ally 
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