Ridiculous Girl Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) hello! i was running on my lvl 29 ninja/TA mm, princess dragon, when i noticed that the Mastermind Trick Arrow Oil slick arrow, takes defense debuffs encs. but under the power infomation, it gives no info on the -def. when i put in a lvl 30 SO def debuff, it showed only that the -def power was augmented 38% (or something like that). on City of Data, it list one of the effects for oil slick arrow (MM TA) as base -25% def. so i tested it out on some poor helpless lvl 1 hellions with a power analyzer. they went from 0% def to -100% def, (not ignited) which was odd, but ok. so i went to brickstown and found some freaks more my level, it dropped them to something like -34% def, which i kind of expected. what is going on here? why is the -def %s not listed in the power information? why would it scale like that for lower levels? is this a bug? just curious! 🙂 Edited September 12, 2023 by Ridiculous Girl "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Ridiculous Girl said: why is the -def %s not listed in the power information? Because of the way the power is designed. Using Oil Slick Arrow creates two pseudo-pets, Oil Slick Oil and Oil Slick Target, and defeating Oil Slick Target with any energy or fire damage causes a third pseudo-pet to spawn, Oil Slick Burn. The info panel doesn't respond well to the complexity. 3 hours ago, Ridiculous Girl said: why would it scale like that for lower levels? https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Purple_Patch Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fabulous Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Debuffs scale based upon critter level -- they're more effective on critters below your level and less effective on those above your level. I'm 99% sure -DEF is listed in the power description, -25%. A +1 SO would put that around 34% against critters your level, so that looks right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridiculous Girl Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said: Debuffs scale based upon critter level -- they're more effective on critters below your level and less effective on those above your level. I'm 99% sure -DEF is listed in the power description, -25%. A +1 SO would put that around 34% against critters your level, so that looks right. ok, that makes sense, the first part. and yeah, duh, i should have remembered that it scales... 😅 the description, yes, but the detailed power info does not list it. hence the confusion. is it just missing text? thank you for responding! 🙂 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridiculous Girl Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 oops the detailed info only report -run speed and fire damage, even on the character creation. 🙂 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fabulous Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ridiculous Girl said: oops the detailed info only report -run speed and fire damage, even on the character creation. 🙂 As Luminara said, it's because it's a pseudo pet, and the game info doesn't always report the abilities of pseudo pets. Mids and CoD will give you that info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridiculous Girl Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said: As Luminara said, it's because it's a pseudo pet, and the game info doesn't always report the abilities of pseudo pets. Mids and CoD will give you that info. ha ha! i only saw your response... thank you! "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridiculous Girl Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Luminara said: Because of the way the power is designed. Using Oil Slick Arrow creates two pseudo-pets, Oil Slick Oil and Oil Slick Target, and defeating Oil Slick Target with any energy or fire damage causes a third pseudo-pet to spawn, Oil Slick Burn. The info panel doesn't respond well to the complexity. sorry, i only saw the other response... i was not intentionally ignoring you! ok, i should have known that. ok case closed, just COH weirdness, i am use to that. 🙂 "I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours" the Cheshire Cat "Ce n'est rien de mourir; c'est affreux de ne pas vivre" (It's nothing to die, it's terrible not to live) Jean Valjean "وطن المرء ليس مكان ولادته و لكنه المكان الذي تنتهي فيه كل محاولاته للهروب” (Home is not where you were born, home is where all your attempts to escape cease.) Naguib Mahfouz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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