Sefu Tendaji ally shields should be positional as well as typed defense

[Uun]

There are a number of missions in the RWZ arcs in which you rescue Sefu Tendaji and he fights as your ally. He runs Dispersion Bubble and buffs you with Protective Shield. Both of these powers provide S/L/F/C/E/N typed defense but no M/R/A positional defense. As a result, these buffs don't stack with any positional defense you may have. Pretty much every ally defense buff and pool defense power in the game has been modified to provide both typed and positional defense in order to avoid this issue. Sefu's shields should get the same treatment.

[Saiyajinzoningen]

I think NPC and foe powers are all meant to work slightly differently than ours.

Paragon protectors still get the og MoG

Praetorian Psychics get Mind whip

Penelope Yin gets a super cool mind pet

I think this may be less of a bug and more of a request

[Uun]

1 hour ago, Saiyajinzoningen said:

I think this may be less of a bug and more of a request

This is an NPC ally that follows you and buffs you. Having his powers work the way they do makes the buffs worthless to players with positional defense (SR, Shield, Ninjitsu).  It's only 3 missions so obviously not a big deal, but back on live the same fix was applied to the Force Field and Cold Domination shields as well all pool powers that buff defense.

[Rudra]

Lt. Sefu Tendaji does not use the Force Field power set. He uses the same Dispersion Bubble the Council Ascendants and other game critters use. It doesn't matter that he is an NPC ally. All our NPC allies use the original versions of the available powers or their own unique versions as far as I can tell. (Edit: Such as his Protective Shield. Only Longbow Ballistas [like him], Dr. Zeon, and Professor Echo get that power.) (Besides, I have a really hard time believing that SR, Shield, and Ninjitsu characters need his help to max out their positional defense. I know even on my non-defense focused characters, I don't rescue him until everything on the map is dead. And on my defense focused characters, I never even notice his help other than his Repulsion Field knocking foes.)

Edited November 28, 2023 by Rudra

[Uun]

1 hour ago, Rudra said:

Besides, I have a really hard time believing that SR, Shield, and Ninjitsu characters need his help to max out their positional defense.

You're missing the point. The buff will stack with the typed defense on Bio, Energy, Ice, Invulnerability, Stone and Willpower. I doubt that they need Sefu's help either, but it's a bug if the buff benefits some players but not others.

[Rudra]

56 minutes ago, Uun said:

You're missing the point. The buff will stack with the typed defense on Bio, Energy, Ice, Invulnerability, Stone and Willpower. I doubt that they need Sefu's help either, but it's a bug if the buff benefits some players but not others.

It's not a bug. It's the power's design intent. A design intent that was updated on the Force Field power set, but was retained on mobs. You aren't posting a bug to be corrected. You are posting a suggestion to bring NPC powers in line with player powers, including powers players don't get (Protective Shield).

[Rudra]

Truth hurts, doesn't it, @Uun. It's even in the thread title: Sefu Tendaji ally shields should be positional as well as typed defense

 

If it had been a bug, then the title would have been "Sefu Tendaji's ally shields say they give positional defense, but they don't" or "Sefu Tendaji's ally shields are supposed to be positional but aren't" or something else that states it is not doing something it is supposed to instead of you want something added to it. Now, if you want to pop over to the Suggestions and Feedback forum and re-post this? You would probably not get any pushback. (Edit again: At least not from me. I don't care either way as I avoid saving him until he is the only objective left.)

 

Edit yet again: Or a mod could just move this one there....

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Rudra
Edited to correct "it" to "they".

[Uun]

You've stated your opinion. Now you're just being pedantic.

Edited November 29, 2023 by Uun

[Saiyajinzoningen]

22 hours ago, Uun said:

You're missing the point. The buff will stack with the typed defense on Bio, Energy, Ice, Invulnerability, Stone and Willpower. I doubt that they need Sefu's help either, but it's a bug if the buff benefits some players but not others.

 

I respectfully disagree, look at rage 

The crash is detrimental to Defense based At's

and not resistance based AT's

 

 

 

[TimesSeven]

On 11/26/2023 at 6:42 PM, Uun said:

There are a number of missions in the RWZ arcs in which you rescue Sefu Tendaji and he fights as your ally. He runs Dispersion Bubble and buffs you with Protective Shield. Both of these powers provide S/L/F/C/E/N typed defense but no M/R/A positional defense. As a result, these buffs don't stack with any positional defense you may have. Pretty much every ally defense buff and pool defense power in the game has been modified to provide both typed and positional defense in order to avoid this issue. Sefu's shields should get the same treatment.

I posted the same thing about Foathim the Kind’s shield earlier this month. The response was pretty much that they are using old shield designs and not newer ones. Found that out the hard way as the enemies sliced through his dispersion bubble like tissue paper.