Nintova Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hello. I've read a lot of the build topics ( in most AT's now ... thanks alt-itis syndrome ) and have been getting great advice when I've asked questions. I've finally ventured into my own attempt at a MM build. I even tried to figure out the unfathomable prestige powers ( I have never had a level 50 yet so never had access to that spectrum of abilities ). Please rip this apart. I have thick skin so if I've mucked it up, let me know. I appreciate you regardless 😄 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 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Well.... alt-itis is real. Anyway, a few things that stick out.... Your personal MM attacks now spawn Spectres. In my experience, they help a little with damage, and take some heat off of you and your actual pets. Having said that, it might be beneficial to try and work in Life Drain. Soul Extraction is a must have. You can use it to help mule a few of the MM Unique IOs which increase your pets' Defenses/Resists. Plus, it's a great power to have as it will help your DPS out a lot, and again, keep heat off you and your other pets. On Necro, I wouldn't even think about skipping this. Take it. Thank me later. Tar Patch and Darkest Night, again, are awesome powers. What's not to like about lowering enemies' resistances, their to hit, and their damage output? Unless you're chasing the few extra HP, I would slot Stamina with the Procs in Performance Shifter and Power Transfer (as you have) but then slot the Endurance Mod piece from each of those sets. You'll get a bit more End Recovery that way. Enchant Undead now takes Resistance. You can use it to slot some of the Unique Resist IOs if you want, or slot a little heavy on Reistance to increase your pets' Resistances. The Imp Skin unique will increase your pets Regen rate. Dark Empowerment now takes Healing sets. If you slot,say, the Numina's proc in it, it will proc on your pets the same way it would proc on you if you slotted it in Health. May be helpful for your pets (especially since if you slot the Imp SKin in Enchant to get them more Regen). YMMV. I think I slotted my Dark Servant with 4 Touch of the Nictus (including the proc) and 2 Cloud Senses (proc and To Hit Debuff). I went that route so my Dark Servant helps keep me and my pets topped off on health, to fill in any gaps from my own Twilight Grasp, and those 2 procs are nice. Every power the DS has has a chance to trigger the Cloud Senses proc. While the Deflated Ego proc would have a chance to fire on every thing as well, I am curious if it would actually be worth it? Maybe if you went Preemptive for your Interface power to get it to stack with the -End and -End Recovery? And speaking of Interface, did you go with Spectral for the chance of immobilize? The Diamagnetic would stack oh so nicely with Necro/Dark. All the -To Hit you already have, PLUS even more? Then throw in the chance of -Regen, and that's just icing on the cake. Or maybe Reactive for -Resistance and the chance of Fire damage? I think that Musculature would be a better Alpha power. More Damage, more Defense/To Hit Debuff, plus extra End Mod. Keep in mind that your Alpha will affect your pets. So your pets will have these bonuses as well. Howling Twilight is a great rez power,along with a -Regen effect, -Recharge, and a Disorient. I slotted mine with only 3 of the Absolute Amazement IOs. You could then take the extra slots and add to Shadow Fall to increase the Defense and Resistance (throw a LotG:Global recharge in there). Bottom Line, every person is different and chase different goals. As long as your build works for you and achieves what you want it to, then roll with it. 2 What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintova Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 (edited) @Xandyr Thank you so very much. Back to the drawing board! 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 Edited February 18 by Nintova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpiritFox Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1) Gloom and life drain are enough, cut dark blast entirely 2) Darkest night and tar patch should be taken at the ***EARLIEST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY***. Besides your heal these are what keep your pets alive. 3) Howling twilight needs to have one slot and fearsome stare needs more. Fearsome stare is an excellent aoe crowd control which makes for a great opener. Send in the pets, fearsome stare, darkest night, tar patch, and watch the horde rip everything to shreds. 4) IMO you went way too heavy on procs sacrificing some good set slotting in your pets. You could get 3 10% recharge bonuses out of slotting the two pet sets the right way. Put pet defense uniques in soul extraction, not in the lich or the grave knights. And make sure the grave knights, especially, are at 99% damage and 99% attack. Must have. 5) Shadow fall can shed 2-3 slots for something else 6) So, concept. You built alot for personal defenses. On a character with no mez protection. Bad idea. I totally get it. On almost any other character like tough and weave, sure. On this? If youre playing it right its a waste of slots, power choice, and endurance. Your pets are what tanks for you, your goal is to not get hit because mezzes are what can cause your entire setup to cascade fail. Get held, can't heal, cant CC enemies, pets die, you die. 7) Celerity stealth in sprint is a good idea. Keep it. 8-Tar patch needs 2 slots and both of them 50+5 recharge generic IOs. You want it up as often as possible. Stacked, if possible. Thats how you get more slow. With two tar patches. 9) Replace fly with mystic flight, 3 slot it, put the universal travel set there which comes with a -kb IO to keep you from being knocked down, and replace hover with vengeance for the LOTG slot. Mystic flight is better than fly unless you want to take group flight or you are specifically building a ranged damage hover character, which you are not here. You dont want to be over the mobs. You want to be behind the pets where fearsome stare can hit max targets with its cone, and you move in to fire your heal on the pets and back out after. Just a few feet, but enough to move you out of aoe range and keep you from getting mezzed. Meanwhile, Mystic flight gives you a teleport that lets you speed across zones way faster than fly and hover are ever going to move you. Especially with only one slot in fly. 10) If youre going to go with soul for your epic you really dont need dark embrace, but oppressive gloom is a great survival tool for harder sets. Dark has one of the strongest aoe heals in the game, more than enough to keep you topped off while you use oppressive gloom to make sure things that aren't bosses struggle to hit anyone at all. Its a solid power on like brutes with dark armor, its way, way, way better on masterminds which seriously benefit from mezzing minions and LTs that dark armor wont even notice are there but which your -2 level T1 pets will love you for. Also soul tentacles and a high recharge build would help too. No runners means everyones stuck in darkest knight with their tohit dropped through the floor =D :Edit: STOP TURNING MY NUMBER 8 INTO A SMILEY STUPID FORUMS Edited February 19 by TheSpiritFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysis Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I learned a bunch after reading this thread when the Necro changes had settled. I ended up putting 2 Golgi +5’s into Dark Empowerment as a slot saving mechanic. Now that you have an incentive to slot/use your attacks often you’ll be a bit more slot starved on Necro than in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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