Second Dark/Dark Build: Going for Damage!

[Uncle Shags]

So I absolutely love my Dark/Dark tanker.  He's the bees knees.  He's so friggin' awesome that I've almost maxed out all my incarnates, and haven't had altitis cravings!  For me, this is completely unheard of.  Craziness... 

 

I built him to be max sturdy, and he's turned out great.  I can do things with him I can't on any of my other tankers and haven't found anything yet he can't handle.  I have no complaints.  Oh...except the damage...

 

His damage isn't horrible, but it's not very good.  And there are plenty of times when my durability is overkill and the team could use more damage instead.  If there's another tank, or the fights are quick, etc.

 

So I've decided to make a second build.  100% focused on damage.  Something I can swap into when I want more smash.

 

So here are two builds.  The first one is my current sturdy version, and the second is a rough draft for my damage build.  Although criticism of the first build is welcome (nothing is perfect!), it's mostly included as a way to compare the damage output of the two builds.  The second build I'd like help with.  I've never built a tank for damage like this, so I don't really know what I'm doing.  Advice would be greatly appreciated!

 

So my goals for the damage build were:

 

Permahasten and recharge

Damage bonuses

Global accuracy to allow procs

Procs

 

This rough draft does the trick as the damage in mids is much higher and I think I achieved all the build goals, but I'm sure there's room for improvement.

 

So, what do you folks think?

 

Thanks!

 

Sturdy Build:

Spoiler

Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.6.6 rev. 3
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• Primary powerset: Dark Armor
• Secondary powerset: Dark Melee
• Pool powerset (#1): Leaping
• Pool powerset (#2): Fighting
• Pool powerset (#3): Teleportation
• Pool powerset (#4): Leadership
• Epic powerset: Energy Mastery
  

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Death Shroud

• A: Superior Gauntleted Fist: RechargeTime/+Absorb
• 5: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage
• 5: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 9: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 9: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  

Level 1: Smite

• A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
• 13: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 15: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
• 15: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
• 19: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 19: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 2: Dark Embrace

• A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 3: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
• 3: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
• 11: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
  

Level 4: Combat Jumping

• A: Winter's Gift: Slow Resistance (20%)
  

Level 6: Murky Cloud

• A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
• 7: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
• 7: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
• 37: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  

Level 8: Shadow Maul

• A: Superior Avalanche: Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
• 21: Superior Avalanche: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 21: Superior Avalanche: Accuracy/Damage
• 23: Superior Avalanche: Damage/Endurance
• 23: Superior Avalanche: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 25: Superior Avalanche: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 10: Obsidian Shield

• A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
  

Level 12: Taunt

• (Empty)
  

Level 14: Dark Regeneration

• A: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
• 25: Theft of Essence: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• 27: Theft of Essence: Healing
• 27: Theft of Essence: Healing/Recharge
• 29: Theft of Essence: Accuracy/Healing
• 29: Theft of Essence: Accuracy/Endurance/Healing
  

Level 16: Cloak of Darkness

• A: Shield Wall: Defense
• 17: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance
• 17: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance/Recharge
• 37: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 49: Shield Wall: Endurance/Recharge
• 49: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage
  

Level 18: Siphon Life

• A: Theft of Essence: Healing
• 31: Theft of Essence: Accuracy/Healing
• 31: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
• 31: Hecatomb: Chance of Damage(Negative)
• 33: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge
• 33: Hecatomb: Damage
  

Level 20: Cloak of Fear

• A: Cloud Senses: ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
• 36: Cloud Senses: Accuracy/Recharge
• 46: Cloud Senses: Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
• 48: Cloud Senses: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 22: Touch of Fear

• A: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
• 33: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 34: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage
• 34: Scirocco's Dervish: Damage/Recharge
• 34: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Recharge
  

Level 24: Soul Drain

• A: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage
• 36: Scirocco's Dervish: Damage/Recharge
• 36: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Recharge
• 48: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 48: Scirocco's Dervish: Damage/Endurance
  

Level 26: Oppressive Gloom

• A: Absolute Amazement: Chance for ToHit Debuff
  

Level 28: Soul Transfer

• A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb
  

Level 30: Dark Consumption

• A: Synapse's Shock: EndMod/Increased Run Speed
• 37: Synapse's Shock: Damage/Accuracy/Endurance
• 40: Synapse's Shock: EndMod
• 46: Synapse's Shock: Damage/Rechage
• 47: Synapse's Shock: EndMod/Recharge
• 47: Synapse's Shock: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

• A: Superior Blistering Cold: Recharge/Chance for Hold
• 43: Superior Blistering Cold: Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
• 45: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage
• 45: Superior Blistering Cold: Damage/Endurance
• 45: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 46: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 35: Kick

• A: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge
  

Level 38: Tough

• A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 39: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
• 39: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
• 39: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP
• 40: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• 40: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
  

Level 41: Weave

• A: Shield Wall: Defense
• 42: Kismet: Accuracy +6%
• 42: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 42: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
• 43: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance
• 43: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 44: Combat Teleport

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 47: Teleport

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 49: Fold Space

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
  

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (Empty)
  

Level 2: Rest

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Swift

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Hurdle

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Health

• A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
  

Level 1: Stamina

• A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
• 11: Performance Shifter: EndMod
  

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Accolades:

• Portal Jockey
• Task Force Commander
• The Atlas Medallion
• Freedom Phalanx Reserve
  

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Incarnates:

Melee Radial EmbodimentDiamagnetic Core Flawless InterfaceAgeless Radial EpiphanyCardiac Radial Paragon

 

Damage Build:

Spoiler

Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.6.6 rev. 3
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• Primary powerset: Dark Armor
• Secondary powerset: Dark Melee
• Pool powerset (#1): Speed
• Pool powerset (#2): Teleportation
• Pool powerset (#3): Leaping
• Pool powerset (#4): Flight
• Epic powerset: Soul Mastery
  

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Death Shroud

• A: Obliteration: Damage
• 33: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
• 43: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 48: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 49: Obliteration: Damage/Recharge
  

Level 1: Smite

• A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
• 3: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
• 3: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
• 5: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 5: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 7: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  

Level 2: Dark Embrace

• A: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP
• 23: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
  

Level 4: Hasten

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
• 9: Invention: Recharge Reduction
• 9: Invention: Recharge Reduction
  

Level 6: Murky Cloud

• A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
• 23: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
  

Level 8: Obsidian Shield

• A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
• 37: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
  

Level 10: Dark Regeneration

• A: Touch of the Nictus: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
• 11: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
• 11: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
• 47: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 47: Touch of the Nictus: Healing/Absorb/Recharge
• 48: Touch of the Nictus: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 12: Cloak of Darkness

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 13: Red Fortune: Endurance
• 13: Red Fortune: Defense
• 15: Red Fortune: Defense/Endurance
• 15: Red Fortune: Endurance/Recharge
• 17: Red Fortune: Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 14: Shadow Maul

• A: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage
• 17: Armageddon: Damage
• 21: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge
• 25: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 25: Armageddon: Recharge/Accuracy
• 27: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
  

Level 16: Siphon Life

• A: Mako's Bite: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• 45: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
• 45: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 46: Mako's Bite: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
• 46: Mako's Bite: Damage/Recharge
• 46: Mako's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 18: Taunt

• A: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
  

Level 20: Touch of Fear

• A: Glimpse of the Abyss: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
• 27: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 29: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
• 29: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
• 34: Fury of the Gladiator: Chance for Res Debuff
• 34: Fury of the Gladiator: Accuracy/Damage
  

Level 22: Combat Teleport

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 24: Soul Drain

• A: Adjusted Targeting: Recharge
• 34: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Endurance
• 36: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff
• 36: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Recharge
• 36: Adjusted Targeting: Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 26: Soul Transfer

• A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb
  

Level 28: Dark Consumption

• A: Obliteration: Damage
• 37: Obliteration: Damage/Recharge
• 37: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 40: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 45: Obliteration: Accuracy/Recharge
  

Level 30: Midnight Grasp

• A: Hecatomb: Chance of Damage(Negative)
• 31: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 31: Hecatomb: Damage
• 31: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge
• 33: Hecatomb: Recharge/Accuracy
• 33: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
  

Level 32: Teleport

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 35: Combat Jumping

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 38: Gloom

• A: Apocalypse: Chance of Damage(Negative)
• 39: Apocalypse: Damage
• 39: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 39: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge
• 40: Apocalypse: Recharge/Accuracy
• 40: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  

Level 41: Dark Obliteration

• A: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff
• 42: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
• 42: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
• 42: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
• 43: Annihilation: Damage/RechargeTime
• 43: Annihilation: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  

Level 44: Hover

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 47: Fold Space

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
  

Level 49: Summon Widow

• A: Expedient Reinforcement: Endurance/Damage/Recharge
• A: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Recharge
• 50: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (Empty)
  

Level 2: Rest

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Swift

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Hurdle

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Health

• A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
• 19: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery
  

Level 1: Stamina

• A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
• 7: Performance Shifter: EndMod
• 21: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Accuracy
  

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Incarnates:

Assault Core EmbodimentMighty Radial Final JudgementDegenerative Core Flawless InterfaceMusculature Core Paragon

 

 

Tanker (Dark Armor - Dark Melee).mbd Tanker (Dark Armor - Dark Melee) Damage.mbd

[Sovera]

Dark/Dark has nothing to really push the damage Dark Melee is pretty mild in terms of damage because it's filled with utility goodness and there had to be a tax, and Dark Armor has nothing that helps with damage.

 

Taking a look at your damage variant I can say you've gone pretty light shoring your defenses. Even with the ATO not giving the 6.7% it can be added with napkin maths and your S/L would be at 48% ish. For the most common damage type and as a Tanker it's pretty dire. For the easy content Dark Regen is usually enough but anything slightly harder with debuffs and I don't predict a healthy future. That said it can work as Ston's testing has shown.

 

 

I can only offer some small tips:

 

+5 two slots of Hasten (open the IO window and before clicking to choose the recharge IO press + five times) to save one slot.

You forgot the Shield Wall 5% and the Reactive Defences scaling resist IO for another 8% global resistances.

You forgot both 3% Defense uniques. Even if you're not building towards defenses you're still at 13% and it would push to 19% which would help make a few hits miss (but since not building towards defence it's not necessary).

Change all Zinger psi damage procs for Touch of Death negative damage procs. Psi is one of the most resisted damage types.

Consider ditching Soul Transfer, Summon Widow and Hover to grab Punch, Tough and Weave. Even not slotting or using Weave you can use it to replace Hover as a LotG proc and Tough would help your S/L resistances. Summon Widow may look like a damage loss but the thing is pretty squishy and will die off from the AoEs centered on you (if it was completely ranged it might survive longer. Might being the operative word).

 

 

I don't have much more advice to give since I haven't delved deep into Dark Armor. I'm more of Fire Armor type, and, lately, Stone Armor.

[Uncle Shags]

Thanks for your help!  I didn't know psy was so resisted!  I guess I assumed it was rare like for us PCs.  The defense uniques are an easy add.  The steadfast one works nicely because it'll match with that KB protection unique.  The +res ones I'd really like, but can only find a spot for one of them.  I could take a slot from health or stamina if my end issues end up being manageable.  I fit both +res IOs.  I hesitate to go the fighting route, as I love Soul Transfer, and I am fully prepared for max squishiness.  See my explanation below.

 

I can understand your concerns about my survival.  And perhaps confusion.  Who builds a tank with less than 50% S/L resist and defense in the teens?!  It's a wonky idea. 

 

Maybe a little more background will help communicate my idea.  For years I've bounced from one new alt to another.  I've always been searching for a "main" and had almost given up on the idea.  But with my latest alt, my dark/dark tank, I feel like I finally have a main.  I'm probably delusional, and will roll a new toon in a week, but for now I really feel like he scratches all my itches.  I could blabber for another paragraph extolling his virtues, but I'll save you the time.  In other words, I really want to lean into this "main" idea.

 

I pretty much exclusively play on teams.  My DD tank does great and I love it.  He's a indestructible beast.  But there have been a few rare times when I've felt like I wasn't contributing much - the team had another tank, had lots of CC and didn't need tanking, or could use more damage.  On those occasions I got the urge to switch to an alt.  Recently I did that - I got on my stalker and blew stuff up.  But in the end I felt like I wanted to be back on my tank.  Well, I remembered they added the option of alternate builds for characters!  And I've saved up a ton of cash by not having to kit out new alts.  And maybe, just maybe I can squeeze enough damage out of this guy with a wonky glass cannon build to keep the altitis at bay!  Maybe I'm crazy.  But maybe crazy like a fox...

 

So that's the deal.  Full on glass cannon!  (Okay, dark/dark tank cannon...)  Even though it'll never top the damage charts and I'll surely be a very poor excuse for a scrapper or blapper or fire tank, I still want to give it a shot!  I think I'll be doing double the damage of my regular build.  That's nothing to sneeze at.  I'm guessing I'll play my normal build 90% of the time.  But when the stars align and the team needs moar damage...  Beep boop beep!  Moar damage has arrived!

 

Thanks again for your help and hanging in there with my strange request.  =P

 

Here's an updated version:

 

Spoiler

Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.6.6 rev. 3
──────────────────────────────

• Primary powerset: Dark Armor
• Secondary powerset: Dark Melee
• Pool powerset (#1): Speed
• Pool powerset (#2): Teleportation
• Pool powerset (#3): Leaping
• Pool powerset (#4): Flight
• Epic powerset: Soul Mastery

──────────────────────────────

Powers taken:

Level 1: Death Shroud

• A: Obliteration: Damage
• 33: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
• 43: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 48: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 49: Obliteration: Damage/Recharge

Level 1: Smite

• A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
• 3: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 3: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
• 5: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 5: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 7: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 2: Dark Embrace

• A: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP
• 23: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance

Level 4: Hasten

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
• 9: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 6: Murky Cloud

• A: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• 23: Gladiator's Armor: End/Resist

Level 8: Obsidian Shield

• A: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
• 37: Steadfast Protection: Knockback Protection

Level 10: Dark Regeneration

• A: Touch of the Nictus: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
• 11: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
• 11: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
• 47: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 47: Touch of the Nictus: Healing/Absorb/Recharge
• 48: Touch of the Nictus: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge

Level 12: Cloak of Darkness

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 13: Red Fortune: Endurance
• 13: Red Fortune: Defense
• 15: Red Fortune: Defense/Endurance
• 15: Red Fortune: Endurance/Recharge
• 17: Red Fortune: Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 14: Shadow Maul

• A: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage
• 17: Armageddon: Damage
• 21: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge
• 25: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 25: Armageddon: Damage/Endurance
• 27: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage

Level 16: Siphon Life

• A: Mako's Bite: Accuracy/Damage
• 45: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
• 45: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 46: Mako's Bite: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
• 46: Mako's Bite: Damage/Endurance
• 46: Mako's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 18: Taunt

• A: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage

Level 20: Touch of Fear

• A: Glimpse of the Abyss: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
• 27: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
• 29: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
• 29: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
• 34: Fury of the Gladiator: Chance for Res Debuff
• 34: Fury of the Gladiator: Accuracy/Damage

Level 22: Combat Teleport

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 24: Soul Drain

• A: Adjusted Targeting: Recharge
• 34: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Endurance
• 36: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff
• 36: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Recharge
• 36: Adjusted Targeting: Endurance/Recharge

Level 26: Soul Transfer

• A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 28: Dark Consumption

• A: Obliteration: Damage
• 37: Obliteration: Damage/Recharge
• 37: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 40: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 45: Obliteration: Accuracy/Recharge

Level 30: Midnight Grasp

• A: Hecatomb: Chance of Damage(Negative)
• 31: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 31: Hecatomb: Damage
• 31: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge
• 33: Hecatomb: Recharge/Accuracy
• 33: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage

Level 32: Teleport

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 35: Combat Jumping

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 42: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 38: Gloom

• A: Apocalypse: Chance of Damage(Negative)
• 39: Apocalypse: Damage
• 39: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 39: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge
• 40: Apocalypse: Recharge/Accuracy
• 40: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 41: Dark Obliteration

• A: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
• 42: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
• 42: Cloud Senses: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
• 43: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff
• 43: Annihilation: Accuracy/Damage

Level 44: Hover

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 48: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage

Level 47: Fold Space

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 49: Summon Widow

• A: Expedient Reinforcement: Endurance/Damage/Recharge
• A: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Recharge
• 50: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

──────────────────────────────

Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

• (Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

• (Empty)

Level 2: Rest

• (Empty)

Level 1: Swift

• (Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

• (Empty)

Level 1: Health

• A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
• 19: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 1: Stamina

• A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
• 7: Performance Shifter: EndMod
• 21: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Accuracy

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Incarnates:

Assault Core EmbodimentMighty Radial Final JudgementDegenerative Core Flawless InterfaceMusculature Core Paragon

 

 

 

Tanker (Dark Armor - Dark Melee) Damage.mbd

Edited June 12 by Uncle Shags
Changed the build

[Sovera]

Quite alright. The important thing is to have fun (I don't mean this as a platitude) and in a full team there will always be buffs to help shore things up.

 

 

I see you've managed to squeeze in both defense and resistance uniques which will help a bit more. You forgot to change the Zinger procs but it's not terribly important in the end even if you don't.

 

One important tip I forgot was to add a Theft of Essence to Dark Regeneration (not really Siphon Life) which will do some heavy lifting countering its cost, and, it should be said, your endurance should not be too problematic since you have Dark Consumption, but you might want to actually slot it for endurance modification. I would toss in six Synapse Shock in there as the bonuses add a little bit of everything good for the build, but if you're aiming for damage consider adding more damage procs to it.

 

If you do want to proc bomb Dark Regeneration then it's a choice but it's such a heavy power that I'd aim for more endurance reduction foremost. It costs a huge chunk of endurance to use and with most of your attacks heavy on procs and light on endurance you should definitely consider Dark Consumption to be properly slotted. I would personally put five Panacea and one +5 accuracy but that would run counter to glass cannony. But both Dark Consumption and Dark Regeneration are the foundations of the build and they should carry the rest of the build, in my opinion. You might that this is not needed though.

 

In the same vein you could/should quadruple proccing Siphon Life as the bonuses you worked in are not terribly useful and SL should only be needed every 4 seconds so it does not need accuracy. It *will* be endurance heavy though, but the damage goes up to 501 as opposed to 393 as you have now (Soul Drain with just one enemy). Midnight Grasp should stay as is (though exclude the damage IO as it is not needed) since it is your heavy hitter (544). You do have a workable ST rotation without Gloom but though it hits decently hard (390) it only replaces one use of Smite. You can/could easily ditch it, recover the slots, and still have a gapless ST rotation (Midnight grasp recharges in 4.3 seconds. Smite (1.2), Siphon Life (2.1), Smite (1.2) makes 1.2 + 2.1 + 1.2 = 4.5).

 

Now, Gloom is better than Smite as Smite only does 230 damage, but it's just to say you don't NEED a fourth attack and the slots that went into it. That said it does do a decent chunk more than Smite and one Gloom replaces one Smite in the above rotation. But Smite does carry your ATO and you want to spam it for the stacks so, heh, decisions. It's mostly about scrounging the five slots though but Gloom does do almost twice the damage.

 

Regarding incarnates I'd take the Musculature that also gives 33% endurance since you need every bit you can scrounge. The damage difference is absolutely minimal (despite saying 45% damage it's actually more like 15%, and switching to the 33% version makes it about 11% if I recall correctly).

 

 

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[Uncle Shags]

Sweeeet!  This is exactly what I was hoping for!  You rock.  Making builds in this game is so fun...

 

I'm going to get in and tinker with this and do some thinking.  Thanks much.  I've got a lot to think about.

 

 

 

 

[Uncle Shags]

Well I went for it!  Spent probably 600m. Which for me, is a lot...

 

I still don't have the assault and musc incarnates leveled up well, but so far I can say it's okay.  Squishier than normal, but not too bad.  9 second Dark Regen is no joke...  Solo, I can still do +4/8 vs carnies, Arachnos, and Malta, which is kind of my measuring stick.  I have to be more careful though - I can't collect multiple groups and stand there while they beat on me.  But they go down much faster.  I can 1 shot minions and 3 shot Lts.  And the added aoe damage is nice.  I played a couple missions with a 54 MJ team where I did fine.  I can still tank the AVs (which I know isn't saying much) and feel like I did decent damage.  I died to a big pack of blue meanies, though, which is embarrassing...  But that's what Soul Transfer is for!  I suspect I'll get better when I figure out how to play it.  I did two pylon tests.  The first was 4:19, the second 6 minutes.  Which to me says there's opportunity to tinker with my rotation, if I get to the point of caring about it that much.

 

The only down side (other than spending so much inf on a sub-par "damage" build) is that switching between builds resets the cool down on all powers.  Which isn't a huge deal, but it's kind of a pain for some of the longer recharge powers like incarnates and prestige powers.

 

I say mission accomplished!    Thanks for your help!

[C U R S E]

If you want a Tank with damage and insane utility with survivability, may I suggest a Bio/Dark Tank. I have one and he is absurdly ridiculous, add in the proc'd attacks with offensive adaptation and soul drain. Siphon life every 5.3 seconds heal at 364, is insane. Not much else to say except, kill and have fun.

[Uncle Shags]

I scrapped the D/D second build.  Just wasn't tough enough.  I got embarrassed when I couldn't tank semi-difficult content.  And the damage was still subpar.  

 

Instead I used the enh/inf from that build and made a stacked a Fire/Axe.  It's super fun, easily durable enough for the stuff I do, and puts out really nice damage. 

 

Super fast recharged Axe Cyclone/Burn combo is crazy awesome.

[Sovera]

3 hours ago, Uncle Shags said:

I scrapped the D/D second build.  Just wasn't tough enough.  I got embarrassed when I couldn't tank semi-difficult content.  And the damage was still subpar.  

 

Instead I used the enh/inf from that build and made a stacked a Fire/Axe.  It's super fun, easily durable enough for the stuff I do, and puts out really nice damage. 

 

Super fast recharged Axe Cyclone/Burn combo is crazy awesome.

 

Take a gander at the Stone/Fire Melee in my signature. I leveled a second one and have no complaints be it in survival or damage. Defense debuffs can still kill it as I realized when I jumped into a room filled with praetorian robots and tried to fight three spawns at once plus an EB. Barrier would have prevented that I reckon but I was a fresh level 50.

 

My next goal is to get a pylon test going but since I'm 'cheating' by having a -res proc slotted I'm thinking it might get a 3 minuter mark, but it's dumb trying to eyeball it. I'll post once I get a pylon down.

[Mini-Mega]

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