Endurance Woes

[Psyonico]

11 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

but Evasive Manuevers does not require you to be flying or hovering to work. Between Evasive Maneuvers, Weave, and the two +3% Def IOs, you could be up towards 26% defense,

Unless it was changed in page 2, evasive maneuvers only provides defense out of combat

[Ultimo]

7 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

Unless it was changed in page 2, evasive maneuvers only provides defense out of combat

Ya, that's correct.

I just finished respeccing, and took Evasive Maneuvers, on the thought that it would boost the speed of the Void Skiff... and it does, by ONE mph.  ONE!  Good lord.  I may have to re-respec and take something else.

[Erratic1]

12 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

Unless it was changed in page 2, evasive maneuvers only provides defense out of combat

 

Just flew a character up to white con targets and it did not supress while in combat. And when I toggled it off, their chance to hit went up. Seems to be working in combat.

 

 

Between the top set of attacks and bottom, I toggled Evasive Manuevers off.

Edited Saturday at 12:03 AM by Erratic1

[Psyonico]

The movement doesn’t suppress, but the defense does.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=pool.flight.afterburner

 

Notes:
Evasive Maneuvers provides a moderate amount of Defense even while on the ground, but this defense is lost if you attack, buff allies, give an order to pets or interact with a mission objective.

[Ultimo]

Well, here's what I respecced to.  I may swap out Evasive Maneuvers if it turns out it's NOT useful in combat OR to boost my flight speed.

 

[Erratic1]

8 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

The movement doesn’t suppress, but the defense does.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=pool.flight.afterburner

 

 

 

 

 

Ahh, I was just sitting on top of them. Let me go check with an attack.

 

Edit: It never drops value on the Combat Monitor but I also get inconsistent "had a xx.xx% chance to hit" messages too. I'm inclined to believe you (and Uberguy) though and put it down to the Combat Monitor not updating to show a suppressed value.

Edited Saturday at 12:12 AM by Erratic1

[Ultimo]

I just tested it in a radio mission.  With Evasive Maneuvers on, my Defense is 21.53.  As soon as I make an attack, it drops to 3.08.

 

[Erratic1]

10 minutes ago, Ultimo said:

Well, here's what I respecced to.  I may swap out Evasive Maneuvers if it turns out it's NOT useful in combat OR to boost my flight speed.

 

I would trust @Psyonico and Uberguy on Evasive Manuevers.

 

While you have given your attacks one more slot, I am going to do some math for you to show you why that is a half (well, one-third) measure.

 

Unslotted, your Energy Blast attack does some amount of damage, call it X. Your target has N health. You will need to attack it N/X (rounded up) = K times to defeat it. Slotting endurance cost reduction means you can make more attacks overall, but you need K attacks.

 

If you slot one damage enhancement which boosts your damage by 33%, then you need N/(X*1.33) = K/1.33 (rounded up) attacks. So you make fewer attacks and spend less endurance because you've made fewer attacks.

 

So which was more beneficial to you? Slotting endurance reduction or slotting damage?

 

Don't slot endurance reduction unless you absolutely need to, and generally don't do it on an attack before you've maxed out its damage. If you double the attacks damage by fully slotting it for damage you now use half the attacks, spend half the endurance, and it lives to damage you for half the time.

[Erratic1]

7 minutes ago, Ultimo said:

I just tested it in a radio mission.  With Evasive Maneuvers on, my Defense is 21.53.  As soon as I make an attack, it drops to 3.08.

 

Got it. The total updates, the value for the power does not.

[Psyonico]

2 hours ago, Erratic1 said:

 

Got it. The total updates, the value for the power does not.

Yeah, I noticed this is a thing that happens, the buff (or debuff) will show its full strength in the subheading, but any resistance or suppression will show in the line header.