TW/RAD

[Slithershot]

Stop me if you've heard this one before... oh, you haven't? 

 

Seriously though, there's gotta be a weirdo out there like me that thinks rad armor is a decent compliment to TW. Anyone out there got a build for this?  

[Cabron]

Not weird, I understand Rad and Bio are the two most complimentary for the set. Bio is more "clicky" but has the damage boost trade-off. While rad takes less active management.

 

I was going to create a post requesting a build critique anyway so here goes my future build.

 

This guy is level 40 currently so much of this is hypothetical.

 

I've not found a TW/Rad build so I've based the below from */Rad and TW/* builds and my experience with builds in general. He's as close to the Melee Def and all Resist caps as I can get without sacrificing damage output.

 

All comments welcome.

 

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Zag: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Crushing Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(7)
Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(37)
Level 2: Titan Sweep -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(7), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Arm-Acc/Rchg(9), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(11), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(11)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 6: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 8: Gamma Boost -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 10: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Follow Through -- GldStr-Acc/Dmg(A), GldStr-Dam/Rech(13), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(13), GldStr-Acc/End/Rech(15), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(15), FrcFdb-Rechg%(17)
Level 14: Build Momentum -- GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(17), GssSynFr--Build%(43)
Level 16: Fallout Shelter -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Radiation Therapy -- TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(39), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(40)
Level 20: Rend Armor -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(21), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Hct-Acc/Rchg(23), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), AchHee-ResDeb%(25)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def(39), LucoftheG-Rchg+(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(40)
Level 24: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), AchHee-DefDeb(48)
Level 26: Whirling Smash -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(31)
Level 28: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(42), Prv-Absorb%(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg(45), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(46), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(34)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 38: Meltdown -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(42), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 44: Ground Zero -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(50)
Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Rchg+(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), PrfShf-End%(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Momentum 
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[Slithershot]

Awesome, I'll give that a look over and see if I can figure out stuff.

 

As far as actual combat goes, what's the general like... rotation for TW? I see people take pretty much everything but taunt and defensive sweep. 

[Seigmoraig]

Defensive Sweep depends on your secondary really, since it gives +def during the animation it would depend a lot on where you are on your def cap progress and if your secondary is res based or def based.
My TW character isn't max level yet so Defensive Sweep is very useful, I mean since i'm going to wind up for momentum, I might as well get +def while it's winding up

Edited August 29, 2019 by Seigmoraig

[Hyperstrike]

I'd take a slightly different tack from Cabron's build.

Slight modifications (and the choice of a Cardiac Alpha).
Gets you to maxed Resists in most Types.

 

 

 

 

 

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Zag: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Crushing Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(5), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(7)
Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:40(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(25), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(37)
Level 2: Titan Sweep -- Arm-Dmg:50(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), Arm-Acc/Rchg:50(9), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx:50(11), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit:50(11)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42)
Level 6: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(34), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(37)
Level 8: Gamma Boost -- PrfShf-End%:50(A)
Level 10: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 12: Follow Through -- GldStr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), GldStr-Dam/Rech:50(13), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech:50(13), GldStr-Acc/End/Rech:50(15), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(15), FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(17)
Level 14: Build Momentum -- GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg:50(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(17), GssSynFr--Build%:50(43)
Level 16: Fallout Shelter -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), UnbGrd-ResDam:50(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 18: Radiation Therapy -- TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen:30(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal:50(39), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg:50(40)
Level 20: Rend Armor -- Hct-Dmg:50(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg:50(21), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), Hct-Acc/Rchg:50(23), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx:50(23), AchHee-ResDeb%:20(25)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(39), LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(40)
Level 24: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%:20(A), AchHee-DefDeb:20(48)
Level 26: Whirling Smash -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit:50(31)
Level 28: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal:50(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx:50(42), Prv-Absorb%:50(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(45), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(46), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 30: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(A)
Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit:50(34)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 38: Meltdown -- RechRdx-I:20(A)
Level 41: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(42), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45)
Level 44: Ground Zero -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(50)
Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(48), LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(48), Rct-ResDam%:50(50)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- Mrc-Rcvry+:40(A), PrfShf-End%:50(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:40(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(40)
Level 1: Momentum
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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[Cabron]

As Seigmoraig says DS can work in your build if you want, in my build I would simply swap it for crushing blow but it would leave my chains lobsided for single attacks (2 ST to 4 AoE). With a sucessful DS this build would hit Melee Def cap.

 

Regarding chains it depends on the situation, I usually open with AoE and cones and finish on ST attacks to finish the bosses. The attacks are slow, very slow so it takes some getting used to it. It improves as you get used to Momentum. Also take Hasten early (I took it at lvl 4) to speed up at least some attacks asap. You will also suck end so stock blues in the early levels. In attack powers I slotted 1 Acc, 3 Dmg and 2 End rdx. Three slot resists on your shields asap. I also learnt to let my team mates deal with the minions on a sliver of health. Your role is the alpha strikes.

 

The dmg is glorious though. TW is probably one of if not the highest AoE AND ST damage sets in the game.

 

This is an end build btw, Leveling builds will differ, I usually take the majority of secondary and primary powers to test drive them while lvling.

 

I point you at this thread which has some useful advice: 

 

[Cabron]

13 minutes ago, Hyperstrike said:

I'd take a slightly different tack from Cabron's build.

Slight modifications (and the choice of a Cardiac Alpha).
Gets you to maxed Resists in most Types.

 

 

 

 

 

I was planning to take Musculature Alpha for more smash and so I'm willing to sacrifice a bit more survivability for this.

 

Regarding the FF proc in Kick, I'm assuming I would need to work Kick into the rotation to proc the recharge? I've never totally understood the FF mechanic.

 

The extra resist in Weave is a good call.

 

[Seigmoraig]

1 hour ago, Cabron said:

 

I was planning to take Musculature Alpha for more smash and so I'm willing to sacrifice a bit more survivability for this.

 

Regarding the FF proc in Kick, I'm assuming I would need to work Kick into the rotation to proc the recharge? I've never totally understood the FF mechanic.

 

The extra resist in Weave is a good call.

 

From what I gather with the FF in kick, it's more of a thing you press when your recharge is debuffed to hope you get a lucky 10% proc to help you get back on your feet, not something you use in your active rotation. Since you are getting the power anyway for tough/weave you might as well try to get a little something out of it

Edited August 29, 2019 by Seigmoraig

[Hyperstrike]

Yeah, basically Kick >>> Boxing.
At least with Kick, you can slot something potentially useful (like the FF proc).  There's really nothing that useful you can slot into Boxing.

It's not really meant for a normal attack chain rotation.
As Seigmoraig said, it's one of those things you just toss out there if you get Recharge debuffed.

 

[Slithershot]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Got my girl to 38 and she's still real squishy for the most part, but got damn does she hit harder than butterbean on PCP.