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They were mostly fine and still are. A decent ATO would have been good as many agreed, even me. Tweaks were mentioned but Brutes tended to want the old glory days back. Don't get me wrong the Tanker buff was OTT and should have been tweaked but not like this. Two wrongs aren't making a right here. They got it wrong before and they got it wrong yet again. Brute players should have been more constructive and vocal about Brute improvements, which still sit in an awkward position,(i'd still pick a Scrapper/Stalker), and less damning of another AT which had vastly improved and become actual fun.

How about ranged cones that some Tankers get but all ranged classes get? Do they hit just 5 also?

They certainly won't be now.

Exactly. Hopefully the moaning threads will stop now even though they didn't get any real Brute improvements. It will be doubtful if they get any now.

Procs, buffs/debuffs, Range/AoE , certain sets and target caps add to basic damage scales, of which defenders are agreed, near the bottom. Defenders get a solo buff and 16/10 target caps just to clarify. I am not saying defenders are the best but they are not shabby either for what they bring. Procs are easier to leverage on certain sets and can unbalance them easily. It is not just the AT's fault. At least Brutes should be happy now and no buffs/ATO work needed for them as it could create imbalance. I will protest it if they do.

I guess you need to be there. Primary helps a bunch. Hmmm don't defenders/corrs/blasters get more anyway than melee lol?

Other clear time and pylon tests were done also and you will find a corruptor will destroy any Tanker/Brute in clearing both of them it seems lol. No one seems bothered about that, but lets pick on Tankers instead. My defender will clear a Pylon as fast as my tankers and easily kept up clearing maps pre nerf. Extremely survivable and buffs/heals the whole team and is ranged also....priceless. So what are they looking at nerfing next? Brutes?! lol. I won't object 🤣 Perhaps i should show some Corruptor clear times and get them nerfed and hopefully @Snarky will be happy another main is nerfed 😛

If they ever get around to giving the Brutes a decent ATO which they need, this could change even more. Brute ATO probably should have been done before Tanker nerf.

I probably won't stomach playing my Tanker if they become a shadow of their former selves. Tweaks good, heavy handed nerfs bad. Brutes complaints have fallen on deaf ears for years, do i want the same treatment? NO. I play corruptors more and more now and they are just easier. Good single and AoE damage (better than Tanker damage by a lot), Ranged which is just easier, buff the whole team and themselves and they don't have the pressure of Tanking for a team.

It depends on who uses and abuses it also.

It is one of the more annoying powers that have been introduced by the developers in their infinite wisdom.

Certain sets do give that 800 hp boost over the Scrapper and also the higher mitigation cap, but yes not a huge difference in some cases. As i said i would certainly back a Brute buff/rework/something defining. I am a more bring Brutes up a little and Tankers down only a little kind of guy rather than just smack big nerfs on the Tanker. Scrappers wreck hard targets and do well generally, mainly hampered by lack of taunt. Stalkers ummmm uuhhhhh? dunno lol.

I think most Brutes tend to build their mitigations to be more like Tankers and Tankers just have it easier doing this. But a Brute could proc and still have better survival than Scrappers. No one expects Brutes to main Tank if there is a Tanker around, but a Tanker is probably expected to and have taunt. I would be very happy for Brutes to get a nice buff/small rework to improve their role though.