Pyrul

Hi all, Looking to get some eyes on this somewhat unicorn combination. It's intended as an end game, primarily ranged, high recharge, hover build. I've tried to rearrange my mind/fire accordingly to come up with the below. My only real concern is my incarnates and the final power pool selection. I'm currently sitting with Presence as it's thematically a good inclusion however I've no experience with the powers there in especially Unrelenting. Other thoughts have been Concealment for the mass placate (any good??) and final LotG mule, Sorcery for RoP, Experimentation and Force of Will. I'm pretty cruisey on suggestions re the above, on top of any slotting improvements anyone might have :) Cheers in advance. Py. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Dominator Primary Power Set: Mind Control Secondary Power Set: Dark Assault Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Presence Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Mesmerize -- HO:Nucle(A) Level 1: Dark Blast -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(3), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5) Level 2: Dominate -- NrnSht-Dam%(A), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(7), UnbCns-Dam%(7), GldNet-Dam%(9), GldJvl-Dam%(9), SprDmnGrs-Rchg/Fiery Orb(11) Level 4: Gloom -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg(11), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Apc-Acc/Rchg(13), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(15), GldJvl-Dam%(15) Level 6: Confuse -- SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprAscoft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(17), SprAscoft-EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(19), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprAscoft-Rchg/+Dmg%(21) Level 8: Mass Hypnosis -- FrtHyp-Sleep(A), FrtHyp-Sleep/Rchg(21), FrtHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(23), FrtHyp-Acc/Rchg(23), FrtHyp-Plct%(25) Level 10: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 12: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(25) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27) Level 16: Gather Shadows -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 18: Total Domination -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(27), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(29), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29) Level 20: Pacify -- Acc-I(A) Level 22: Intimidate -- GlmoftheA-Dam%(A), GlmoftheA-Acc/Rchg(33), GlmoftheA-Acc/EndRdx(33), GlmoftheA-Acc/Fear/Rchg(33), GlmoftheA-EndRdx/Fear(34) Level 24: Unrelenting -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(31), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Prv-Heal/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Prv-Absorb%(36) Level 26: Terrify -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(36), Artl-Dam/Rech(36), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(37), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(37), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(37) Level 28: Life Drain -- TchoftheN-Heal(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(39), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(39), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40) Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Mass Confusion -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(40), CrcPrs-Conf%(42), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(42), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(42), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(43) Level 35: Moon Beam -- StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(A), StnoftheM-Dam%(43), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(43), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(45), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), GldJvl-Dam%(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), TchofDth-Dam%(48) Level 41: Link Minds -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(50), ShlWal-EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 44: Indomitable Will -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 47: Mind Over Body -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(50) Level 49: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Domination Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 1: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(31) Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 49: Quick Form Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 10: Afterburner ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1430;674;1348;HEX;| |78DA65945B6F125110C7CFB24B29D08A48B917B0582E055CC0678D25D0AAB524242| |655E3053740E9460A84A5897E0A1FEBE58B787DF10B68B41A1335FAA8D6AA31C668| |13B30E3B73045392CD6FF77F76FE6766CE2CE56BA589D5D5C57926388A2D45D3AAA| |5CEBADA56FA9D9EB9AC34D59AC8E067812BFC6FA15AECB4FBBD4E4B2EABED3A7F18| |592E689AB2D1EACB25A577953F307BA503118B2DB5B9D6B719F767BA8D46DD69DC9| |695B6DADD68297DB5D37618CA7243A9377ADA9ADA8D2C74D59A5CD16049AD55CB8A| |D66FF4AE6396CDC1763EC82D0AD7B141A6C2205BA63376142089ECBB77284A6C139| |09098E926F11652BA4DBC833C0E4E0205990505EE42121B5B07E681A74C06C71744| |6406692B48067FC08E46CF06C1621E5FB665901332318BDC972392C93CC0CC7736D| |F4571FF3DE27DE48107C487C8A947C802C0C26BB5ACA0F3D459A4E71CF13CD27701| |6987A3B552BACC1A44272B88767212EC6E2CDCF787198D88C2E2245F9C4C3363314| |0FC09D53BF82138482C82AB9344D1B965326C022F90D32F89AF907EB07771075700| |1D8220BA294BC9FD1E133AF89AF896F80E39F3067923C698979F84F7039616FE48F| |C849CD9267E461EDA4196007E7E127ED18C8B12D18C9C1D235A88E3C85FB06D9007| |075DE818A7E98BD3F4C569FA12347D099A3E27D41AE20D0851F307C316E1B5442EE| |2D9252E21E714E215E26564AA8AFC0DE944793AD127D8D2D416F12932F38CF89C48| |23B90BC131BE732C8D8E87E3C424710E994D11AB584BD4C958929F7C926AC92EA17| |3FE04F124B51E5E4EF3514CD3ECCC8228F36993BDF82DE68F60C4E31463391E9123| |FBA834FCE4F56989F19F3E78D675B6BC57AA483C0224C190766CA3FF2686F465AFF| |4754412D80A26105E128CE2BFFDF7FE2676E6F448CAFAAE07349E2AF30CBF44FD2F| |B084D78C| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Since I'm the "in your face" blaster player I'll be looking at /Dark, /Fire, /Mental and /Earth :D

This intrigues me, any build ideas? finally trying to pull the trigger on a cold domination char🙂

@GobbledegookAny chance of seeing your Rad/DM build? this thread has piqued my interest as well but i've always struggled on what AT to use DM on. Any starting off point would be appreciated 🙂

I'm liking it a lot...it tickles my scrapper style gameplay as I already have a pure ranged permadom. Apart from /Earth Assault, IMO /Energy is the primo melee set...or at least it aesthetically feels so (i don't like blocks of dirt on my hands...I prefer pom poms!). I don't worry too much about the KB of the ranged attacks...they're only ST and thus nowhere near as annoying on teams...especially if you're the one who chases said KB'd enemy down just to smash their face more. Like many above have discussed, Artic Air is a must have which only bolsters the melee style gameplay, slowing enemies ability to run away from you is also quite hilarious and though the CP proc isn't what it once was...it's still very serviceable. In all I would recommend this combo if you like being in the face of your enemy 🙂 and if you colour /Energy like Ice it kinda feels you're smashing people with icy fists and shooting water but YMMV!

my global is @Pyrul so hit me up whenever to tee up a time.

I am keen to see how it plays. Am on indomitable but whatever works. But it seems the general consensus is that AA is a must have, that’s fair enough I just thought I’d throw it out to the group 🙂

Cheers for that! I'll have a thorough look when I'm home (I'm a shift worker). Also thank you @oedipus_tex and @Toxis for your inputs and builds! Peoples takes on the sets are quite unique and that's what I love about this game 🙂 One thought has come to mind during all this...and that is how set defining is Artic Air? Is it truly necessary? has anyone built an Ice/ troller or dom without it? I mean without it you could make a purely ranged build no? either use /Energy or /Fire...but then I guess the argument would be if that's the case then why not simply use Mind/. Without AA Ice/ looks similar to Earth/ just minus the versatility ie Quicksand and the AOE hold is ranged compared to PBAOE. I don't know I'm just spitballing and or/tired after work lol.

You make a solid point...don’t know why I didn’t think of /Psi. I don’t like to be reliable on my destiny but it’s always a welcomed boost to a build. Hmm might have to tinker with a /Psi build now to compare cheers Kira 😛

Cheers for your thoughts and tweaks mate! I was starting to think that the ratio of views to replies was an indication that this combo was not worth it 😛. I'm aware that Ice/ needs some love but I'll definitely give it the old college try. Ice Storm I like simply to add an AOE in there as /Energy severely lacks that sort of attack *shrugs*. It's up every 30 seconds so hopefully will get some mileage at least while soloing. However I do see the reasoning behind Hoarfrost. The proc'd out hold I was unsure of as I've never tried it before. You make a good point though as /Energy has quite a nice ST rotation as is on top of the better chance to proc the Ascendency piece.

Hi all, Just wanted to get some feedback on an ice/energy dom i'm thinking of making. Doesn't seem to be a common combo. Not married to the ice mastery but it seems to work thematically and practically on paper. Any help is appreciated. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Dominator Primary Power Set: Ice Control Secondary Power Set: Energy Assault Power Pool: Force of Will Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Block of Ice -- GldNet-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(3), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(3), GldJvl-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Acc/Dmg(5), GldJvl-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(7) Level 1: Power Bolt -- Dmg-I(A) Level 2: Bone Smasher -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9) Level 4: Mighty Leap -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(11) Level 6: Arctic Air -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(15), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(15), CrcPrs-Conf%(17) Level 8: Weaken Resolve -- AnlWkn-Acc/DefDeb(A) Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11) Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 16: Power Up -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 18: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(19), UnbGrd-Max HP%(19), UnbGrd-ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23) Level 20: Whirling Hands -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(23), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(25), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Obl-%Dam(27) Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(29), ShlWal-Def(29), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31) Level 24: Unleash Potential -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(33), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 26: Glacier -- SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprAscoft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(34), SprAscoft-EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(34), SprAscoft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprAscoft-Rchg/+Dmg%(36) Level 28: Total Focus -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), Hct-Dam%(39) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39) Level 32: Jack Frost -- CaltoArm-Acc/Rchg(A), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg(39), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), CaltoArm-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(40) Level 35: Sniper Blast -- StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(A), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(40), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(42), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), StnoftheM-Dam%(42) Level 38: Power Burst -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apc-Acc/Rchg(43), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Apc-Dam%(45), GldJvl-Dam%(45) Level 41: Sleet -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(45), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(46), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(46), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), AchHee-ResDeb%(48) Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48) Level 47: Ice Storm -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50) Level 49: Hibernate -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Domination Level 1: Quick Form Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1515;684;1368;HEX;| |78DA6594C94F136118C6BF69A722052C2D4BD90A58054A0B5D5834461363D8C296A| |0247A51EB046B6D525AD2562347FF034513AF1E3D7971DF0EFE0518F5A4D1E85D14| |05635CEBDB791E5A924E32F9CDF7BCDFBB7DCBCC5E1AADBE3D71F9B0D21C2349239| |B8D8EA61713292397CED8668D7862C1AAE4A990D753344447D2A95C269D0C4E2EC4| |B6BE3B4BD623D9AC7121990B8EA56299F8F2D650B9E6D2E2329ECE8853FA5CF4442| 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Hi all, just wanted a quick poll as to which you would roll on the fire/ice combo either for scrappers or stalkers. Also if anyone has experience playing that combo on either of those ATs I’d love to hear from you. my take is that defensively they’re identical numbers wise . Stalkers miss only icicles in favour of hide and offensively have assassin’s blaze in place of incinerate. Scrappers might hit harder from the get go with higher base damage but is that really noticeable nowadays with the changes to AS? keen to hear your thoughts and votes. Py

HoB is bugged still? oh the under performing damage? think i read about that in this forum. Well that's fair enough i guess, you can't really see how the build performs when you're opening salvo on every mob is neutered. Also agree with Lockpick about Ranged Def...this build needs to be in the mix every time to shine. However having said that, it IS useful against an alpha of ranged attacks from mobs just outside the melee threshold. Or if you or your group pull multiple mobs with exotic typed damage. @LockpickHow goes the leveling?

Wow I didn't think you guys would throw builds straight up! Seems like this combo IS a unicorn after all! 😄 Both look great imo. My only suggestion would be improving the global recharge but you would obviously sacrifice defense in doing so...question is...is it worth it? and if so...what defense type could you afford lowering? I mean close to perma Soul Drain would be the bees knees. Once i'm back at home i can tinker. Any thought's on the Flame Epic for Bonfire and Fire Shield? that could sway having a slight drop in Def because of the added mitigation. No i haven't unfortunately (at least not Dark Manipulation anyway) but like you i had a mild concept in mind and thought i'd ask the community whether or not this is actually a thing 🙂

Has anyone tried this combo? I’m curious to see if anyone has any info/experience regarding it. At a glance these 2 sets want to be up close and personal, so the synergies seem great for a melee blaster style gameplay. So is this combo a unicorn or simply not discussed? Is it terrible maybe? Chime in I’d like to hear people’s thoughts. Py