I am looking for a Stone / Stone Tank build.

[Mr-Trouble]

I had a stone stone back on in the day and can
t seem to find it anymore. Wondering if anyone could help me out with a build please.

[Funktastic]

 

[Hyperstrike]

Are you looking for a primarily Granite-centric build?
Or  what I term an "un-Granite" build?
 

 

[Hyperstrike]

Un-Granite example.

 

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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Stone Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(3), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(3), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Rct-ResDam%:50(5)
Level 1: Stone Fist -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Hct-Acc/Rchg:50(7), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx:50(9), Hct-Dam%:50(9)
Level 2: Stone Skin -- Ags-ResDam:50(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(11), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(13), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(13)
Level 4: Heavy Mallet -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg:50(17), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(19), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(21), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb:50(21)
Level 6: Earth's Embrace -- Ags-ResDam:50(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23)
Level 8: Mud Pots -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg:50(25), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(25), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%:50(29)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%:50(A)
Level 12: Rooted -- Pnc-Heal:50(A), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux:50(29), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Pnc-Heal/Rchg:50(31), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg:50(31)
Level 14: Brimstone Armor -- Ags-ResDam:50(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(33), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33)
Level 16: Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 18: Crystal Armor -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(33), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(34), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34)
Level 20: Fault -- FrcFdb-Acc/KB:50(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(34), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(36), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg:50(36), PrfZng-Dam%:50(36)
Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Ags-ResDam:50(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(37), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 26: Minerals -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(37), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(39)
Level 28: Hurl Boulder -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(40), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(40), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc:50(42)
Level 30: Weave -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(43)
Level 32: Teleport -- Range-I:50(A)
Level 35: Tremor -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(45)
Level 38: Seismic Smash -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(48), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(48)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(48), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(50), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50)
Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- RgnTss-Regen+:30(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(15), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(15)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(17)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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[jagspowar]

On 11/11/2019 at 2:47 AM, Hyperstrike said:

Un-Granite example.

Have you given this build a shot at all? Curious if it's viable. I'd love to play Stone/Stone but I don't see anyone using them, and I'm wondering if it's for good reason... it seems the options are: 1) Slow moving with granite, 2)not softcapped without granite 3)low damage?

[Hyperstrike]

15 minutes ago, jagspowar said:

Have you given this build a shot at all? Curious if it's viable. I'd love to play Stone/Stone but I don't see anyone using them, and I'm wondering if it's for good reason... it seems the options are: 1) Slow moving with granite, 2)not softcapped without granite 3)low damage?

You don't see a lot of Stone Tanks PERIOD nowadays.
The game has evolved to the point where Stone's glaring problems are no longer outweighed by phenomenal survivability.
A similarly equipped Invuln or Shielder can be 99.99% as tough without the massive mobility and combat issues.

[jagspowar]

1 hour ago, Hyperstrike said:

You don't see a lot of Stone Tanks PERIOD nowadays.
The game has evolved to the point where Stone's glaring problems are no longer outweighed by phenomenal survivability.
A similarly equipped Invuln or Shielder can be 99.99% as tough without the massive mobility and combat issues.

Does this "ungranite" build solve that issue? Or is stone armor just kind of useless without it and stone melee not as good in the damage department? I have a concept for a character that I want to play, but I don't want to scale him all the way up if I'm going to be lagging behind.

[Luigrein]

I had a stone/stone tank on live and he was great. That said: in granite without IOs you will have better survivability than some IOd builds. With IOs you are THE most unkillable thing. The catch is you give up a good chunk of movement, recharge, and damage for that title. Meanwhile solid IO builds are just ever so slightly behind you and give up none of those.

 

Running out of granite you can be a perfectly fine tank, you won’t be in contention for toughest thing ever but the situations that call for that level of survivability border on nonexistent (possibly ARE even.) However, while your recharge and damage are back to normal, you still have a mobility penalty. Rooted is your mez protection toggle and it comes with mobility limitations.

 

If it fits your concept and you like the aesthetics/feel of the sets go for it! You’ll be a little clunky on movement (teleport is the only travel power that plays nice with stone armor) but it’s not like you’ll be a detriment to your teams.

[Hyperstrike]

Ungranite doesn't TOTALLY fix it.  You still have some -SPD.  But it cuts out more -SPD, -RECH and -DMG.
You still have most of your status and KB Protection.
So it "spackles over" the worst of the problems

[Hyperstrike]

7 minutes ago, Luigrein said:

I had a stone/stone tank on live and he was great. That said: in granite without IOs you will have better survivability than some IOd builds. With IOs you are THE most unkillable thing. The catch is you give up a good chunk of movement, recharge, and damage for that title. Meanwhile solid IO builds are just ever so slightly behind you and give up none of those.

 

Running out of granite you can be a perfectly fine tank, you won’t be in contention for toughest thing ever but the situations that call for that level of survivability border on nonexistent (possibly ARE even.) However, while your recharge and damage are back to normal, you still have a mobility penalty. Rooted is your mez protection toggle and it comes with mobility limitations.

 

If it fits your concept and you like the aesthetics/feel of the sets go for it! You’ll be a little clunky on movement (teleport is the only travel power that plays nice with stone armor) but it’s not like you’ll be a detriment to your teams.

 

Honestly, while I acknowledge Stone-/Granite as the Biggest Kid On The Block, it's downsides REALLY (REALLY REALLY) don't mesh well with the speed of the modern incarnation of the game.

In fact, with parties becoming ever tougher, it's possible to just leave the Stoner behind holding their...*AHEM* "stalactite".

I find that about as "fun" as full-body exfoliation with a belt sander and 10-grit sandpaper...