Need Help Choosing ATO

[Saikochoro]

Question on the scrapper ATOs.

 

Basic question is which set to get. I dont have enough influence to get both sets. I can probably get one full set and the single proc crit buff IO of the other. 

 

Eventually I may have enough to get both, but for now I can only get one.  So the question is, which one should I get having to choose between the two?

 

It seems that the scrapper strike set bonus is pretty nice with the + recharge. In reading a few other threads it’s seems like critical strikes might be the way to go though. 

 

I plan to put them in either an MA/bio or a Dual Blades/bio scrapper. 

 

Which power would you slot them in? I’m guessing the critical strikes one is a bit more picky in regards to where to slot it. I was thinking EC if I put them in MA. Not sure about dual blades though. 

 

Any advice would be welcome. 

 

Thank!

[Uun]

As a complete set, I think Critical Strikes is slightly better than Scrapper's Strike. Both have the same recharge buff, one getting it at 5 slots and the other at 6, but Critical has a substantial accuracy buff. Ultimately you're going to want both and getting the influence isn't that hard. Be patient in bidding - put in lowish bids and let them sit for a day or two. 

 

I wouldn't put the Critical proc in EC. The critical bonus effects the next attack (or two) you use, not the one it's slotted in. I've got it in Cobra Strike on my MA/Inv and Ground Zero on my Rad/Rad. There's some complicated math based on recharge rates that determines how often it goes off (see link). With Ground Zero on a long recharge, there's a 100% chance for it to proc every time I use it. 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cityofheroes/comments/c5ub58/all_about_ppm_procs_per_minute/

 

[Erydanus]

I have the chance of 50% bonus crit chance proc in my dual blades [Ablative Strike] power. I full slotted the Critical Strikes set, so overall it's probably more recharge than is great for proccing, but it DOES fire up when I'm using the move and the next attack is usually a combo finisher, or else I'm starting a combo chain - or if the situation warrants it just jumping to my tier 9 instead of doing a combo if CRITICAL STRIKES! lights up my screen.

 

If you're short on money to buy both sets, just run some task forces, take all your merits and buy Enhancement Boosters, then sell them at market rate on the auction house (typically 1.5 mil each). 100 merits -> 20 boosters -> 30 million influence -> about 3 scrapper enhancements (if they're going for 10 mil, almost 4 if you bid low and get lucky).  And that's the simple way to make money - you could also do stuff with flipping booster packs or enhancements for more profit. But what I just outlined is very reliable.

 

By the way if you go with Scrapper's Strike, splitting it into 2 groups of 3 to double up the 3 part bonus (which is defense) is often popular; will vary depending on your powerset combo and playstyle though!

Edited February 6, 2020 by Erydanus
wrote down the wrong power

[Duck-Smokes-Quack]

On 2/4/2020 at 4:17 PM, Uun said:

I wouldn't put the Critical proc in EC.

 

Right the Critcial proc is the active one right?


But the other set (Scrapper Strike?) that one is passive right? Its not a proc its just a permenant bonus? I have slotted that one in EC since I only use EC for AoE situations and never for ST

[Erydanus]

Yeah the passive one can go anywhere. What I like to do is stick it and 2 more pieces of that set in the Tier 1 or 2 attack and then use the other 3 pieces to frankenslot one of the good heavy hitters later in the build. That gets you double of the sweet defense bonus, and lets you have 3 strong pieces to tweak the enhancement numbers in a later power. (For instance if you have a Tier 8 cone and the PBAoE sets don't mesh well with its numbers...)

 

[Saikochoro]

Thank you all for the replies. I went ahead and got the critical strikes ATOs. 
 

I also just discovered the smoke and mirrors merit farming the other day. So, I’ve been doing that to get some inf to buy the other set.