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Hello fellow heroes and villains

 

Can any one of you please supply me the strongest possible build for spines/fire? Price isn't an issue, I want to work towards something.

 

EDIT: For AE farming ūüėĄ

 

Thank you everyone ! ūüėĄ

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The strongest possible build is one that maximizes recharge, while hitting the minimums for fire defense and resistance. Your end is covered by ageless, and Musculature is usually the best choice because it also increases your judgment damage. If you won't do other content, you can use stealth to get more LoTG mules.
 

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Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(27), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(45), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(11), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), GldArm-3defTpProc(13), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(42)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(3), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(5), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-Heal(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(15)
Level 6: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36)
Level 12: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(17), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(25), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 18: Quills -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(21), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Obl-Acc/Rchg(23), Erd-%Dam(37)
Level 20: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Temperature Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 24: Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Spine Burst -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Arm-Dmg(34), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-%Dam(37)
Level 28: Burn -- SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(31)
Level 30: Tough -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(37), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(39)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(33), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(33), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(34), PrfZng-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 38: Electrifying Fences -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(40), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(40), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(40), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 41: Mu Lightning -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Dcm-Build%(46)
Level 44: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Ann-ResDeb%(50)
Level 49: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
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Some people say that you don't need to use fences, but it actually fits in between all your other attacks fairly well.

 

Ball-Fences-Burn-Throw-Burst repeat

 

I usually try to shove throw spines in as much as I can but it's annoying to aim a cone for some people.

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Something I want to work towards is this; asinine crazy spines/fire/fire build from a guy who crunches numbers to the decimal point on Indomitable.   All enhancements are boosted +5 (not a huge difference even without, defense is like .25% less), massive amount of recharge at 232%, endurance recovery, and what ever I am missing to mention.  His SS/Fire/Fire is pretty nice as well, easy and dumb down with a few clicks but very effective and want to work on the Spines/Fire next for a change of pace sometimes.

 

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Spines Fire Revised: Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Lunge    
 (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
 (5) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (7) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
 (23) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
 (43) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 1:    Fire Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (3) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (3) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
 (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (15) Aegis - Resistance
 (50) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)


Level 2:    Blazing Aura    
 (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
 (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
 (25) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
 (25) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (27) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)


Level 4:    Healing Flames    
 (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
 (5) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
 (7) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
 (9) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
 (9) Panacea - Heal


Level 6:    Spine Burst    
 (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
 (29) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
 (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (37) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown


Level 8:    Build Up    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (11) Recharge Reduction IO
 (11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 10:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
 (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
 (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed


Level 12:    Super Jump    
 (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)


Level 14:    Boxing    
 (A) Accuracy IO


Level 16:    Plasma Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (17) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (19) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
 (19) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (21) Aegis - Resistance


Level 18:    Quills    
 (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
 (21) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
 (23) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage


Level 20:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 22:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (34) Aegis - Resistance
 (43) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 24:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
 (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
 (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed


Level 26:    Ripper    
 (A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
 (31) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (31) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
 (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
 (33) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (42) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge


Level 28:    Burn    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (29) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (31) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (42) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (42) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (48) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 30:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed


Level 32:    Throw Spines    
 (A) Ragnarok - Damage
 (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
 (36) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (39) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
 (39) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
 (43) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 35:    Fiery Embrace    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (46) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 38:    Char    
 (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold
 (40) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge
 (40) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
 (40) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge
 (50) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold


Level 41:    Melt Armor    
 (A) Accuracy IO
 (50) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 44:    Fire Ball    
 (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
 (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
 (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize


Level 47:    Assault    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 49:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed


Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Prestige Power Dash    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Prestige Power Slide    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Prestige Power Quick    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Prestige Power Rush    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Prestige Power Surge    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty


Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty


Level 4:    Ninja Run    
Level 2:    Swift    
 (A) Run Speed IO


Level 2:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance


Level 2:    Hurdle    
 (A) Jumping IO


Level 2:    Stamina    
 (A) Endurance Modification IO


Level 50:    Musculature Core Paragon    
Level 50:    Ageless Core Epiphany    
Level 50:    Degenerative Core Flawless Interface    
Level 50:    Assault Radial Embodiment    
Level 50:    Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally    
Level 50:    Pyronic Core Final Judgement    
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Don't ask me how or why, its just very impressive what he does.

Edited by Outrider_01

"Farming is just more fun in my opinion, beating up hordes of angry cosplayers...."  - Coyotedancer

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This is the route I went. Tried to get a good balance of Fire defense and +recharge bonuses. The Leadership pool is great, Tactics makes all the difference in the world when spamming the less accurate AoE attacks on +4 mobs. I would recommend taking it. There's not a need for travel powers when AE farming. This build is strictly for AE farming. I made my Brute, spawned in Atlas Park, and he's never left. Not even once. I even named him 'Generic Farmer' hit the randomize button once in the costume creator (he has the full Insect Armor lol) and never looked back. On average, this build clears the Big Dawg fire map in 4 minutes or less. My best time is 3:39, but that's only when I pay attention, which I don't do often when I'm farming because.... farming. 

 

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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Barb Swipe -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(50)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(7), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(37), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(40), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), ScrDrv-Dam%(43), HO:Nucle(45)
Level 4: Spine Burst -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 8: Healing Flames -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(9), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(11), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(13), Prv-Absorb%(15)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(11)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(15)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(17), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 18: Quills -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(37), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(37)
Level 20: Consume -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(21), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(21), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(23), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(23), MckBrt-Rchg(36)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(25), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 28: Burn -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Arm-Acc/Rchg(29), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Arm-Dam%(33), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(33)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(33), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(34), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), PstBls-Dam%(34), ImpSwf-Dam%(48)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Electrifying Fences -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(40), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(40)
Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(42), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Rgn-Knock%(43), Ann-ResDeb%(48)
Level 44: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(48), GssSynFr--Build%(50)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(3), PrfShf-End%(3)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
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Things to note. Assault isn't 'really' needed. But it is a damage boost, and even a measly 10% goes a long way when you are (hopefully) surrounded by mobs and spamming AoE. Also, when and if I get my Ageless to T4, you could drop some of the slots in Health and Stamina since you shouldn't have end problems.  My Ageless is not T4, so there is some downtime. Which means I do have to be aware of end management. It's not a huge issue, even at +4 when all my toggles drop I still don't die. Every attack outside of T1 is fully slotted. The T1 is only used when a boss is left standing, but normally I just pull that boss to the next mob, your T1 still comes in handy though. I would also recommend not putting the Superior Frozen Blast set in a power that does NOT immobilize. You want to control when the mobs get locked down, hence why I put it in Electrifying Fences, so I can control when I want mobs to not huddle around me, which is never. I use Ball Lightning to herd mobs and get aggro, then use Fences only when I am surrounded. It pains me to say it, but Ripper and Impale are not needed when farming. Take Ripper when leveling up, slot it with a Force Feedback chance for +recharge proc. It helps a lot when power leveling yourself. (You can 100% do that by the way, I made my Brute and got him to level 50 by myself in about 4-5 hours give or take) But once you hit 50 and get a full IO build, Ripper is just too slow for a pure farming build. 

 

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head in regards to a Spines/Fire build and what to do/what not to do. Cheers!

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On 2/7/2020 at 6:44 PM, cazden121 said:

Things to note. Assault isn't 'really' needed. But it is a damage boost, and even a measly 10% goes a long way when you are (hopefully) surrounded by mobs and spamming AoE. Also, when and if I get my Ageless to T4, you could drop some of the slots in Health and Stamina since you shouldn't have end problems.  My Ageless is not T4, so there is some downtime. Which means I do have to be aware of end management. It's not a huge issue, even at +4 when all my toggles drop I still don't die. Every attack outside of T1 is fully slotted. The T1 is only used when a boss is left standing, but normally I just pull that boss to the next mob, your T1 still comes in handy though. I would also recommend not putting the Superior Frozen Blast set in a power that does NOT immobilize. You want to control when the mobs get locked down, hence why I put it in Electrifying Fences, so I can control when I want mobs to not huddle around me, which is never. I use Ball Lightning to herd mobs and get aggro, then use Fences only when I am surrounded. It pains me to say it, but Ripper and Impale are not needed when farming. Take Ripper when leveling up, slot it with a Force Feedback chance for +recharge proc. It helps a lot when power leveling yourself. (You can 100% do that by the way, I made my Brute and got him to level 50 by myself in about 4-5 hours give or take) But once you hit 50 and get a full IO build, Ripper is just too slow for a pure farming build. 

 

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head in regards to a Spines/Fire build and what to do/what not to do. Cheers!

 

Thank you so much, Will also give this a try ūüėĄ

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