Where is our bane ?

[KaizenSoze]

So, I tried to make the best mace only bane I could on the beta server.

 

Def, resists, damage, very expensive. I'll post the build in a separate thread. There is always room for improvement.

 

I cannot solo 4x8 carnies or arachnos, period. Also, struggled against 3x8 arachnos.

 

Comparing to my Blood Widow, it's all about the PBAOE.

 

My bane cannot delete the minions and lts quickly enough. She loses too much time lining up for crowd control.

 

My widow just aim->wail->spin or tornado. Disruptor Blast isn't bad for CC and damge, but the recharge is to long.

 

Options would be to load up Mace Beam Blast and use that to keep mobs down.

 

If I can get the mobs grouped up nicely, the bane does really deals out damage.

Edited September 11, 2020 by KaizenSoze

[kiramon]

8 hours ago, KaizenSoze said:

So, I tried to make the best mace only bane I could on the beta server.

 

Def, resists, damage, very expensive. I'll post the build in a separate thread. There is always room for improvement.

 

I cannot solo 4x8 carnies or arachnos, period. Also, struggled against 3x8 arachnos.

 

Comparing to my Blood Widow, it's all about the PBAOE.

 

My bane cannot delete the minions and lts quickly enough. She loses too much time lining up for crowd control.

 

My widow just aim->wail->spin or tornado. Disruptor Blast isn't bad for CC and damge, but the recharge is to long.

 

Options would be to load up Mace Beam Blast and use that to keep mobs down.

 

If I can get the mobs grouped up nicely, the bane does really deals out damage.

 

Meanwhile, i did a nightwidow build on the test server. It just solos everything. It's at 47-78% defense for EVERYTHING with perma Mind Link xD

 

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Level 50 Magic Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprSpdBit-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(9)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Combat Training: Offensive -- Acc-I(A)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 8: Follow Up -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Dam%(39)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 12: Spin -- SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDmnofA-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(17)
Level 14: Lunge -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(19), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mk'Bit-Dam%(27)
Level 16: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Slash -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(34), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Hct-Dam%(36), TchofDth-Dam%(36)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(21), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(21), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(23), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(23), GssSynFr--Build%(25)
Level 22: Mask Presence -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(48), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Rct-Def/EndRdx(50), Rct-Def/Rchg(50), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 26: Mind Link -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(29), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(29), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Eviscerate -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dam%(31), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Obl-%Dam(34)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33), GldArm-End/Res(46), StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(46)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Foresight -- Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Ags-Psi/Status(39), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(42), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(42), Ags-ResDam(43), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Tactical Training: Vengeance -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning 
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(3), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(45), Mrc-Heal(45)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(3), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(45), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(46)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 53.54 Toxic Damage (12% chance, CancelOnMiss)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 11.31% Defense(Smashing)
• 11.31% Defense(Lethal)
• 11.94% Defense(Fire)
• 11.94% Defense(Cold)
• 11% Defense(Energy)
• 11% Defense(Negative)
• 6% Defense(Psionic)
• 16.63% Defense(Melee)
• 16% Defense(Ranged)
• 13.19% Defense(AoE)
• 3.6% Max End
• 63% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 6.25% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount)
• 76.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 22.5% SpeedFlying
• 261 HP (24.37%) HitPoints
• 22.5% JumpHeight
• 22.5% SpeedJumping
• MezResist(Confused) 91.25%
• MezResist(Held) 91.25%
• MezResist(Immobilized) 91.25%
• MezResist(Sleep) 91.25%
• MezResist(Stunned) 91.25%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 91.25%
• MezResist(Teleport) 100% (20% chance)
• 19.5% (0.34 End/sec) Recovery
• 36% (1.93 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 23.75% Resistance(Smashing)
• 23.75% Resistance(Lethal)
• 23% Resistance(Fire)
• 23% Resistance(Cold)
• 10.25% Resistance(Energy)
• 10.25% Resistance(Negative)
• 29.75% Resistance(Toxic)
• 34.75% Resistance(Psionic)
• 22.5% SpeedRunning

 

Edited September 12, 2020 by kiramon

[KaizenSoze]

I tried kiramon's night widow build out. It's laughable how much easier it is to solo with it than my bane builds.

 

 

[Omega-202]

33 minutes ago, KaizenSoze said:

I tried kiramon's night widow build out. It's laughable how much easier it is to solo with it than my bane builds.

Yeah, therein lies the problem.  Widows do the VEAT stealth melee thing better than Banes.  Crabs do the VEAT pet AoE steamroller better than Banes.  Forts do the VEAT ranged DPS/CC role WAAAY better than Banes.  Crabs do VEAT psuedo-tanking better than Banes.

 

One of the other 3 VEAT branches beats Banes in basically everything.  So in the end, Banes just bring...style?  

[KaizenSoze]

I found the General Discusson thread on Soliders. Just food for thought.

 

 

[Omega-202]

1 hour ago, KaizenSoze said:

I found the General Discusson thread on Soliders. Just food for thought.

 

 

That thread was a dumpster fire.  People claiming that Crabs do Defender level damage should have their posting privileges revoked.  

[TheSpiritFox]

My bane is my second spec. I made it a crab and then decided to drop a second about a billion on the most expensive single target bane build. Yeah, it does less overall damage than the crab by alot, but goddamn if it doesn't chew down single targets faster than the crab could ever dream of. 

 

I set up my macros and have it set up so I can lock my trays and switch. Costs me recharges. If I'm below 45 that means it costs me basically nothing to switch back and forth, at 45 and up content I have to think about losing lore pet cooldowns and that's about it. Means I almost never get to use TT or ATT on teh character lol, but ehh I'll take that loss. 

[kiramon]

On 9/22/2020 at 3:50 PM, KaizenSoze said:

I tried kiramon's night widow build out. It's laughable how much easier it is to solo with it than my bane builds.

 

 

I know right?