Dark armor/fire skippable powers

muggtonp · March 28, 2020

Have a theme in mind, thinking of rolling the above. I've never played either of these power sets so I'm not sure what I can afford to skip in the primary and secondary; any advice would be appreciated.

I do know it's gonna be pretty costly to IO properly.

Caulderone · March 28, 2020

This is going to be arguable based on personal preference.

Dark Armor: Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Soul Transfer

Fire Melee: Breath of Fire, Greater Fire Sword, Taunt (if Scranker, not if main tanking), Build Up (for some, I want it)

Psyonico · March 30, 2020

I'm going to argue that you want either Oppressive Gloom or Cloak of Fear (If not both)

Oppressive Gloom is only mag 2 but it's really cheap to run (you can get away with 1 slotting it)

Cloak of Fear is mag 3, but it's really expensive to run

I like Breath of Fire, Take either Incinerate or Greater Fire Sword, you don't need both, they do the same DPS and you'll have enough of an attack chain already that you'll be good.

Taunt... you're a tank, take it.

JayboH · March 30, 2020

Skipping greater fire sword? why

Gottagobro · April 1, 2020

This is my Dark/Fire build. It's actually insane how much ST and AoE damage you can do with procs on the hard hitting abilities. If you're fighting a pack of 54's, most of the time only the bosses remain after your 3 AoE's go off.

With 90% res to most damage and a full HP heal every 8 seconds, all 3 of the last abilities in Dark Armor are not at all worth taking IMO.

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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1:   Death Shroud           Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Rchg(5), Arm-Dmg(5)
Level 1:   Scorch               SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2:   Dark Embrace           ResDam-I(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17)
Level 4:   Combustion           Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(19), Obl-%Dam(21), PrfZng-Dam%(21), ScrDrv-Dam%(23), Erd-%Dam(23)
Level 6:   Obsidian Shield           ResDam-I(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(25)
Level 8:   Murky Cloud           ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(25)
Level 10:   Combat Jumping           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12:   Cloak of Darkness       LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(27), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), Rct-ResDam%(29), Ksm-ToHit+(29)
Level 14:   Boxing               AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(31), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(31), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(31), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(33)
Level 16:   Tough               StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(33), ResDam-I(33)
Level 18:   Weave               LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 20:   Build Up           GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 22:   Hasten               RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 24:   Maneuvers           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26:   Dark Regeneration       Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Prv-Heal/Rchg(36), Prv-Heal(37)
Level 28:   Fire Sword Circle       Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(37), PrfZng-Dam%(37), Erd-%Dam(39), Arm-Dam%(39), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(39)
Level 30:   Tactics               ToHit-I(A)
Level 32:   Taunt               Taunt-I(A)
Level 35:   Super Speed           BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(40)
Level 38:   Greater Fire Sword       Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40), PrfZng-Dam%(42), Hct-Dam%(42), GldStr-%Dam(42)
Level 41:   Incinerate           Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(43), TchofDth-Dam%(43), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), GldStr-%Dam(45), PrfZng-Dam%(45)
Level 44:   Dark Obliteration       Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(45), JvlVll-Dam%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), CldSns-%Dam(48)
Level 47:   Soul Tentacles           GrvAnc-Immob(A), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(48), GrvAnc-Hold%(48), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(50), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(50)
Level 49:   Vengeance           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1:   Brawl               Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Hct-Acc/Rchg(13), Hct-Dmg(13), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 1:   Gauntlet
Level 1:   Prestige Power Dash       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Slide       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Quick       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Rush       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Surge       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Sprint               Run-I(A)
Level 2:   Rest               Empty(A)
Level 4:   Ninja Run
Level 2:   Swift               Run-I(A)
Level 2:   Health               Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 2:   Hurdle               Jump-I(A)
Level 2:   Stamina               PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50:   Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 0:   Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0:   Portal Jockey
Level 0:   Task Force Commander
Level 50:   Ageless Core Epiphany
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Pzn · April 2, 2020

23 hours ago, Gottagobro said:

This is my Dark/Fire build. It's actually insane how much ST and AoE damage you can do with procs on the hard hitting abilities. If you're fighting a pack of 54's, most of the time only the bosses remain after your 3 AoE's go off.

With 90% res to most damage and a full HP heal every 8 seconds, all 3 of the last abilities in Dark Armor are not at all worth taking IMO.

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:   Death Shroud           Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Rchg(5), Arm-Dmg(5)
Level 1:   Scorch               SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2:   Dark Embrace           ResDam-I(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17)
Level 4:   Combustion           Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(19), Obl-%Dam(21), PrfZng-Dam%(21), ScrDrv-Dam%(23), Erd-%Dam(23)
Level 6:   Obsidian Shield           ResDam-I(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(25)
Level 8:   Murky Cloud           ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(25)
Level 10:   Combat Jumping           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12:   Cloak of Darkness       LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(27), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), Rct-ResDam%(29), Ksm-ToHit+(29)
Level 14:   Boxing               AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(31), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(31), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(31), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(33)
Level 16:   Tough               StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(33), ResDam-I(33)
Level 18:   Weave               LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 20:   Build Up           GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 22:   Hasten               RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 24:   Maneuvers           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26:   Dark Regeneration       Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Prv-Heal/Rchg(36), Prv-Heal(37)
Level 28:   Fire Sword Circle       Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(37), PrfZng-Dam%(37), Erd-%Dam(39), Arm-Dam%(39), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(39)
Level 30:   Tactics               ToHit-I(A)
Level 32:   Taunt               Taunt-I(A)
Level 35:   Super Speed           BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(40)
Level 38:   Greater Fire Sword       Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40), PrfZng-Dam%(42), Hct-Dam%(42), GldStr-%Dam(42)
Level 41:   Incinerate           Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(43), TchofDth-Dam%(43), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), GldStr-%Dam(45), PrfZng-Dam%(45)
Level 44:   Dark Obliteration       Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(45), JvlVll-Dam%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), CldSns-%Dam(48)
Level 47:   Soul Tentacles           GrvAnc-Immob(A), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(48), GrvAnc-Hold%(48), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(50), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(50)
Level 49:   Vengeance           LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1:   Brawl               Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Hct-Acc/Rchg(13), Hct-Dmg(13), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 1:   Gauntlet
Level 1:   Prestige Power Dash       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Slide       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Quick       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Rush       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Prestige Power Surge       Empty(A)
Level 1:   Sprint               Run-I(A)
Level 2:   Rest               Empty(A)
Level 4:   Ninja Run
Level 2:   Swift               Run-I(A)
Level 2:   Health               Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 2:   Hurdle               Jump-I(A)
Level 2:   Stamina               PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50:   Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 0:   Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0:   Portal Jockey
Level 0:   Task Force Commander
Level 50:   Ageless Core Epiphany
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This is my build dude. You just copied it after I posted it in your thread and changed it slightly. I'm glad you like it, but don't try to pass it off as your creation if you are just going to make it slightly worse. Dropping gloom is really bad for your DPS. Here's the original build:

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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Arm-Acc/Rchg(5), Arm-Dmg(5)
Level 1: Scorch -- SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(7), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(11)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17)
Level 4: Combustion -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(17), ScrDrv-Dam%(19), Erd-%Dam(19), Obl-%Dam(21), PrfZng-Dam%(21)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- ResDam-I(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23)
Level 8: Murky Cloud -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(23)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(27), Ksm-ToHit+(27)
Level 14: Boxing -- AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(29), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(31), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(31)
Level 16: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(33), ResDam-I(50)
Level 18: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(31)
Level 20: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Dark Regeneration -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), Erd-%Dam(33), Obl-%Dam(34), ThfofEss-+End%(34), TchoftheN-%Dam(34), PrfZng-Dam%(36)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(36), PrfZng-Dam%(36), Erd-%Dam(37), Arm-Dam%(37), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(37)
Level 30: Tactics -- ToHit-I(A)
Level 32: Taunt -- Taunt-I(A)
Level 35: Incinerate -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(39), Mk'Bit-Dam%(39), TchofDth-Dam%(39), PrfZng-Dam%(40), GldStr-%Dam(40)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(40), TchofDth-Dam%(42), PrfZng-Dam%(42), Hct-Dam%(42), GldStr-%Dam(43)
Level 41: Gloom -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(43), CldSns-%Dam(43), GldJvl-Dam%(45), Apc-Dam%(45)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(45), JvlVll-Dam%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), CldSns-%Dam(48)
Level 47: Soul Tentacles -- GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(A), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(48), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(48), GrvAnc-Immob(50), GrvAnc-Hold%(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Hct-Acc/Rchg(13), Hct-Dmg(13), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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Edited April 2, 2020 by josh1622

Gottagobro · April 2, 2020

I don't care about taking credit for the build. What I meant by "my build" was the build I am using on the character.

Next time I'll make sure to credit you.

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