mrcooper Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) I played Spines/Regen back in the day and absolutely LOVED regen. I know it was hit with the nerf bat pretty hard, but is it even still playable? From what I am seeing, willpower has better regen than ... regeneration. I know it's click heavy, and i'm ok with that. Any tips/advice on my build? It's for endgame content, not farming , level 50 Rad/Regen brute. I have not messed with mids for many years and have just started playing here, im so excited to be able to play the game again. I am fully aware that there are better powersets out there, but I love the nostalgia feeling i get when playing regen. http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1454&c=682&a=1364&f=HEX&dc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illain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation BrutePrimary Power Set: Radiation MeleeSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Radioactive Smash (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (7) Analyze Weakness - Chance for +ToHit Level 1: Fast Healing (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (45) Preventive Medicine - Heal (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 2: Reconstruction (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (43) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (43) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (45) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (45) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 4: Quick Recovery (A) Endurance Modification IO (7) Endurance Modification IO (15) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self Level 6: Super Jump (A) Jumping IO Level 8: Boxing (A) Pounding Slugfest - Disorient Bonus (9) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Endurance (9) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage (11) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (11) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (13) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Dull Pain (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance (34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge (36) Doctored Wounds - Recharge (37) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (50) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (13) Shield Wall - Defense (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (40) Shield Wall - Endurance/Recharge (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 14: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 16: Integration (A) Panacea - Heal (17) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (17) Panacea - Heal/Recharge Level 18: Irradiated Ground (A) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff (19) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff (19) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (23) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 20: Resilience (A) Aegis - Resistance (42) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (42) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (42) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge (43) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection Level 22: Tough (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (27) Aegis - Resistance (27) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (36) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 26: Devastating Blow (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (29) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (29) Hecatomb - Damage (31) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge Level 28: Instant Healing (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (39) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Atom Smasher (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage (33) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus Level 35: Fusion (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff Level 38: Superior Conditioning (A) Endurance Modification IO Level 41: Taunt (A) Triumphant Insult - Chance to Disorient Level 44: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 47: Moment of Glory (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (48) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (48) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge (48) Aegis - Resistance Level 49: Physical Perfection (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (50) Numina's Convalesence - Heal Level 1: Brawl (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint Edited April 8, 2020 by mrcooper
mrcooper Posted April 9, 2020 Author Posted April 9, 2020 @Werner I sent you a message, i heard you are quite the aficionado to seek advice/tips from.
Werner Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 It's been a long time since I've played or built a Regen, but unless something has changed, what you build for is recharge, recharge, and recharge. Think you have enough recharge? Nope. More recharge. And while you're at it, somehow pick up a lot of hit points and resists. Some defense wouldn't hurt either. Anyway, I guess I need to download the "unofficial" Mids' update, as I can't load in your build.
mrcooper Posted April 9, 2020 Author Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Werner said: It's been a long time since I've played or built a Regen, but unless something has changed, what you build for is recharge, recharge, and recharge. Think you have enough recharge? Nope. More recharge. And while you're at it, somehow pick up a lot of hit points and resists. Some defense wouldn't hurt either. Anyway, I guess I need to download the "unofficial" Mids' update, as I can't load in your build. I really appreciate your help. Im sure that build is terrible by any standards that i have.
Krazie Ivan Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 i'll edit/paste things i've recently posted about building a /Regen;from a few thousand hrs on /Regen chars, the single biggest suggestion i can make if you're looking for durability is; do not bother enhancing standing Regen through Enh or Bonuses, just the clicks (IH, DP ...maybe some Int & Recon love). instead, hit melee Def softcap & attempt 150+Rech, then add what you can in Resists. it's going to feel counter-intuitive, until you play it with a strong layered build a while.Regen loves +Def as much as it thrives on +Rech, but the set also lacks any Debuff Res (take Ageless?). because chasing +Def & +Rech to their limits can have diminishing returns, and hitting all softcaps on any Regen char will gut the rest of the build, just take the biggest bonuses & then go looking to add easy Res (S/L yes, but don't neglect E/N ...F/C will come from Purps & WOs). a +Res based build on a Regen doesn't work out (i tried), but adding solid/well-rounded Res does help if you have good Def & Rech already. look at Meld (for Scraps) & alternating Rune & Melee Core to stay near Res caps. Regen is near the bottom these days, but it can still shine ...it's just very very hard play-wise & to build. 1
Nemu Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 If you make a regen brute, take whirlwind. I am not joking. You can't go ez mode like scrappers or stalkers by getting shadowmeld and alternating between that and MOG. So you look elsewhere for survival. Whirlwind helps. Fortunately for regen it can handle the end sink. Slows suck, especially for regen. Don't skimp on slow resistance. Preach the Gospel of SPIN! Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural BrutePrimary Power Set: Radiation MeleeSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Radioactive Smash -- SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), HO:Nucle(33)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(9)Level 2: Reconstruction -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(3), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(5), Pnc-Heal(5)Level 4: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(15), SynSck-EndMod(17), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(17), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(42), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(45)Level 6: Super Speed -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 8: Fusion -- RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(A), RctRtc-ToHit(9)Level 10: Radiation Siphon -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(11), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(13)Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)Level 16: Integration -- Prv-Absorb%(A)Level 18: Whirlwind -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(19), EndRdx-I(19)Level 20: Irradiated Ground -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(23), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(34)Level 22: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(39), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 24: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27)Level 26: Devastating Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(37), Hct-Dam%(40)Level 28: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(29), Rct-Def/EndRdx(29), Rct-ResDam%(31)Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def(31), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33)Level 32: Atom Smasher -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Rchg(36), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Arm-Dam%(37), AchHee-ResDeb%(37)Level 35: Resilience -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(43), UnbGrd-Max HP%(45)Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-Pcptn(42), HO:Cyto(42)Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech(45), SynSck-EndMod(46), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(46), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(46), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(50)Level 47: Dull Pain -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(48), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(48), Pnc-Heal(50)Level 49: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: FuryLevel 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)------------ Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting Jezebel Delias Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster I am the Inner Circle!
mrcooper Posted April 9, 2020 Author Posted April 9, 2020 This is very helpful guys, i greatly appreciate it. I was building more towards resist and trying to focus on regeneration with sets.
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