Grav/Pain Build

[akira0238]

Finally got my Grav/Pain to 50 a little while back.. (shut up, she's fun to play, dammit!) Having previously never leveled a troller past the mid 20s I have ZERO idea how to slot her as I've been using regular IOs during leveling.. Also, I can't find much of ANYTHING for /pain on the boards on reddit or Discord..  for now I'm just trying to figure out a budget/basic build for 50/incarnate stuff.. here's my first incomplete and laughably terrible shot at it.. (yes I know my s/l is way past cap 😑) suggestions/advice welcome and appreciated!  

 

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Psystormer: Level 50 Science Controller
Primary Power Set: Gravity Control
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lift

• (A) Force Feedback - Damage/Knockback
• (3) Force Feedback - Accuracy/Knockback
• (3) Force Feedback - Recharge/Endurance
• (5) Force Feedback - Recharge/Knockback
• (5) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
• (7) Force Feedback - Damage/Endurance/Knockback
  

Level 1: Nullify Pain

• (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
• (7) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
• (9) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge
• (9) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
• (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
• (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
  

Level 2: Soothe

• (A) Healing IO
• (13) Healing IO
• (13) Healing IO
  

Level 4: Gravity Distortion

• (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration
• (17) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge
• (17) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
• (19) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance
• (19) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge
• (21) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage
  

Level 6: Propel

• (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
• (21) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (23) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
• (23) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
• (25) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (25) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  

Level 8: Crushing Field

• (A) Trap of the Hunter - Immobilize/Accuracy
• (27) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Endurance
• (27) Trap of the Hunter - Endurance/Immobilize
• (29) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Recharge
• (29) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
• (31) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  

Level 10: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (31) Recharge Reduction IO
• (31) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 12: Super Jump

• (A) Jumping IO
  

Level 14: Maneuvers

• (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
• (33) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
• (33) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
• (33) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
• (34) Red Fortune - Defense
• (34) Red Fortune - Endurance
  

Level 16: Assault

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 18: Gravity Distortion Field

• (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
• (34) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge
• (36) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
• (36) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold
• (36) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
• (37) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
  

Level 20: Soothing Aura

• (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
• (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal
• (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
• (39) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  

Level 22: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 24: Boxing

• (A) Empty
  

Level 26: Tough

• (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
• (39) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
• (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
• (40) Aegis - Resistance
• (40) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• (40) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance
  

Level 28: World of Pain

• (A) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
• (42) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
• (42) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
• (42) Aegis - Resistance
• (43) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
• (43) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
  

Level 30: Weave

• (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
• (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  

Level 32: Singularity

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (45) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
• (45) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
• (45) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
• (46) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
• (46) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 35: Anguishing Cry

• (A) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
• (46) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
• (47) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (47) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
  

Level 38: Painbringer

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 41: Indomitable Will

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 44: Mind Over Body

• (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
• (48) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  

Level 47: Conduit of Pain

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 49: Psionic Tornado

• (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
• (49) Force Feedback - Damage/Knockback
• (49) Force Feedback - Accuracy/Knockback
• (50) Force Feedback - Damage/Endurance/Knockback
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Containment 

Level 1: Sprint

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[akira0238]

10 hours ago, 5099y_74c05 said:

Here is my cut. I'm sure I violated your budget constraints and will probably need minor fixes here and there.

Caps Ranged DEF, S/L RES drops to 67.5%. Above NET +2EPS, and give you Wormhole (I don't recommend skipping it). Buy a hover board to fly. Also puts you closer to perma Hasten and allows you to switch to Spiritual Alpha:

It's still seems pretty reasonable on influence to me.. no added purple sets and only a couple lotg or pvp global procs, which makes sense. 

1- Ok.. so wormhole.. always seemed like we were moving too fast in x8+4 teams to utilize it, but I'm sure I'm thinking about it wrong.. 

2- Also, another thing.. looking at the hold and immob purple sets.. they're sort of.. underwhelming?  Or am I missing something there?  10% recharge is pretty nice, but that's about it.. 

3- I get ranged being the primary thing here, of course, but is AOE def not an issue or is it too much to try to boost that (or it winds up being at the expense of ranged)?

4- Why the change from Agility to Spiritual?

 

Thank you for the help and advice!

Edited March 10, 2021 by akira0238

[Carnifax]

Don't skip Wormhole. It's one of the few powers where at endgame you can lob another spawn on top of Spawn #1. In other words you can use it to keep feeding the beast, unlike most other AOE controls at endgame where you'd be hard pressed to notice you used it. 

 

Just warn PuGs if you're doing it. Some people get scared by enemies dropping on their heads. 

Edited March 10, 2021 by Carnifax

[akira0238]

3 hours ago, 5099y_74c05 said:

1: IMO Wormhole is one of Grav/ signature powers. I realize the end game trivializes Controllers to a degree. My philosophy is: "It is better to have more control options". Note**: Thinking over the build I would probably look at a way to add the KB to KD PROC to Womhole; the scatter is problematic.

2: That is exactly right! The purple sets are usually very valuable for combos looking to optimize for global recharge; it was a rare commodity in the past. I think some of the newer sets have overshadowed these sets to a degree. Why? Many sets offer fifth slot +RECH while offering sixth slot +DEF as well. These are more valuable IMO. There is also a point of diminishing returns where more +RECH only brings marginal gains; global recharge has the most impact on extremely long charging powers.

3: You can build for AoE DEF. I think it is more difficult to build for while retaining a high global recharge. To be honest with you I haven't looked at AoE/F/C DEF Sets that offer +RECH as well. I think a Ranged/AoE DEF build will probably need to settle for something below softcap or give up global recharge.

4: Agility offers 45% End Mod, Rech 33% and DEF 20% vs Spiritual offers Rech 45%, Stun and Heal 33%.

 

Hope this helps to clarify some of my wacky design choices.

Best of luck!

I had already gotten to tier 4 with Agility, so I'll keep that for now and see how it goes.. I've used your recommendations as a template with some very minor changes for personal preference, but added Wormhole, etc.. so we'll see later tonight with the MSR or BAFs how we do.. again, thanks very much and I'll let you know how she rolls 😄

[Coyote]

3 hours ago, Carnifax said:

Just warn PuGs if you're doing it. Some people get scared by enemies dropping on their heads. 

 

Just to offer the opposite viewpoint: There isn't much more fun available than catapulting a spawn of mobs at an unprepared Blaster. Why minimize the fun factor by warning them? 😄😈