First attempt at Bane

[hakurr]

so i like to look at characters in mid's before i start playing them and this is my first attempt at a bane spider i want him to focus on melee style fighting. please let me know if this is good or bad and what you would recommend

 

 

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Level 50 Mutation Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pummel

• (A) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Recharge/Chance for -Dmg and Terrorize
• (42) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (42) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage
• (42) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Recharge
• (43) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (43) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 1: Wolf Spider Armor

• (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
• (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
• (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
• (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  

Level 2: Bash

• (A) Superior Spider's Bite - RechargeTime/Global Toxic
• (5) Superior Spider's Bite - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• (37) Superior Spider's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• (37) Superior Spider's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
• (40) Superior Spider's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
• (40) Superior Spider's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  

Level 4: Combat Training: Offensive

• (A) Accuracy IO
• (5) Accuracy IO
  

Level 6: Build Up

• (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
• (45) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
• (50) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
  

Level 8: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade

• (A) Aegis - Resistance
• (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
• (9) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
• (11) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
• (46) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers

• (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%
• (11) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
• (13) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
• (40) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge
• (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
  

Level 12: Pulverize

• (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold
• (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
• (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
• (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
• (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (37) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 14: Boxing

• (A) Empty
  

Level 16: Tough

• (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
• (17) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• (17) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
• (19) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
  

Level 18: Weave

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (19) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
• (21) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
• (21) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  

Level 20: Shatter

• (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
• (23) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
• (25) Hecatomb - Damage
• (31) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
• (34) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (36) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
  

Level 22: Tactical Training: Assault

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO
• (23) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 24: Tactical Training: Leadership

• (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
• (25) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  

Level 26: Cloaking Device

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (27) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
• (27) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
• (46) Karma - Knockback Protection
  

Level 28: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
• (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
• (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
  

Level 30: Assault

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO
• (31) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 32: Crowd Control

• (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
• (33) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
• (33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (34) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
  

Level 35: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (36) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 38: Combat Jumping

• (A) Red Fortune - Endurance
• (39) Red Fortune - Defense
• (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
• (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
• (46) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
• (50) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 41: Super Jump

• (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 44: Mental Training

• (A) Run Speed IO
• (45) Run Speed IO
  

Level 47: Combat Training: Defensive

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (48) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
• (48) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
• (48) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
  

Level 49: Super Speed

• (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Conditioning | Hidden 

Level 1: Sprint

 

 

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[Gulbasaur]

Hi!

 

You probably don't need two slots in TT:Accuracy unless you're specifically not slotting for accuracy anywhere else. I'd say the same for Mental Training.

 

TT:Leadership is a good place to put the extra slots - Gaussian's is a really good set to put in there. The +Build Up proc goes off at a higher rate on larger teams, because it has a chance to trigger on each teammate it affects, which means you get a passive damage and ToHit bonus from teaming.

 

I've never felt that VEATs need Tough and Weave; they're pretty solid out of the box and have high defence without much building, but how high is high is a matter of debate.  I beat up Giant Monsters and AV-tier mobs on my Fortunata without them.

 

Will you run into endurance problems running that many toggles? 

 

14 hours ago, hakurr said:

(A) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Recharge/Chance for -Dmg and Terrorize

Put this into an AoE attack - it procs often enough that the fear effect (which works like a short-term hold, it doesn't make them run away) is actually very useful.

[KaizenSoze]

@hakurr

 

Yes, two slots in TT:Offensive is unnecessary.

Two end red in TT:Assault is unnecessary, because TT:Assault is cheaper than Leadership assault.

Crowd Control and Shatter do not need -kb, they are knockdown only. Unless you're hitting lower level mobs.

 

If you are going to only melee attacks, then put Dominion into Crowd Control. And Touch of death into Pummel. You'll only lose a little melee def.

 

I will politely disagree with Gulbasaur. Banes do not get Widow scaling resists. I think tough is useful. Nice resists by the way.

 

The problem with pure melee banes are they lack good AOE. Not to say they are bad, they are decent.

 

If you were to add in Venom and Frag grenade, it will greatly improve your AOE and single target damage. You'll have to pay the gun-mace redraw tax sadly.

 

See bottom of thread for my Huntsbane build. It's not quite finished, but very close. It's a monster, but much more expensive than your build.

 

You can read this thread where I tried a bunch of different pure mace builds.

 

 

Huntsbane:

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Wasteland Shadow Mixed: Level 50 Magic Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Force of Will
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprSpdBit-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprSpdBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprSpdBit-Rchg/Global Toxic(7)
Level 1: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-Max HP%(11), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(13), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(15), Krm-ResKB(15)
Level 4: Wolf Spider Armor -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(23), GldArm-3defTpProc(23)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), GssSynFr--Build%(21)
Level 8: Mighty Leap -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(25), LucoftheG-Def(25)
Level 12: Venom Grenade -- SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDmnofA-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprDmnofA-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprDmnofA-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprDmnofA-Rchg/DmgFear%(31)
Level 14: Pulverize -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(31), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(33), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(33)
Level 16: Poisonous Ray -- Range-I(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Apc-Dam%(36)
Level 18: Frag Grenade -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), Rgn-Dmg(36), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(37), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(37), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 20: Shatter -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Acc/Rchg(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 22: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Cloaking Device -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 28: Surveillance -- AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 30: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(42), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Arm-Acc/Rchg(43), Arm-Dam%(43)
Level 35: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-Psi/Status(43), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Project Will -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(50), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Dcm-Build%(50)
Level 41: Unleash Potential -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def(46)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48)
Level 49: Combat Training: Offensive -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Conditioning | Hidden
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(19), PrfShf-End%(21)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Cardiac Radial Paragon
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[Gulbasaur]

On 3/19/2021 at 5:09 PM, KaizenSoze said:

I will politely disagree with Gulbasaur. Banes do not get Widow scaling resists. I think tough is useful. Nice resists by the way.

I'm a grumpy old sod who thinks that everyone plays it much too safe with their builds, but I accept that that's a relevant distinction. 

[tidge]

6 minutes ago, Gulbasaur said:

I'm a grumpy old sod who thinks that everyone plays it much too safe with their builds, but I accept that that's a relevant distinction. 

Heh. I feel the same, and I also make the same recognition that other players feel differently.

 

I also take a different attitude to the Gaussian's %Build Up proc. I prefer to put it under my control in a Build Up power. If you are going to be on larger teams, especially with henchmen/pets, it is better in an aura power... but only if you are buffing the team. VEATs are intended to play this way, so as long as you always play this way, this will help you more. The Guassian's proc is essentially a "selfish" boost, in that in only works for you, so for my team I would prefer to boost the aura power itself via alternate slotting.

 

VEATs will run VERY hot and burn Endurance like crazy. My experience has been that VEATs are one of the AT that I have to make hard choices regarding Endurance choices, more so than other AT.