Dark/TW

[BrandX]

Was looking at a Dark/TW for concept, and I got to wondering, for the Single Target damage, should I be taking Gloom?  That's the epic that fits the concept, but would Gloom with TW ruin the ST DPS?

 

How is TW on Tankers?

 

Don't want to go Brute on this concept, because I'm happy with my Brute.  Dark Armor on Scrappers has no taunt aura and I'm feeling like I want a taunt aura with TW.

 

 

[thorasaurus]

if TW is like Staff, and iirc it is on this one aspect, you have to redraw your sword after using any attack that isnt TW. So gloom breaks momentum and forces a redraw. FWIW Your dark armor heal should NOT do this with TW if you spam a TW attack during the animation, since i am able to redraw staff mid-heal (DA/staff)

 

i personally don't like TW on tank because i need to manuver mobs facing away from my team to avoid cones/aoe from hitting my team. I also have a bigger cap of targets i can hit and most of my sets have expanded arcs. so all the goodies TW naturally gets, every other set gets too, but without the drawbacks that TW has  (momentum mechanics).

[BrandX]

2 hours ago, thorasaurus said:

if TW is like Staff, and iirc it is on this one aspect, you have to redraw your sword after using any attack that isnt TW. So gloom breaks momentum and forces a redraw. FWIW Your dark armor heal should NOT do this with TW if you spam a TW attack during the animation, since i am able to redraw staff mid-heal (DA/staff)

 

i personally don't like TW on tank because i need to manuver mobs facing away from my team to avoid cones/aoe from hitting my team. I also have a bigger cap of targets i can hit and most of my sets have expanded arcs. so all the goodies TW naturally gets, every other set gets too, but without the drawbacks that TW has  (momentum mechanics).

 

But they lack the cool titan weapon looks 🙂

 

However, thanks for the info.  Sounds like Gloom is not the way to go.  Maybe Ice for the Hold (which I like to have for Hami/LGTF) is the way to go.

[Sancerre]

titan weapons is fine set but the tanker AoE arc/radius benefits were specifically _NOT_ alloted towards titan weapons... i left the link at the bottom of the post for your reference... making it slightly less desirable for Tankers specifically compared to Brute/Scrapper.

 

As for TW itself -- The single target damage is still solid, the momentum is far less annoying than it used to be, and the endurance use feels more manageable, but the damage output is definitely lower than it used to be.

 

as far as gloom is concerned, it doesnt really 'ruin' anything but i would say it is not really 'necessary' for titan weapons because it already has great single target options.  gloom would probably be used in an 'optimal' single target DPS chain, where you use gloom as momentum is expiring.  to be clear on that... they 'fixed' the redraw with most abilities.  things like recasting auto-hasten would be a royal pain before.  i dont personally use the soul pool but fireball for example doesnt have any glaring conflicts.  that said you probably still wouldnt want to 'waste' your momentum time casting gloom if you can avoid it.

 

dont let any of the comments scare you though.  TW is still a great set, just no longer the 'king'.

 

 

[BrandX]

Here's what I have so far, if any have an idea how to go farther with it 🙂  Hover/Teleport is just part of the concept

 

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[thorasaurus]

21 hours ago, BrandX said:

 

But they lack the cool titan weapon looks 🙂

 

However, thanks for the info.  Sounds like Gloom is not the way to go.  Maybe Ice for the Hold (which I like to have for Hami/LGTF) is the way to go.

YES I wish I had the cool Titan weapon looks available. we need more of them for sure! I am super interested if you can get this to work!

[thorasaurus]

20 hours ago, Sancerre said:

titan weapons is fine set but the tanker AoE arc/radius benefits were specifically _NOT_ alloted towards titan weapons... i left the link at the bottom of the post for your reference... making it slightly less desirable for Tankers specifically compared to Brute/Scrapper.

 

As for TW itself -- The single target damage is still solid, the momentum is far less annoying than it used to be, and the endurance use feels more manageable, but the damage output is definitely lower than it used to be.

 

as far as gloom is concerned, it doesnt really 'ruin' anything but i would say it is not really 'necessary' for titan weapons because it already has great single target options.  gloom would probably be used in an 'optimal' single target DPS chain, where you use gloom as momentum is expiring.  to be clear on that... they 'fixed' the redraw with most abilities.  things like recasting auto-hasten would be a royal pain before.  i dont personally use the soul pool but fireball for example doesnt have any glaring conflicts.  that said you probably still wouldnt want to 'waste' your momentum time casting gloom if you can avoid it.

 

dont let any of the comments scare you though.  TW is still a great set, just no longer the 'king'.

 

 

They must have missed poor staff in the redraw pass. It has no redraw option 😞

[BrandX]

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Updated build.  So far so good at level 32.